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Not worth 11M trading MitchFlyers

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Date de création initiale: 23 août 2019
Publié: 23 août 2019
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I know it would be real hard to trade him unsigned but whatever. Flyer fans, fair trade?
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 8
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Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 13
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Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


The difference between konekney and Marner is not a top 6 defenseman.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 13
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Quoting: csick
Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


Or TMLSage claiming he's a generational player and then suggesting he'd sign a 3 year bridge deal for $8m or so because that's exactly what Crosby, Ovechkin, and McDavid did.
23 août 2019 à 14 h 14
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Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


Logan is easily the biggest clown on this site
23 août 2019 à 14 h 20
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Logan is easily the biggest clown on this site


I am offended you didn't say I was. frown

Mission failed; We'll get em next time.
23 août 2019 à 14 h 20
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Logan is easily the biggest clown on this site


Hard yes.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 25
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Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


He is the most overrated player in the league right now ... there are so many players making between 4-7M that id rather have over him right now.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: SpaghettiPasta
The difference between konekney and Marner is not a top 6 defenseman.


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23 août 2019 à 14 h 28
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He is the most overrated player in the league right now ... there are so many players making between 4-7M that id rather have over him right now.


You're saying that, but how many of those players were signed recently?
I'll throw Gallagher's name out there as an example (although I'd take Mitch over him), but his contract is nearly done and signed awhile ago. Gally at 3.~ is highway robbery, but it is difficult to compare that contract to whatever Marner will sign.

A more fair comparison for your argument might be Draisaitl at 8.5aav for example.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 28
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Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


Listen.. Id pay him 10 and even more if the term is good, without a problem.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 48
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Listen.. Id pay him 10 and even more if the term is good, without a problem.


Exactly. 10m is fine, on a 3 year deal is ridiculous.
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23 août 2019 à 14 h 56
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He is the most overrated player in the league right now ... there are so many players making between 4-7M that id rather have over him right now.


im just curious.. what players would u choose over him?
23 août 2019 à 15 h 5
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If Marner isn't worth 11m to the Leafs, why would he be worth 11m to the Flyers? There is this illusion on this site that Leafs offer to Marner is substantially less than what other teams are willing to pay him.
Marner can sign with any team.... The trade. Like Konecky but the Leaf would need a Dman that is truly NHL ready and good. I'd say Sanheim not Myers than it could be a deal, which the Flyers don't probably do unless they Marner signs at about 10m.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 12
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Logan is easily the biggest clown on this site


The bitterness is strong with this one. Lol throwing chirps from afar.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 13
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
The bitterness is strong with this one. Lol throwing chirps from afar.


remember when i said you developed a reputation?
23 août 2019 à 15 h 14
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Quoting: csick
Here comes Sammy and Logan with the not enough for Marner yet they dont want to pay him more than 10. So, which is it?


I don't mind it at all. But I am also very high on Myers. I think he's going to be a terrific player very soon. I felt he was the best at the WJ in his last go around there. I think something else would need to happen to balance the contracts but I've said in the past, for a trade with Philly Myers is my target.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 19
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remember when i said you developed a reputation?


Cool a bunch of uber fans of different teams don't like me because I don't want to give away top end players for very little because it would be convenient for the team you are a fan of. I couldn't possibly tell you how much this bothers me.......because I don't care at all.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 21
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Hard yes.


Bunch of bitterness on here today, how dare people use logic and reason in arguments!
23 août 2019 à 15 h 22
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I am offended you didn't say I was. frown

Mission failed; We'll get em next time.


All you have to do is, call this guy on his nonsense and then don't back down when he gets all whiny and starts lobbing insults. He doesn't like having his nonsense pointed out.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 24
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He is the most overrated player in the league right now ... there are so many players making between 4-7M that id rather have over him right now.


First half I'd say is BS. The second half of your statement I'd agree with but in all of those cases its due to players having very undervalued contracts. For instance, who wouldn't rather have McKinnon at his contract over Marner? But since we can't just change rosters as we can on video games, you have to deal with the business side of things. In this case, I've been firm that Ferris is a clown and has over reached in a big way. Now speculation and fan angst has blown all of this way out of proportion and a circus has ensued.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 26
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Quoting: palhal
If Marner isn't worth 11m to the Leafs, why would he be worth 11m to the Flyers? There is this illusion on this site that Leafs offer to Marner is substantially less than what other teams are willing to pay him.
Marner can sign with any team.... The trade. Like Konecky but the Leaf would need a Dman that is truly NHL ready and good. I'd say Sanheim not Myers than it could be a deal, which the Flyers don't probably do unless they Marner signs at about 10m.


There is also this illusion in your head that because Toronto doesn't want to go over 10.5 that atomically means other teams aren't willing to go over it. I'm pretty sure Panarin signed for 11.5M.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 32
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First half I'd say is BS. The second half of your statement I'd agree with but in all of those cases its due to players having very undervalued contracts. For instance, who wouldn't rather have McKinnon at his contract over Marner? But since we can't just change rosters as we can on video games, you have to deal with the business side of things. In this case, I've been firm that Ferris is a clown and has over reached in a big way. Now speculation and fan angst has blown all of this way out of proportion and a circus has ensued.


The first half is 100% accurate. This kid put up 2 60pts seasons before this and now we're suppose to hand him over a top end contract because JT made him look good for a year .... gtfo
23 août 2019 à 15 h 39
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Quoting: JoeForts
The first half is 100% accurate. This kid put up 2 60pts seasons before this and now we're suppose to hand him over a top end contract because JT made him look good for a year .... gtfo


Okay pump the brakes a little here boss.

1) Yes Tavares obviously helped Marner to a career year
2) Marner also helped Tavares to a career year
3) Young players are going to get paid if they are top contributors. Its just the way the market is moving.
4) I agree Marner shouldn't get 11 million, I am hoping for a 6 year deal around 9.5 million
5) Everyone on here either doesn't know or doesn't remember that the year before last Marner played at an above a point a game pace for the second half of the season once he was put on Kadri's line with Marleau.

Marner isn't overrated, his agent is a clown who is overreaching and this whole thing is getting way too much attention.
23 août 2019 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: JoeForts
The first half is 100% accurate. This kid put up 2 60pts seasons before this and now we're suppose to hand him over a top end contract because JT made him look good for a year .... gtfo


I just read something on another thread where Friedman reported that Mitch has said no to an 11M/8yr offer from the leafs. Who knows if that's true.. but if it is? Lol. Fire him and his ego into the sun and make a trade.. or sit him for the year and revisit this next year when he comes back to earth.

Marners only way out is to sign an OS and the leafs let him go for 4 firsts, or they match and get him for under 10.55M... neither of which are coming. Either way, I don't see the leafs losing this one. I imagine they'll take the kid gloves off soon, regardless of how sensitive his camp can get about things.. and if he's still sitting g on his high horse then he'll get traded.
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23 août 2019 à 17 h 18
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I just read something on another thread where Friedman reported that Mitch has said no to an 11M/8yr offer from the leafs. Who knows if that's true.. but if it is? Lol.


That's insane if true.
 
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