Poehling is a legit middle-six C (potential), Romanov top6 if not top4 and a 1st that will be 7-15

Don't think MTL accepts but okay


Steal for CAR (Yamamoto)

You can't be serious with that Montreal trade proposal? What exactly is Edmonton giving up to get that haul?

Yes, I'm serious, the Canadiens get a guy who would be their #1 LD and a winger who might have a bigger upside than Lehkonen. Meanwhile, their roster for the expansion draft is settled.

Might be, but given my assumption of moving Klefbom, Edmonton has to guard against the possibility of Nurse giving trouble at re-signing time.

What do you expect as a return for that?

Klefbom is worthless to some apparently.. Lol

Montreal easily says no. Klefbom hasnt played a full season in the past two years and although played well in those games still foesnt have the value of two top tier prospects, let alone draft picks and I wouldn't trade Puljarjuvi for Lehkonen straight up right now.

Romanov is our futur 1LHD and Poehling is a top prospect as well... WPG didn’t even get a piece that great for Trouba whos a way better dmen than klefbom.... Keep dreaming

Break the parts down in that trade:

Lehkonen > Puli
Montreal 1rst >>> Edmonton 3rd

That means Klefbom must be much, much better than the combination of Poehling, Romanov, and a 4th round pick. Montreal would not even think of trading those 3 assets for for Klefborm alone. So if you look at each of those 3 trades, Edmonton wins each one. Combine the 3 together, and it is a landslide. Not saying Klefborm is worthless by any means, but neither is he a top 2D. Just because he may be the best LD on Montreal, doesn't mean he is worth the package I outlined above.

Trouba didn't have four years of term remaining, not a fair comparison at all.

Just 'cause Poehling got a hat trick in his first game every habs fan thinks his value = McDavid

Montréal won’t do that trade since romanov is their best prospect on the blue line and poehling have lived to the expectations that Montreal have when they drafted him! Player like those 2 are way to valuable to trade for a top 4 defenseman. Its not like montreal was a real cup contender, they are more in a rebuit process so its make no sense to move those piece that will be their core in a year or two. A trade could work but i think montreal would be willing too move prospect like ikonen, juulsen, ylonen, even mete but caufield, suzuki, poehling, kotkaniemi, primeau, brook and romanov wont be traded at any purpose. Unless you bring back a young gun like warenski, boeser, Tkachuk, ...
klefbom is a good player but we’re not talking about a allstar

Value wise Puljujarvi isn't that much different than McCarron. OK he more value. But geez he can't seem find roster spot for poor Oilers. Teams aren't trading much for him.

The reason of the poor return for
Trouba was the mishandling by chevaldeyoff. He should have trade him last year to bring a greater return, everybody in the league know he wanted out of Winnipeg.
That said you’re looking at major blockbuster trade, a return like edmonton would get would land a all star player to montreal. You look a comparable nick bujstad add year left at around the same amount that klefbom both where around same age. Klefbom have more utilities than bujstad both he isn’t a all star defender so since Pittsburgh gave sheahan, brassard a 2nd and a 2 4th the return would be something like that with a little bit more

His value is a solid two way center that can skate. Is he more a amazing 3rd center or a good 2nd I guess time Will tell. Saying "every habs fan thinks his value = McDavid" his almost as stupid as thinking Poehling's value = McDavid. Does his value his MAYBE higher than it should be ? MAYBE but that doesnt mean his "real value" is garbage.

That a stupid response no one add said he was the next wayne gretzky! But yes he add value since he is a 1 st round pick two year ago and have progress well. He was named best forward at the junior, play a very good way game with older player in ncaa.

I agree Chevy mishandled the situation but the mishandling of it was waiting till Trouba was a year from being a UFA, had he traded him earlier when he was still under team control for a few years the return would've been better, it was a lack of term that lowered his value. Even though teams knew Trouba wanted out of Winnipeg if he had two, three or four years of RFA control the return would've been much better.

Regardless of that comparing what Trouba got in a trade when he had one year before becoming a UFA to a potential Klefbom trade who has 4 years remaining at $4.17M is ridiculous, it's a totally different scenario.

Yeah and since is value is so low i think they will stick with him. He might return to play finland this year and bring is confidence back! He still have a lot of potential

I edited my last post, the comparable would be nick bgujstad! Not the same position but still there a few comparable to start with

I personally wouldn't take that EDM offer AT ALL. Simply too much to pay for a good but not great Klefbom.

I think the value is fairly steep for MTL, Poehling, Romanov + a 1st for Klefbom, sure he has a sweetheart contract but thats rich. It is an original idea, I will give you props for that. Just think MTL is giving up one asset too many

The sad thing is klefboms contract probably makes him the keeper and Holland trades Nurse into other assets.

You aren't lining up the pieces properly. The Edmonton third is a promotion of the Montreal fourth. I'm assuming that Montreal would be willing to trade Lehkonen's current value for Puljujarvi's future upside -- admittedly a dangerous risk. I think that's balanced out by the draft advance, but I could be biased. So we are left with Klefbom for Poehling, Romanov and a first. I think that compares to Muzzin for Grundstrom, Durzi and a first. Montreal is more in need of a top 4 LhD than most teams, and Klefbom could make the difference between making the playoffs and not. Still, I completely understand Montreal fans declining this trade.

I would certainly accept substituting Ikonen or Ylonen for Romanov, but you must remember that there is appreciable risk in assuming a Russian prospect will come over here.

Yes, that's precisely why he's here instead of Nurse, even though Nurse is RFA next year and not UFA.