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7 août 2019 à 11 h 19
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No it isn't. The problem is Ferris and the TO fan base thinking with emotions and no logic.
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 20
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 22
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funny, i laugh
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 25
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you trade auston matthews, and do zero to address the back end?
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
No it isn't. The problem is Ferris and the TO fan base thinking with emotions and no logic.


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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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funny, i laugh


Quoting: Bcarlo25
you trade auston matthews, and do zero to address the back end?


The issue is Leaf fans thinking Nylander is better than Marner.
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 35
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
The issue is Leaf fans thinking Nylander is better than Marner.


No Leafs fan thinks that.. there are differences in degrees of how much difference is between them (which is not issue).. issue is that he is being portrayed as the best winger in the entire universe by everybody and he isnt.
7 août 2019 à 11 h 50
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Quoting: SammyT_51
No Leafs fan thinks that.. there are differences in degrees of how much difference is between them (which is not issue).. issue is that he is being portrayed as the best winger in the entire universe by everybody and he isnt.


whose saying hes the best winger in the game doe?
7 août 2019 à 11 h 53
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Quoting: CBJ4CUP
whose saying hes the best winger in the game doe?


Ive seen many!!
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7 août 2019 à 11 h 57
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Quoting: SammyT_51
No Leafs fan thinks that.. there are differences in degrees of how much difference is between them (which is not issue).. issue is that he is being portrayed as the best winger in the entire universe by everybody and he isnt.


No one says Marner is the best winger in the world, not even close. What I see all the time is claims that Nylander is better than Marner because he has better possession metrics, and that Nylander would score 100 points if he played with Tavares. Now Nylander put up 61 points playing alongside Matthews, a centre who is not much worse than Tavares, plus he was playing on the top powerplay unit, yet the expectation is he can almost double that? At least Marner was a 70 point player who scored at a point per game pace during the second half of 2017-18 season with Kadri, so it should be no surprise that he put up over a points per game playing with the much more talented Tavares. The doubt over Marner’s ability is bewildering, he is more than just a passenger. Honestly Marner’s skill and talent level is closer to Tavares and Matthews than it is to Nylander.
7 août 2019 à 11 h 58
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The problem is the Matthews Contract is way overpriced, and that's why people think that Marner is a 8 figure player, because they lot them in the same category, and because its Toronto....

Matthews - 11'634'000 / 73 points last season = $159000 per point (way overpaid) ($132'000 per goal if you say he plays a full season at the same scoring pace)
Tavares - 11'000'000 / 88 points last season = $125000 per point (overpaid? as toronto likes to do)
Mcdavid - 12'500'000 /116 points last season = $107000 per point
Ovechkin - 9'538'462 / 89 points last season = $107000 per point
Kane - 10'500'000 / 110 points last season = $95000 per point
Crosby - 8'700'000 / 100 points last season = $87'000 per point (older contract)
Draisaitl - 8'500'000 / 105 points last season = $81000 per point (bargin)
Kucherov - 9'500'000 / 128 points last season = $74218 per point (wayyy bargin)
Gaudreau - 6'750'000 / 99 points last season = $68'000 per point (older contract)

Is it fair to say $100'000 per point is on pace for what most of these players are worth at the moment?

Marner - 9'200'000? / 92 points last season = $100'000 per point?
Tkachuk - 7'700'000? / 77 points last season = $100'000 per point?

i didnt even include some serious bargin players in there that throw the current metric out the window ( Marchand, Mackinnon, Stamkos, Barkov)

Toronto is Out to lunch if they are thinking they can have 3 players making over 8 figures.
7 août 2019 à 12 h 2
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
The issue is Leaf fans thinking Nylander is better than Marner.


There’s not a single leafs fan who thinks Nylander Is better than Marner
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7 août 2019 à 12 h 3
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If you really do think that the problem is Matthews, than you in fact, are the problem. Matthews is as far from the problem as the "problem" is. I find it laughable that you trade one of the best young centres in the game and the Leafs D Core looks exactly the same as it did with Matthews on the team. It is that kind of shortsighted thinking that gives rise to Bi-Polar tags that LeafsNation gets pegged with.
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7 août 2019 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: Jungo
The problem is the Matthews Contract is way overpriced, and that's why people think that Marner is a 8 figure player, because they lot them in the same category, and because its Toronto....

Matthews - 11'634'000 / 73 points last season = $159000 per point (way overpaid) ($132'000 per goal if you say he plays a full season at the same scoring pace)
Tavares - 11'000'000 / 88 points last season = $125000 per point (overpaid? as toronto likes to do)
Mcdavid - 12'500'000 /116 points last season = $107000 per point
Ovechkin - 9'538'462 / 89 points last season = $107000 per point
Kane - 10'500'000 / 110 points last season = $95000 per point
Crosby - 8'700'000 / 100 points last season = $87'000 per point (older contract)
Draisaitl - 8'500'000 / 105 points last season = $81000 per point (bargin)
Kucherov - 9'500'000 / 128 points last season = $74218 per point (wayyy bargin)
Gaudreau - 6'750'000 / 99 points last season = $68'000 per point (older contract)

Is it fair to say $100'000 per point is on pace for what most of these players are worth at the moment?

Marner - 9'200'000? / 92 points last season = $100'000 per point?
Tkachuk - 7'700'000? / 77 points last season = $100'000 per point?

i didnt even include some serious bargin players in there that throw the current metric out the window ( Marchand, Mackinnon, Stamkos, Barkov)

Toronto is Out to lunch if they are thinking they can have 3 players making over 8 figures.


Yes it was overpaid but they’ll make it work
7 août 2019 à 12 h 3
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Quoting: PJosephM13
There’s not a single leafs fan who thinks Nylander Is better than Marner


Really? What about Rahef Issa?
7 août 2019 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: PJosephM13
There’s not a single leafs fan who thinks Nylander Is better than Marner

It’s just we don’t think marner is that much ahead as every other fan base thinks because of last year
7 août 2019 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: BrandonDubinskyGOAT
The issue is Leaf fans thinking Nylander is better than Marner.


there's only one poster on here that thinks that. he ate too many paint chips as a child.
 
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