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The way theyll actually start

Créé par: Snipshow4416
Date de création initiale: aoû 1, 2019
Publié: 1 aoû 2019 à 8 h 37
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
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I figure Harpur will get a chance cause babs loves big guys and Wilson will be a piece on the 4th because babs loves this players again lol and spezza and shore can be switched depending on who’s winning draws on a certain night
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  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
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VGK
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CAR
COL
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TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
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Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Mikheyev, Ilya
925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
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Petan, Nicolas
775 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
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Kerfoot, Alexander
3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 4
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Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
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Wilson, Garrett
725 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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Shore, Nick
750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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Spezza, Jason
700 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 1
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Agostino, Kenny
737 500 $
AG
UFA - 2
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
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Ceci, Cody
4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
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Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Barrie, Tyson
2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Hutchinson, Michael
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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Harpur, Ben
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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Schmaltz, Jordan
700 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Holl, Justin
675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Clarkson, David
5 250 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
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Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1

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1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 19
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Quoting: Goulet
This could be the year of growth for Babcock. It depends on how much he values employment.


Babcock and "coaching growth", seems to be a huge contradiction. IMO Babcock enjoys being an NHL coach, so he values his employment. Just don't think he is that good at his job. He's replaced next May.
1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 20
#27
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Quoting: palhal
You're right. These guys are still living the dream. 650K whether as a Leaf, a press box Leaf or a Marlie....it's a great life for an athlete. It's going to end sometime....enjoy it as long as it goes.

I remember listening to ex Blue Jay Rick Bosetti. He was an original Blue Jay...a centre fielder, really a fringe MLBer. A few years later he was traded to the Cubs. Shortly after he waived and asked to report to the minors. He salary was going from 150,000 at MLB to 80,000 at AAA. He was upset at the pay cut and thinking he was going to buried forever. So without a plan, he quit baseball. Remember this about 1981. During the interview he said " "How foolish that was quitting baseball. Do you know how difficult for a person to make 80,000 a a year in the real world."


This is the truthiest post I've read in a long time. And it's why I get a little annoyed with the narrative that athletes are being disrespected with certain contract offers.

When some of these nhlers are likely to take down 100M during their careers and yet they "feel" slighted I can only chuckle at the ego that must be involved with players, agents and the rest of the vultures that circle the golden goose.
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1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 40
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With the Leafs currently being at 48 player contracts, and Marner still left to sign and Neuvrith coming in on a PTO, as well as others, I think the Leafs are still going to make some moves before the season starts.
1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 42
#29
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Quoting: gregb567
this thread is why no one likes leafs fans


Without Leaf fans or Leaf Haters to criticize Leaf fans, the 1,000,000 posts on CapFriendly would dwindle to 100,000. Not financial affordable for the owners of CapFriendly. Long live 1967applaud

PS. This thread is just fine....lots of other thread that cause more Leaf distain. How many pages did the Borgman.Schmaltz trade get. Way too many.
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1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: palhal
Without Leaf fans or Leaf Haters to criticize Leaf fans, the 1,000,000 posts on CapFriendly would dwindle to 100,000. Not financial affordable for the owners of CapFriendly. Long live 1967applaud

PS. This thread is just fine....lots of other thread that cause more Leaf distain. How many pages did the Borgman.Schmaltz trade get. Way too many.


Lol. Also true.
1 aoû 2019 à 9 h 58
#31
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Quoting: MG1986
With the Leafs currently being at 48 player contracts, and Marner still left to sign and Neuvrith coming in on a PTO, as well as others, I think the Leafs are still going to make some moves before the season starts.


I hope so I really do cause this lineup isn’t beating Boston
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 01
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
I hope so I really do cause this lineup isn’t beating Boston


I know they are still looking at making a trade for a defender.
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 05
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
I'd put money on Babs going with Marincin. He loves that kid on the PK despite him making the dumbest decisions at least once a game.


This

Quoting: Jamiepo
Mikheyev will be in on lw with Johnsson and more I believe. Babs and dubas have pretty much confirmed that. Also spezza will be 3/4c depending on whether kerfoot plays the wing. Would imagine they start kerfoot at 3c out of camp.


I truly hope Mikheyev will only patch till Hyman comes back and after he should be put low. Next year Cap situation will be no better then this years, cca14M to sign three Ds ( dependable of Marner AAV ) and i dont think they should be so dumb again to repeat Johnsson and Kapanen "mistake", cause if Mikheyev will start to mass points leetching on Matthews - Nylander line, he'll be 40 Pointer in his "rookie" season and will be gone next Off-season cause unaffordable. Keep kid in fourth line, extend him for 2 x 850k and play him big later, inbetween play Moore in mentioned line who will be 40 Pointer at 775K.
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
I hope so I really do cause this lineup isn’t beating Boston


My try

Hyman - Tavares - Marner............Mikheyev till Hyman comes back
Moore - Matthews - Nylander.......pumping Moore to be 40 Points for two years, trade him at TDL 2021 ( Mikheyev, Marchment, Engvall incoming for Hyman style LW )
Johnsson - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Åberg- Shore - Spezza

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Marincin - Schmaltz...........till Dermott comes back, then Marincin and Dermott

Press : Mikheyev / Petan and Holl / Schmaltz
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 11
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Quoting: MG1986
I know they are still looking at making a trade for a defender.


Who said that
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Laudan
This



I sincerely hope Mikheyev will only patch till Hyman comes back and after he should be put low. Next year Cap situation will be no better then this years, cca14M to sign three Ds ( dependable of Marner AAV ) and i dont think they should be so dumb again to repeat Johnsson and Kapanen "mistake", cause if Mikheyev will start to mass points leetching on Matthews - Nylander line, he'll be 40 Pointer in his "rookie" season and will be gone next Off-season cause unaffordable. Keep kid in fourth line, extend him for 2 x 850k and play him big later, inbetween play Moore in mentioned line who will be 40 Pointer at 775K.


I doubt they really approach line up decisions that way though. I'm sure that every effort is made to ice the best team/lines for success, even if I disagree with alot of those decisions.

I hope Mikheyev knocks it outta the park. And if he does then pay the man and make changes where needed. If he doesn't, then I hope Moore knocks it outta the park, and if he does then pay that man when the time comes. And if not him, then Marchment, or Bracco or anyone else that can make things happen.

1967 was a long, long time ago
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Who said that


I have no idea who else has said that, but I know the team is looking.
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: blowing_the_zone
I doubt they really approach line up decisions that way though. I'm sure that every effort is made to ice the best team/lines for success, even if I disagree with alot of those decisions.

I hope Mikheyev knocks it outta the park. And if he does then pay the man and make changes where needed. If he doesn't, then I hope Moore knocks it outta the park, and if he does then pay that man when the time comes. And if not him, then Marchment, or Bracco or anyone else that can make things happen.

1967 was a long, long time ago


The problem that i see noone here and in coach staff thinks strategically. The times when TML didnt need to care about $$ are over....kids are croping Premium Contracts now and maneuvers like that aka moneyballing are obligated form of planning the future. Ask VGK and how Gusev playing for them turned out....
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: Laudan
My try

Hyman - Tavares - Marner............Mikheyev till Hyman comes back
Moore - Matthews - Nylander.......pumping Moore to be 40 Points for two years, trade him at TDL 2021 ( Mikheyev, Marchment, Engvall incoming for Hyman checker style LW )
Johnsson - Kerfoot - Kapanen
Åberg- Shore - Spezza

Rielly - Ceci
Muzzin - Barrie
Marincin - Schmaltz...........till Dermott comes back, then Marincin and Dermott

Press : Mikheyev / Petan and Holl / Schmaltz

I’d be worried with aberg on 4th
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 40
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Quoting: Laudan
The problem that i see noone here and in coach staff thinks strategically. The times when TML didnt need to care about $$ are over....kids are croping Premium Contracts now and maneuvers like that aka moneyballing are obligated form of planning the future. Ask VGK and how Gusev playing for them turned out....


I agree with you to some extent. I think we would move on from Hyman and keep mikheyev. I think the depth on lw will have to be Hyman,Johnsson,mikheyev and Moore. I think if mikheyev proves nhl good and should be moved up the lineup you sign him in season to a 2-3 year deal before he gets any big numbers. Even if he does get a Johnsson type deal and you move in from Hyman it still fits next year.
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 42
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Quoting: Laudan
The problem that i see noone here and in coach staff thinks strategically. The times when TML didnt need to care about $$ are over....kids are croping Premium Contracts now and maneuvers like that aka moneyballing are obligated form of planning the future. Ask VGK and how Gusev playing for them turned out....


I don't know. For the first time in my life it seems like the leafs have a front office that is thinking, and acting, strategically. That's really the function of the GM and his staff.

I think we open alot of doors to trouble if we're asking the coaching staff to do that. The only strategic thinking they should be doing is about how they win hockey games, with a bit of leeway built in around how to best develop individual players overtime.. and on that, I actually think Babcock is doing a decent job I.e. Mo, Hyman, Johnson, Kap, Dert, even Mitch.

But if we're asking leaf fans to think and act strategically then we're definately in for a world of hurt... our job is to be emotional wink
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I agree with you to some extent. I think we would move on from Hyman and keep mikheyev. I think the depth on lw will have to be Hyman,Johnsson,mikheyev and Moore. I think if mikheyev proves nhl good and should be moved up the lineup you sign him in season to a 2-3 year deal before he gets any big numbers. Even if he does get a Johnsson type deal and you move in from Hyman it still fits next year.


Exactly what im talking about, you dont want to sign another Zaitsev contract after one-year wonder or loose the kid cause unable to sign him.

I have both Hyman ( Expansion Draft and to expensive after 4 x 40 points ) and Moore ( TDL and height as his handicap for "checking guy" ) gone, Mihkeyev, Engvall, Johnsson and Marchment being the LWs playing Hymans role. and speedy RWs with Marner, Nylander, Kapanen and Bracco.

Everything is set in front, time to take care about D now....
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 44
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Quoting: Laudan
This



I truly hope Mikheyev will only patch till Hyman comes back and after he should be put low. Next year Cap situation will be no better then this years, cca14M to sign three Ds ( dependable of Marner AAV ) and i dont think they should be so dumb again to repeat Johnsson and Kapanen "mistake", cause if Mikheyev will start to mass points leetching on Matthews - Nylander line, he'll be 40 Pointer in his "rookie" season and will be gone next Off-season cause unaffordable. Keep kid in fourth line, extend him for 2 x 850k and play him big later, inbetween play Moore in mentioned line who will be 40 Pointer at 775K.


Deliberately suppressing a players success to get a deal on him, is really short sighted and all around poor asset management. If Mikheyev does well, GREAT! And if that means he'll want more next year, and he doesn't fit, trade him for good assets. If he's better than Kap or Johnsson, move one of those guys. Have many high priced assets is never a problem. They can be moved to fill holes elsewhere. Having holes and no cap space to fill those holes and bad contracts on top of all that is what cap hell is.
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 50
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Quoting: gregb567
this thread is why no one likes leafs fans


This literally is a thread of Leaf fans having a casual conversation without anything ridiculous being stated at all. Why on earth does this cause anyone anywhere grief enough to not like someone?
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 52
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Quoting: habs_fan123
thats because they are agestino is a meh 4th liner honestly without marner the bottom 6 is REALLY weak


Really weak? Kerfoot, Kapanen and possibly Johnsson for a 3rd line is far from weak. I love how Hab fans jump on these threads throwing shade while having a worse team. Shouldn't you wait to see if your team makes the playoffs before talking trash?
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1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 55
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
This literally is a thread of Leaf fans having a casual conversation without anything ridiculous being stated at all. Why on earth does this cause anyone anywhere grief enough to not like someone?


because you've posted almost 8000 times on this website in just over a year, relax bro, get a life outside the internet
1 aoû 2019 à 10 h 59
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
This literally is a thread of Leaf fans having a casual conversation without anything ridiculous being stated at all. Why on earth does this cause anyone anywhere grief enough to not like someone?


Quoting: LoganOllivier
This literally is a thread of Leaf fans having a casual conversation without anything ridiculous being stated at all. Why on earth does this cause anyone anywhere grief enough to not like someone?


Because we exist. And in numbers...

Think the man was just having a bit of fun with his comment
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1 aoû 2019 à 11 h 01
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Quoting: gregb567
because you've posted almost 800 times on this website in just over a year, relax bro, get a life outside the internet


Just because we have normal conversations about hockey doesn’t mean people should hate us. If u don’t like it don’t click on leafs threads plain and simple
1 aoû 2019 à 11 h 02
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Quoting: Snipshow4416
Just because we have normal conversations about hockey doesn’t mean people should hate us. If u don’t like it don’t click on leafs threads plain and simple


"normal"
1 aoû 2019 à 11 h 03
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Quoting: gregb567
"normal"


What about this isn’t normal we’re talking about hockey
 
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