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WPG trade

Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Date de création initiale: jui 24, 2019
Publié: 26 jui 2019 à 9 h 06
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
WPG gets to dump 2 salary, 2 2nd round pick, Tatar, Rielly, Thompson and a 4th

for Ehlers

WPG gets to sign Connor and Laine, and actually maintain a competitive team.

Let me know in the comment what you would change in that trade.


MTL can afford it.

Kulikov's cap will be off next year -liberates a lot of money to sign Domi and others to an extension. There will be 14M in cap space next year. Domi gets 7.5 - Mete and Juulsen get a bridge deal.

Two years later, Perreault is off the books at the same moment as the rest of the UFAs. Choices will be made
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MTL Lines.

1st :

Domi - RP - Gally : Poehling will center an offensive line made to drive Dman crazy. It will be an upgrade on the Tatar - danault- Gally line, but same dynamic.

2nd

Drouin - KK - Ehlers - the skill line, line with the most talent. expecting showmanship from this line. KK's passes will finally reach someone who can put it in.

3rd

Defensive role lines and grinders. Both Danault and Perreault are master of the faceoffs. They will pose a scoring threat, but will mostly prevent any offense from opposing first lines.

4th

3rd line lite
Transactions
MTL
    Any team -or Waivers
    DAL
    1. Weise, Dale
    2. Peca, Matthew
    MTL
    1. Ehlers, Nikolaj
    2. Perreault, Mathieu
    3. Kulikov, Dmitry
    Détails additionnels:
    7M in cap space - and a cheaper version of each player
    WPG
    1. Tatar, Tomas
    2. Reilly, Mike
    3. Thompson, Nate
    4. 2021 2e round pick (MTL)
    5. 2020 4e round pick (ANA)
    6. 2020 2e round pick (CHI)
    Rachats de contrats
    • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
    Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
    • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
    • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
    Enfoui
    • Karl Alzner: 3 550 000 $ (4 625 000 $)
    ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
    2020
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    SJS
    WPG
    MTL
    FLA
    MTL
    CHI
    2021
    MTL
    MTL
    CHI
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    2022
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    MTL
    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2381 500 000 $83 227 142 $0 $3 525 000 $-1 727 142 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    MTL
    Domi, Max
    3 150 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Poehling, Ryan
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Gallagher, Brendan
    3 750 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Drouin, Jonathan
    5 500 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
    925 000 $
    C, AG
    RFA - 2
    WPG
    Ehlers, Nikolaj
    6 000 000 $
    AD, AG
    UFA - 6
    WPG
    Perreault, Mathieu
    4 125 000 $
    AG, AD, C
    NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Danault, Phillip
    3 083 333 $
    C
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Armia, Joel
    2 600 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Lehkonen, Artturi
    2 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    RFA - 2
    MTL
    Weal, Jordan
    1 400 000 $
    C, AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Byron, Paul
    3 400 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    MTL
    Cousins, Nick
    1 000 000 $
    AG, C
    RFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    MTL
    Mete, Victor
    748 333 $
    DG/DD
    RFA - 1
    MTL
    Weber, Shea
    7 857 143 $
    DD
    UFA - 7
    MTL
    Price, Carey
    10 500 000 $
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 7
    MTL
    Chiarot, Ben
    3 500 000 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Petry, Jeff
    5 500 000 $
    DD
    NMC NTC
    UFA - 2
    MTL
    Kinkaid, Keith
    1 750 000 $
    G
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Kulak, Brett
    1 850 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 3
    MTL
    Juulsen, Noah
    863 333 $
    DD
    RFA - 1
    WPG
    Kulikov, Dmitry
    4 333 333 $
    DG
    NTC
    UFA - 1
    MTL
    Folin, Christian
    800 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1

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    26 jui 2019 à 9 h 40
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    I like the trade, maybe replace a 2nd by a anothe 4th because we are getting 2 cap dumps
    26 jui 2019 à 10 h 00
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    Quoting: beavereater
    I like the trade, maybe replace a 2nd by a anothe 4th because we are getting 2 cap dumps


    Also... Tatar has two year left while Ehler is signed to a 6M contract for the next 6 years and he is 23.
    26 jui 2019 à 10 h 56
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    No way Chevy uses Ehlers to facilitate cap dumps. While Tatar is a nice piece, Rielly and Thompson are not needed. Ehlers will be traded only if a top 4 RHD is coming back.
    26 jui 2019 à 11 h 55
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    Chevy tells Bergevin to pound salt! That’s really bad for Winnipeg.
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 14
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    Quoting: KPasty
    No way Chevy uses Ehlers to facilitate cap dumps. While Tatar is a nice piece, Rielly and Thompson are not needed. Ehlers will be traded only if a top 4 RHD is coming back.


    switch Tatar for Petry?
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 15
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    Quoting: jgimp69
    Chevy tells Bergevin to pound salt! That’s really bad for Winnipeg.


    not really - It's a down grade in term of roster player - but in term of cap space and picks, It's not a bad move.
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 23
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    switch Tatar for Petry?


    Young Top 4RHD
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 25
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    not really - It's a down grade in term of roster player - but in term of cap space and picks, It's not a bad move.


    Not a bad move for cap purposes, but having Ehlers who has 60-80 point capabilities on a $6M contract for the next 6 years is invaluable.
    I'd sooner trade Connor in terms of financials. But it would have to take a very good deal/package. Nothing close to what's been offered here.
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 37
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    Jet69
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    not really - It's a down grade in term of roster player - but in term of cap space and picks, It's not a bad move.


    No, it’s terrible! You don’t trade a 60pt player on a sweet deal with term to clear cap space. It’s a great deal for Montreal, not Peg!
    If we are talking cap space for Winnipeg how about giving up Suzuki and a first? Because that’s at a minimum of what it would take!
    26 jui 2019 à 13 h 59
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    Quoting: KPasty
    Young Top 4RHD


    Brooks or Juulsen?
    26 jui 2019 à 14 h 03
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    Quoting: jgimp69
    No, it’s terrible! You don’t trade a 60pt player on a sweet deal with term to clear cap space. It’s a great deal for Montreal, not Peg!
    If we are talking cap space for Winnipeg how about giving up Suzuki and a first? Because that’s at a minimum of what it would take!


    you don't drop cap with Ehlers... you drop 8M with Kulikov and Perreault.

    We trade Elhers (whose value is decreased by the accompanying cap dump) for Tatar + two 2nd pick + Rielly + Thompson. The last two players are to replace the bodies lost.

    Ehler is a 60 + pts player, Tatar is a 50+ pts player .

    But I understand your point about having him to a reasonable contract
    26 jui 2019 à 16 h 40
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    you don't drop cap with Ehlers... you drop 8M with Kulikov and Perreault.

    We trade Elhers (whose value is decreased by the accompanying cap dump) for Tatar + two 2nd pick + Rielly + Thompson. The last two players are to replace the bodies lost.

    Ehler is a 60 + pts player, Tatar is a 50+ pts player .

    But I understand your point about having him to a reasonable contract


    And you don’t depreciate Ehlers value by saddling him with those two. There are plenty of B prospects and picks that can accompany those two but not Ehlers. That was just a fancy way to try and get a top line winger on a great deal by not giving up anything of value.
    26 jui 2019 à 17 h 50
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    Quoting: jgimp69
    And you don’t depreciate Ehlers value by saddling him with those two. There are plenty of B prospects and picks that can accompany those two but not Ehlers. That was just a fancy way to try and get a top line winger on a great deal by not giving up anything of value.


    I would disagree about not sending anything of value - could the package be upgraded, yes, but does it have value, absolutely.
    26 jui 2019 à 18 h 12
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    Quoting: MTLaveragefan
    I would disagree about not sending anything of value - could the package be upgraded, yes, but does it have value, absolutely.


    Why don’t we just agree to disagree. I would hope to god Chevy never makes a trade like this!
    26 jui 2019 à 20 h 00
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    Quoting: jgimp69
    Why don’t we just agree to disagree. I would hope to god Chevy never makes a trade like this!


    I'm fine with that
     
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