Modifié 24 juill. 2019 à 20 h 17
Quoting: harrisonwright19
its exactly 50, marner is worth 10.5 if matthews is worth 11.6 IMO
No Marner is not. Matthews scored a ton those points with 3rd liners as wingmen, is a centre, and drives a line + a whole host of other reasons (like that goals are worth more).
If Nylander is worth 6.9, Marner is worth 8.75.
Matthews is in the McDavid conversation (just to be clear McDavid > Matthews all day long). Marner is not and it really isn't close. Here is Marner vs McDavid (edited by the creator to show McDavid's true value)
And again, 50 points over 3 seasons is 16.6 points per year. That is worth about 700k-1M going by other contracts. If Tkachuk is worth 8, Marner is worth 8.75 (which is correct. My grievance is those who will ignore all the evidence and say he is worth more while keeping Tkachuk at a fair price).
Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Guy who led his team in two of the last three seasons and nearly hit a hundred points last season is worth much more than the gritty guy who has been 3 and 4th respectively.
The only reason he ever lead the Leafs in points is that Matthews played with 3rd liners who couldn't produce in a pinch to save their life and his injuries and Marner was propped up by JT. Way to ignore all context to 'prove' a point. Matthews is the best 5v5 goal scorer in the league and drives a line while Marner does not.
As above, 3rd and 4th respectively is an average of 16.6 points behind playing with worse line mates. Even if we don't account for quality of teammates (the most important 'quality of' stat) 16-17 points is worth league minimum. So take Tkachuk and add 700k.
Hence Tkachuk being Marner -500k + 1 year in my first comment.