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Colorado Avalanche signed J.T. Compher (4 Years / $3,500,000 AAV)

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17 jui 2019 à 13 h 21
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J.T. Compher has signed a new contract with the Colorado Avalanche.
CONTRAT STANDARD
COMPARER CE CONTRAT
DURÉE: 4 ANS
STATUT À L’ÉCHÉANCE DU CONTRAT: UFA
CONTRAT SIGNÉ AVEC: Avalanche du ColoradoAvalanche du Colorado
VALEUR: 14 000 000 $
% DU C.H. : 4,29
DATE DE SIGNATURE: 17 juillet 2019
SOURCE: CapFriendly
SAISONCLAUSECAP HIT AAV BONIS DE PERF. BONIS DE SIGN. SALAIRE DE BASE SALAIRE TOTAL SALAIRE DES LIGUES MINEURES
2019-203 500 000 $3 500 000 $0 $0 $3 400 000 $3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
2020-213 500 000 $3 500 000 $0 $0 $2 600 000 $2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
2021-223 500 000 $3 500 000 $0 $0 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
2022-233 500 000 $3 500 000 $0 $0 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
TOTAL14 000 000 $14 000 000 $0 $0 $14 000 000 $14 000 000 $14 000 000 $
17 jui 2019 à 13 h 25
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Great middle 6 player. Fair deal.
17 jui 2019 à 13 h 37
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AwesomeMatthews
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Major over payment he's worth at the most 2.5 million
17 jui 2019 à 13 h 44
#4
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Doesn't look awesome considering its the exact same AAV & Term that Kerfoot got.
SevenLeg, The_Madhawk, weirfanno1 and 2 others a aimé ceci.
17 jui 2019 à 13 h 50
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Edmundson our Savior
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Could have been cheaper imo
17 jui 2019 à 13 h 54
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Might be a shade high on AAV. In year 3 and 4 this contract may be one of the best around if the cap jumps the way most pundits expect it to.
17 jui 2019 à 14 h 14
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J.L.
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Quoting: AwesomeMatthews
Major over payment he's worth at the most 2.5 million


Exactly same deal as Kerfoot did, so yes, an overpayment. Feels like they kept the wrong guy.
17 jui 2019 à 14 h 24
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Save us King Holland
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Risky
17 jui 2019 à 14 h 34
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BDAvs
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Good signing. Compher has a higher ceiling than Kerfoot. Also a more versatile player who can kill penalties. They kept the right guy.
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17 jui 2019 à 14 h 45
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Fair deal, plus, if JT keeps progressing, having him at 3.5 would be a steal.
17 jui 2019 à 15 h 02
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AwesomeMatthews
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Quoting: JonJon
Exactly same deal as Kerfoot did, so yes, an overpayment. Feels like they kept the wrong guy.


Compher is worse then Kerfoot
17 jui 2019 à 15 h 15
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Big overpayment. Had a fine year based on his points. But the advanced stats shows he has a really bad impact on both offense and defense. Was among the worst offensive players on the team in the last few years stat wise. Best case scenario he develops into a good player on the 3rd line. Worst case scenario you pay 4x3.5 for a 4rd line guy. Yikes
17 jui 2019 à 15 h 34
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I like JTC. He's young and he can score. But just b/c the AVS are flush w/ cap space doesn't mean they should be overpaying bottom six guys.
17 jui 2019 à 15 h 36
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Quoting: JonJon
Exactly same deal as Kerfoot did, so yes, an overpayment. Feels like they kept the wrong guy.


Is Kerfoot better than Compher?
17 jui 2019 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: BDAvs
Good signing. Compher has a higher ceiling than Kerfoot. Also a more versatile player who can kill penalties. They kept the right guy.


Why does he have a higher ceiling that Kerfoot?

They're the same age and Kerfoot has put up 10 more points per year since they started playing together?

Are you still basing your opinion on the fact the Compher was drafted higher than Kerfoot 6 years ago?
17 jui 2019 à 16 h 08
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this seems about right.
Seems guys in this middle 6, 15-20 goal range are getting a 3.25-3.5 million deal on a multi deal term is fairly common.
17 jui 2019 à 17 h 39
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BDAvs
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Quoting: drewjenks
Why does he have a higher ceiling that Kerfoot?

They're the same age and Kerfoot has put up 10 more points per year since they started playing together?

Are you still basing your opinion on the fact the Compher was drafted higher than Kerfoot 6 years ago?


I'm basing it off the fact that I watch a ton of Avs hockey. Look at their playoff production. Compher can grind, play all situations, and put up points on any line. They tried Kerfoot on the first line in the playoffs when Rantanen was out and he couldn't produce. Avs kept the right player.
17 jui 2019 à 18 h 16
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mackinnon goat
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Quoting: drewjenks
Why does he have a higher ceiling that Kerfoot?

They're the same age and Kerfoot has put up 10 more points per year since they started playing together?

Are you still basing your opinion on the fact the Compher was drafted higher than Kerfoot 6 years ago?


He missed some time and had a very close P/GP rate to Kerfoot while playing more defensive minutes (On the PK as well as even strength). He is also right handed which is a plus for the Avs and scores more goals in less toi. I'd prefer Compher over Kerfoot too
19 jui 2019 à 15 h 17
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J.L.
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Quoting: drewjenks
Is Kerfoot better than Compher?


Compher has 20+ and 30+ point seasons last two seasons while Kerfoot has 40+ point seasons in same time.
20 jui 2019 à 13 h 03
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93in93
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Quoting: JonJon
Exactly same deal as Kerfoot did, so yes, an overpayment. Feels like they kept the wrong guy.


They don't get Kadri unless Kerfoot comes back & Kadri is a great add for Colorado
20 jui 2019 à 13 h 07
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93in93
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EW projected his 4 year expectation at $3.4M so seems about right, I don't think this is an over payment
20 jui 2019 à 13 h 10
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J.L.
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Quoting: ninetythreein93
They don't get Kadri unless Kerfoot comes back & Kadri is a great add for Colorado


I mean they should have sent Compher not Kerfoot. Well, easy for me to say lol
20 jui 2019 à 13 h 17
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93in93
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Quoting: JonJon
I mean they should have sent Compher not Kerfoot. Well, easy for me to say lol


I know what you meant, I don't think Toronto wanted Compher, they wanted Kerfoot so without Kerfoot the deal doesn't happen
20 jui 2019 à 14 h 21
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J.L.
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Quoting: ninetythreein93
I know what you meant, I don't think Toronto wanted Compher, they wanted Kerfoot so without Kerfoot the deal doesn't happen


sorry not a native english speaker so sometimes i miss even the simple things smile
 
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