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No cap space for Marner

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Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 13 juill. 2019
Publié: 14 juill. 2019
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14 juill. 2019 à 0 h 53
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Marner will accept that he'll have to take less than 10 million and the Leafs can squeeze the Cap number to fit him in.
14 juill. 2019 à 1 h 8
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Marner will accept that he'll have to take less than 10 million and the Leafs can squeeze the Cap number to fit him in.


How much do u think Marner will accept? 9M? Even if he accept "just" 9M, Toronto would still be in a cap hell situation. Just 3 players getting more than 30M and 4 getting almost 40M. That's insane!
Besides, if Leafs offers just 9M, I think there'll be an offer sheet by another team and Leafs will lose him anyway. Toronto should move on from Marner.
14 juill. 2019 à 1 h 11
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How much do u think Marner will accept? 9M? Even if he accept "just" 9M, Toronto would still be in a cap hell situation. Just 3 players getting more than 30M and 4 getting almost 40M. That's insane!
Besides, if Leafs offers just 9M, I think there'll be a offer sheet by another team and Leafs will lose him anyway. Toronto should move on from Marner.


Sadly for the Marner camp, the window is closing for an offer sheet, for except only a handful of teams are done with their roster and their budget.
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14 juill. 2019 à 1 h 19
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How much do u think Marner will accept? 9M? Even if he accept "just" 9M, Toronto would still be in a cap hell situation. Just 3 players getting more than 30M and 4 getting almost 40M. That's insane!
Besides, if Leafs offers just 9M, I think there'll be a offer sheet by another team and Leafs will lose him anyway. Toronto should move on from Marner.


Wrong...even at 10,568,590 for Marner ( lets neglect Term for now ) there will be 13M Cap space for filling three D spots on 22 men roster in 2020/2021, if we assume Sandin and Liljegren will be ready for 3rd Pair and Cap will be go up for 2,5M, so 84M.

Tho i have to say the trade looks good for our Fan base
14 juill. 2019 à 1 h 40
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The wing depth looks too weak without Marner
14 juill. 2019 à 2 h 46
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I honestly don’t think the Flyers would accept this, that’s an absolutely massive price for a guy that’s clearly asking for too much money
14 juill. 2019 à 10 h 8
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Quoting: Willian_Cardoso
How much do u think Marner will accept? 9M? Even if he accept "just" 9M, Toronto would still be in a cap hell situation. Just 3 players getting more than 30M and 4 getting almost 40M. That's insane!
Besides, if Leafs offers just 9M, I think there'll be a offer sheet by another team and Leafs will lose him anyway. Toronto should move on from Marner.


why is it cap hell having your star players locked up. cap hell only exists when you have players that are not not contributing and taking up disproportionate cap space.

spending to the cap with a productive team is good management and use of resources.
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 39
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why is it cap hell having your star players locked up. cap hell only exists when you have players that are not not contributing and taking up disproportionate cap space.

spending to the cap with a productive team is good management and use of resources.


Are u ok with 4 offensive players being responsible for almost 50% of Toronto's salary cap? So, you think D and goalie positions are not that important, don't you? That's insane. I can't disagree more with you. Year after year we've been seen that just teams with solid D and great goalie performances wins Cups. Prove me that I'm wrong and I'll change my mind. But I'm pretty sure that you can't.
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Wrong...even at 10,568,590 for Marner ( lets neglect Term for now ) there will be 13M Cap space for filling three D spots on 22 men roster in 2020/2021, if we assume Sandin and Liljegren will be ready for 3rd Pair and Cap will be go up for 2,5M, so 84M.

Tho i have to say the trade looks good for our Fan base


As I just said, I'd never accept my team (I'm a Pens fan) using almost 50% of their salary cap in just 4 players. And the worst part of that in this case is that all of them are offensive ones. That's a stupid cap management. Specially when you look to how team are winning cups lately. ALL OF THEM had solid D and a great goalie. Toronto can't build a team like that in mid/long terms signing Marner. It'd compromise their future. That's for sure.
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Sadly for the Marner camp, the window is closing for an offer sheet, for except only a handful of teams are done with their roster and their budget.


Well, in this point I have to agree with u.
15 juill. 2019 à 15 h 48
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Marner will accept that he'll have to take less than 10 million and the Leafs can squeeze the Cap number to fit him in.


I just said to the guys here what I think about it.
17 juill. 2019 à 16 h 44
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Are u ok with 4 offensive players being responsible for almost 50% of Toronto's salary cap? So, you think D and goalie positions are not that important, don't you? That's insane. I can't disagree more with you. Year after year we've been seen that just teams with solid D and great goalie performances wins Cups. Prove me that I'm wrong and I'll change my mind. But I'm pretty sure that you can't.


would both Pens wins not count, yes they got good goal tending performances but they weren't high priced guys at the time. also Pits defense was mediocre at best but they won by committee. I don't think you can adequately correlate cap spent to cup wins, not every cup winner spent to the cap, sometimes you get break out performances by players you don't expect (Eller from last year for example) if you spend on a few stars and surround them with some decent complimentary pieces and fill the rest out with ELC's and other small contracts you can win. I'm not saying its ideal to spend a lot on a few but whats the alternative pay everyone 3-4 million ... that team would suck. Also if they get him for a few years the cap will go up and that 50% in 4 guys you speak of will be 35-40% in a couple years. whats your ideal star spend to the rest of the team?
 
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