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Would this be so bad

Créé par: csick
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 11 juill. 2019
Publié: 12 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
58 400 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
54 500 000 $
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Boeser, Brock8 400 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020
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  1. Veleno, Joseph
  2. Zadina, Filip
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DET)
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  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Gagner, Sam
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
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EDM
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (NYR)
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MIN
  1. Russell, Kris
  2. Yamamoto, Kailer
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2021 (DET)
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2381 500 000 $78 198 665 $0 $2 632 500 $3 301 335 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
RFA - 3
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
8 400 000 $8 400 000 $
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UFA - 3
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808 333 $808 333 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $
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RFA - 4
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
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925 000 $925 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, C
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
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UFA - 1
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UFA - 1
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5 187 500 $5 187 500 $
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NMC
UFA - 1
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
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NTC
UFA - 1
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741 666 $741 666 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
RFA - 1

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12 juill. 2019 à 9 h 48
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Considering I don't think any of these teams accept these deals, yes I think it would be very bad.
12 juill. 2019 à 9 h 54
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dzingel a cane now also
12 juill. 2019 à 10 h 32
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For the 1000 time on here, Boeser is not eligible to sign an offer sheet.
12 juill. 2019 à 11 h 53
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Two 2nds, Zadina, Veleno (Detroit's best offensive prospects) and the worst contract in the league. Draisaitl is good but not that good.
12 juill. 2019 à 11 h 55
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Two 2nds, Zadina, Veleno (Detroit's best offensive prospects) and the worst contract in the league. Draisaitl is good but not that good.


50 goals = not that good lol, what does "THAT GOOD" produce
12 juill. 2019 à 12 h 25
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50 goals = not that good lol, what does "THAT GOOD" produce


There isn't a player in the league THAT GOOD!

First one player can't win you a cup it can't even get you in to the playoffs. If it could Edmonton would have 4 straight cups and Connor would have a fist full of rings.

Second look back at some older trades where one player goes for a bunch of assets it never works well for the team getting the one player.

Without the Lindros trade does Colorado have any cups?

LA got Gretzky and Edmonton got a cup in 1989-90. It took 21yrs for LA to get a cup.
12 juill. 2019 à 13 h 4
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There isn't a player in the league THAT GOOD!

First one player can't win you a cup it can't even get you in to the playoffs. If it could Edmonton would have 4 straight cups and Connor would have a fist full of rings.

Second look back at some older trades where one player goes for a bunch of assets it never works well for the team getting the one player.

Without the Lindros trade does Colorado have any cups?

LA got Gretzky and Edmonton got a cup in 1989-90. It took 21yrs for LA to get a cup.


You literally still have Bertuzzi, Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou, Nielsen. You could even switch Veleno for Rasmussen or Svechnikov and id still do that
aedoran a aimé ceci.
12 juill. 2019 à 13 h 35
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Look up the rules of offer sheets before posting them. An entry level RFA has to have played 3 full seasons to be offer sheet eligible, Boeser has only played 2. Therefore that OS is invalid
12 juill. 2019 à 16 h 19
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Modifié 12 juill. 2019 à 16 h 26
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You literally still have Bertuzzi, Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou, Nielsen. You could even switch Veleno for Rasmussen or Svechnikov and id still do that


You would still make the trade and I wouldn't. You will probably find more people who would agree with your point of view over mine. This like all trades it's all subjective. Detroit is still rebuilding and it is too early to start trading assets for one veteran player. That is how teams end up in the never ending rebuild. Like Buffalo, NJ, Florida and Edmonton. Then you have Lucic's contract 4yrs left @ $6M per and he had 20 points. He has NMC he can't even be placed waivers and sent to the AHL with out his ok, that also means he has to be protected in the expansion draft. I think if Edmonton can move him (not to Detroit) they will notice immediate change in performance. I think Lucic is a cancer.
If you change Veleno for Rasmussen and Zadina for Svechnikov like you said above I'd think about making the trade then.

This type statement drives me crazy "You literally still have Bertuzzi, Larkin, Mantha, Athanasiou, Nielsen." So since Detroit has a couple of good young players we should give some to you?
Another example:
Not too long ago around the TDL I saw a mock trade for a older 3rd or 4th line player and it had Detroit giving up a 2nd for that player. I said Detroit passes and his argument was you have 3 2nd rd picks.

Detroit needs quality defensemen and since you have a few. Why not give Detroit Nurse and Bouchard?

Since I'm on the topic the other statement that drives me crazy is when trade is purposed to your team and you say no because the value is off.
Then that person says "You have to give up good players to get good players." While I do agree with that but not when the person who purposed the trade is saying it.
 
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