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Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 9 juill. 2019
Publié: 9 juill. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
EDM
  1. Ryan, Bobby
Détails additionnels:
- Ryan waives his NTC here for a fresh start and a chance to play with McDavid
- Edmonton gets out from 1 terrible contract of Lucic, but acquires Ryan who has an equally rough contract for nearly a million and half more per year but for 1 less season.
OTT
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
- Ottawa takes a chance on a young player trying to spark his career in Puljujarvi.
- Comes with taking a bad contract in Lucic but adding a player with a cup and a tough edge isn’t always a bad thing for a young and rebuilding team.
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2281 500 000 $78 721 165 $0 $1 980 000 $2 778 835 $
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12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
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7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
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1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AD, AG, C
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
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894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance230 000 $$230K)
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750 000 $750 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 150 000 $2 150 000 $
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UFA - 1
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2 835 000 $2 835 000 $
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UFA - 1
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1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
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UFA - 1
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4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
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4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
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NTC
UFA - 1
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
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UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 36
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Lucic won’t waive his NMC for Ottawa.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 41
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Quoting: Eclipze
Lucic won’t waive his NMC for Ottawa.


It’s been reported he will waive to go pretty much anywhere. Smaller market like Ottawa may even be preferred, less media attention than Edmonton.
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9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 42
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This is a pretty creative idea. I think that Ottawa might consider it if Edmonton retained $1M (so Melnyk would be out only $2M on Lucic this year, for a net of at least $4M) and added a 2022 second.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 44
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Quoting: FlamesBlow
It’s been reported he will waive to go pretty much anywhere. Smaller market like Ottawa may even be preferred, less media attention than Edmonton.


Is there a source to that? I haven't heard anything about it.
9 juill. 2019 à 16 h 49
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I think Lucic would waive to go anywhere else in my honest opinion. I was thinking about salary retention but it kind of plays out how it should
9 juill. 2019 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
This is a pretty creative idea. I think that Ottawa might consider it if Edmonton retained $1M (so Melnyk would be out only $2M on Lucic this year, for a net of at least $4M) and added a 2022 second.


Bobby Ryan is due approx $20.5MM for the remainder of his contract (assuming the $2.0MM signing bonus is paid by OTT this year)
Milan Lucic is due approx $16.0MM for the remainder of his contract (assuming the $3.0MM signing bonus is paid by EDM this year)

By taking Lucic, OTT already saves $4.5MM in total cash / salary paid, even though his contract goes for one more year. There is no way that EDM should be retaining any salary related to Milan Lucic if this trade were to happen.

The sweetener here for taking on Lucic is Poolparty who has a high perceived ceiling. EDM also shouldn't be giving any additional sweeteners above and beyond a 4th round pick to make this trade work.
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9 juill. 2019 à 17 h 54
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I actually think this is a net neutral trade to both teams, with upside that pays tribute to each teams goals... Good idea.
9 juill. 2019 à 22 h 38
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Bobby Ryan is due approx $20.5MM for the remainder of his contract (assuming the $2.0MM signing bonus is paid by OTT this year)
Milan Lucic is due approx $16.0MM for the remainder of his contract (assuming the $3.0MM signing bonus is paid by EDM this year)

By taking Lucic, OTT already saves $4.5MM in total cash / salary paid, even though his contract goes for one more year. There is no way that EDM should be retaining any salary related to Milan Lucic if this trade were to happen.

The sweetener here for taking on Lucic is Poolparty who has a high perceived ceiling. EDM also shouldn't be giving any additional sweeteners above and beyond a 4th round pick to make this trade work.


How do you figure Lucic is due only $16M for the remaining period of his contract? He's due $3M this year and $18M for each of the next 3 years.
10 juill. 2019 à 10 h 35
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How do you figure Lucic is due only $16M for the remaining period of his contract? He's due $3M this year and $18M for each of the next 3 years.


I think you’re trying to say he’s due $6.0MM for each of the next three years for a total of $18.0MM... which is incorrect. That’s his cap hit, no actual cash owed to him. His contract was weighted towards the front half of the term. He’s due $3.0MM Salary and $3.0MM bonus on July 17th this year. Following that, he’s owed $4.0MM, $5.0MM and $4.0MM cash payments (mix of salary and bonus) for the next three seasons.
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10 juill. 2019 à 19 h 54
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I think you’re trying to say he’s due $6.0MM for each of the next three years for a total of $18.0MM... which is incorrect. That’s his cap hit, no actual cash owed to him. His contract was weighted towards the front half of the term. He’s due $3.0MM Salary and $3.0MM bonus on July 17th this year. Following that, he’s owed $4.0MM, $5.0MM and $4.0MM cash payments (mix of salary and bonus) for the next three seasons.


You're absolutely right. I should look into contract terms and specifications more carefully. I jus assumed that the terms of the remaining years of his contract were the same as this year's. Thanks for correcting me specifically about this contract and generally about assuming that cap hit and compensation are equal. Real general managers have to deal with this additional aspect all the time; so should we. And, obviously, I withdraw my opinion about adjusting the proposed trade. @coreydox did an even better job than I originally credited him for.
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11 juill. 2019 à 10 h 36
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Bury Brodziak and Manning, you’ll get $2.0MM in additional cap space.

Call up Jones to play left side with Benning/Persson.

Gagner should be playing third line right wing, and Khaira should be fourth line centre. Haas will likely be given opportunity on third line centre to start.

Bring up benson to slot in the left (likely given time on third and second) to increase competition on the wings.

Your first line has some deadly potential.
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11 juill. 2019 à 11 h 10
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Bury Brodziak and Manning, you’ll get $2.0MM in additional cap space.

Call up Jones to play left side with Benning/Persson.

Gagner should be playing third line right wing, and Khaira should be fourth line centre. Haas will likely be given opportunity on third line centre to start.

Bring up benson to slot in the left (likely given time on third and second) to increase competition on the wings.

Your first line has some deadly potential.


I think I'll try this.
11 juill. 2019 à 14 h 7
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I think I'll try this.


This is what I would do... Not perfect, but definitely an improvement to the roster this year, and provides lots of space for future years: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1319700
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11 juill. 2019 à 14 h 19
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This is what I would do... Not perfect, but definitely an improvement to the roster this year, and provides lots of space for future years: https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1319700


Really well done.

I think both of us should have included one of Ottawa's three 2020 sixth-round draft picks, just to fill up Ken Holland's dance card.
 
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