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Marner offre sheet

Créé par: Habsnation
Date de création initiale: jui 7, 2019
Publié: 7 jui 2019 à 13 h 50
Équipe: 2019-20 Canadiens de Montréal
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Romanov, Alexander3925 000 $
Caufield, Cole3925 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell510 500 000 $
Armia, Joel22 300 000 $
Lehkonen, Artturi22 300 000 $
Offres hostiles
Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans
JOUEURAAVCOMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell10 500 000 $
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021
Transactions
MTL
  1. 2020 2e round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Byron, Paul
Rachats de contrats
  • Steve Mason: 1 366 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: 350 000 $ (50%)
Enfoui
  • Dale Weise: 1 275 000 $ (2 350 000 $)
  • Matthew Peca: 225 000 $ (1 300 000 $)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
CHI
BUF
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $80 253 808 $0 $3 977 500 $1 246 192 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MTL
Domi, Max
3 150 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
Marner, Mitchell
10 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
2 300 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
925 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 2
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
4 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
1 400 000 $
C, AD, AG
UFA - 2
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
863 333 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
MTL
Armia, Joel
2 300 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MTL
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
3 500 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
1 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Kulak, Brett
1 850 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MTL
Folin, Christian
800 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MTL
Reilly, Mike
1 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MTL
Fleury, Cale
771 666 $
DD
RFA - 2
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
763 333 $
C
RFA - 3

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7 jui 2019 à 13 h 51
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7 jui 2019 à 13 h 52
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Toronto matches anything 10.5 or under.
7 jui 2019 à 13 h 53
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No!!! unless they trade a big asset for draft picks such Nylander
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 00
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Matched.


That's bad. You know how much of an overpayment he is lol...
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7 jui 2019 à 14 h 01
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That's bad. You know how much of an overpayment he is lol...


I know its bad lol. He should not be making more than 9.5 MAX.. its nuts..
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 01
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Quoting: Habsnation
No!!! unless they trade a big asset for draft picks such Nylander


They have the cap space to match, they made it by trading away Nazem kadri, Nikita Zaitsev, and bringing in smaller cheaper pieces to help.
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No!!! unless they trade a big asset for draft picks such Nylander


Oh yeah buddy. They match that and let you eat your **** next year with Max Domi!
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 02
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I know its bad lol. He should not be making more than 9.5 MAX.. its nuts..


I feel like a 8x9M should be a good deal, even personally feel like he should be at 6x7.5/8
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7 jui 2019 à 14 h 03
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I know its bad lol. He should not be making more than 9.5 MAX.. its nuts..


But whatever this is a MTL "offre sheet"
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 04
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
I feel like a 8x9M should be a good deal, even personally feel like he should be at 6x7.5/8


Yup.. I mean.. some people just look at production and hohoho he had 94 points he is the best on the leafs.. no. I know I look at different stats and you too. Those show that he was carried by Tavares extremely, it is historically proven. Its just crazy to me how people dont see how amazing Tavares is. He is so good.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 06
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Oh yeah buddy. They match that and let you eat your **** next year with Max Domi!


Marner wants to play for Montreal hahaha Next
Year Toronto will need money for defense... Only
Rielly is under contract... no way for Toronto to have 3 players over 10M..!

Tomorrow MTL is gonna oversheet him
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 07
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Marner wants to play for Montreal hahaha Next
Year Toronto will need money for defense... Only
Rielly is under contract... no way for Toronto to have 3 players over 10M..!

Tomorrow MTL is gonna oversheet him


AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH MARNER WANTS WHAT???? LMAO IM DONE
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 08
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Yup.. I mean.. some people just look at production and hohoho he had 94 points he is the best on the leafs.. no. I know I look at different stats and you too. Those show that he was carried by Tavares extremely, it is historically proven. Its just crazy to me how people dont see how amazing Tavares is. He is so good.


Worst mistake... Tavares is overpaid... should be at 8-8.5M as Duchene or draisatl
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 08
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Yup.. I mean.. some people just look at production and hohoho he had 94 points he is the best on the leafs.. no. I know I look at different stats and you too. Those show that he was carried by Tavares extremely, it is historically proven. Its just crazy to me how people dont see how amazing Tavares is. He is so good.


It's the same with Mikko Rantanen, but some people don't get it...
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 11
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Quoting: Habsnation
Worst mistake... Tavares is overpaid... should be at 8-8.5M as Duchene or draisatl


LMAO

Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
It's the same with Mikko Rantanen, but some people don't get it...


Yup..
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 12
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Quoting: Habsnation
Worst mistake... Tavares is overpaid... should be at 8-8.5M as Duchene or draisatl


Agree on that point, the JT contract is overpaid for sure, should have been closer to $10M
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 13
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Quoting: Habsnation
Worst mistake... Tavares is overpaid... should be at 8-8.5M as Duchene or draisatl


You are 1 funny, 2 ridiculous, and 3 can I have some of the weed you are smoking???

1, John Tavares is the best Player on the Toronto Maple Leafs
2. Mitch Marner doesn't want to play for a team that well
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3. John Tavares is worth as much as he is paid the guy who is overpaid and should be making less than 7.5 Million is Carey Price, and Shea Weber.

4. At least Toronto can make playoffs unlike the glorious Montreal Canadiens.

5. Toronto has 5 Defenseman signed to Contracts on the NHL Level Thank You, and they still have a couple Prospect defenseman they can use in the NHL too.

6. Toronto's cap situation works perfectly to fit 3 Players over 10 Million Dollars.

So uh have fun thinking they will offersheet, maybe next they trade carey price to Toronto for a 7th....
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 15
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Quoting: ChiHawk
Agree on that point, the JT contract is overpaid for sure, should have been closer to $10M


maybe, but he is still producing enough to be worth 11M.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
maybe, but he is still producing enough to be worth 11M.


To that point, Marner is worth $9.5M all day long then. Skinner got $9M and Marner is a better player hands down not only today but especially considering his upside.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 16
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Quoting: Habsnation
Worst mistake... Tavares is overpaid... should be at 8-8.5M as Duchene or draisatl


I have a feeling you are jacob, a guy I knew on discord, and a complete idiot.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: ChiHawk
To that point, Marner is worth $9.5M all day long then. Skinner got $9M and Marner is a better player hands down.


Better player can only be shown without Tavares.
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This is with Tavares, and he heavily leans on Tavares with his beefed up stats people are going to say he is really good, which to me isn't acceptable. Look closer than the basic statline.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 18
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
You are 1 funny, 2 ridiculous, and 3 can I have some of the weed you are smoking???

1, John Tavares is the best Player on the Toronto Maple Leafs
2. Mitch Marner doesn't want to play for a team that well
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3. John Tavares is worth as much as he is paid the guy who is overpaid and should be making less than 7.5 Million is Carey Price, and Shea Weber.

4. At least Toronto can make playoffs unlike the glorious Montreal Canadiens.

5. Toronto has 5 Defenseman signed to Contracts on the NHL Level Thank You, and they still have a couple Prospect defenseman they can use in the NHL too.

6. Toronto's cap situation works perfectly to fit 3 Players over 10 Million Dollars.

So uh have fun thinking they will offersheet, maybe next they trade carey price to Toronto for a 7th....


1. I’m ready to bet that MTL will lift Stanley cup first than maple loosers LOL

2. Dubas thinks his playing nhl 19 on ps4 without salary cap

3. MTL has best prospect pool

4. We have space for another 2 players over 10M
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
Better player can only be shown without Tavares.
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This is with Tavares, and he heavily leans on Tavares with his beefed up stats people are going to say he is really good, which to me isn't acceptable. Look closer than the basic statline.


You can't look at that alone as Marner with JT and without. There's 3 guys on the line and all 3 play a part in advanced stats not 2 of 3. There is no doubt Marner and JT benefit from one another that much is true and no doubt that a stud center like JT can cement a line better then a stud winger but that doesn't matter which winger to center comparison you're talking about. Patrick Kane on the 3rd line isn't going to look too good either.

I don't buy into that explanation floating around on how good Marner is. He's clearly a top 10 winger in the league. He has the skill to be a top 5 winger in the league. Dynamic wingers need high IQ linemates to play with...this shows nothing more or less.
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: Habsnation
1. I’m ready to bet that MTL will lift Stanley cup first than maple loosers LOL

2. Dubas thinks his playing nhl 19 on ps4 without salary cap

3. MTL has best prospect pool

4. We have space for another 2 players over 10M


and when will the Habs raise another cup likely 2078 something like that I would go to say Toronto wins a cup in 2020.
2 no because he made the cap work he has enough to sign marner to a long-term 10.5M contract hence the reason we have said they will MATCH.
3 no you don't have the best Prospect Pool, not even close to the best prospect pool, go look at Ottawa, and Minnesota, and Boston, and Florida, and Anaheim. All have better Prospect Pools than Montreal because Kotkaniemi, and Poehling don't count anymore they played NHL ice and they are staying on the NHL ice.
4 no you actually don't you have spent too much money on players like Price, and Shea Weber. Also called being a hypocrite if you have enough for another 2 10+M you are basically they same as Dubas. Stop playing on NHL 19....kid
7 jui 2019 à 14 h 27
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Quoting: ChiHawk
You can't look at that alone as Marner with JT and without. There's 3 guys on the line and all 3 play a part in advanced stats not 2 of 3. There is no doubt Marner and JT benefit from one another that much is true and no doubt that a stud center like JT can cement a line better then a stud winger but that doesn't matter which winger to center comparison you're talking about. Patrick Kane on the 3rd line isn't going to look too good either.

I don't buy into that explanation floating around on how good Marner is. He's clearly a top 10 winger in the league. He has the skill to be a top 5 winger in the league. Dynamic wingers need high IQ linemates to play with...this shows nothing more or less.


No he has the skill to be a Top Line Winger at most, but to say he is one of the best Wingers in the League, and still have a worse CF% than Tarasenko, Radulov, Gallagher, and even Aho is quite hilarious how much wool is pulled over everyone's eyes.
 
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