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Fixing the team

Créé par: MajesticWalrus
Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh
Date de création initiale: 30 juin 2019
Publié: 30 juin 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Trading kessel was a mistake and obviously a result of internal issues
If we're going after more wingers then it shouldn't be perry or simmonds unless they're on really cheap deals which they won't be
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  1. Laine, Patrik [Droits de RFA]
  2. Lowry, Adam
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  1. Bjugstad, Nick
  2. Ölund, Linus
  3. Rust, Bryan
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Rust and Lowry contracts are similar enough but Laine will probably ask for more than Bjugstads 4.1 million and Winnipeg needs to sign Kyle Connor. WPG clears cap for connor and gets bjugstad who could have similar production to Aline but not as good at face offs as Lowry. Rust can produce more than Lowry.
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  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (OTT)
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  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
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  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (DAL)
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30 juin 2019 à 15 h 3
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Wow I hope your joking about that jets trade
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Jets pass like 30 times over
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30 juin 2019 à 15 h 7
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Why not throw in Scheifle and Hellebuyck too while you're at it, and you want MIN to give up Spurgeon for a cap dump, an overpaid old guy and Jarry, but then you pay to get rid of Guddy which I don't think they'll have to do after how well he played for them, and you trade a guy who was their best defenseman at times this season for scraps and Cogliano, and you way overpaid filppula and Hainsey, and Laine is gonna want more than 6, and WAAAYYY more ice time than 3rd line minutes
30 juin 2019 à 15 h 7
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Hahahahahaha that’s so horrible

edit: wow apparently Bjustad is equal to Laine, that’s news to me. And Laine getting 8x6.5 lmao
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30 juin 2019 à 15 h 7
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You managed to make every trade absolutely terrible for one of the teams involved. You think the Kessel trade wasn't good your Dumoulin trade is probably every bad trade JR has put together combined bad.
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30 juin 2019 à 15 h 15
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You want to trade Brian dumoulin for trash and then sign Ron hainsey. You make me sick.
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30 juin 2019 à 15 h 19
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Why not throw in Scheifle and Hellebuyck too while you're at it, and you want MIN to give up Spurgeon for a cap dump, an overpaid old guy and Jarry, but then you pay to get rid of Guddy which I don't think they'll have to do after how well he played for them, and you trade a guy who was their best defenseman at times this season for scraps and Cogliano, and you way overpaid filppula and Hainsey, and Laine is gonna want more than 6, and WAAAYYY more ice time than 3rd line minutes
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I didnt take spurgeon. It's Brodin who had like 6 more points than Johnson. Plus MIN gets hornqvist and Jarry since Brodins just good defensively. Guddy is stil an overpaid 3rd pairing guy. Cogliano trade gains cap space and lost picks. Filpulla and hainsey deals are less than what they got paid last season even though they played great last season it's just their age that made me give less. And laine plays on the 3rd line in WPG sometimes 2nd. Laine will definitely not get more than 6 if he stays in wpg since Kyle Connor outperformed him and is also an rfa along with some other names.

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Brodin and hainsey >>>>>>dumoulin
30 juin 2019 à 15 h 21
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@bunzy1034 @Spleenmaster1002 @reeds77 @comyog
I didnt take spurgeon. It's Brodin who had like 6 less points than Johnson. Plus MIN gets hornqvist and Jarry since Brodins just good defensively. Guddy is stil an overpaid 3rd pairing guy. Cogliano trade gains cap space and lost picks. Filpulla and hainsey deals are less than what they got paid last season even though they played great last season it's just their age that made me give less. And laine plays on the 3rd line in WPG sometimes 2nd. Liane will definitely not get more than 6 if he stay in wpg since Kyle Connor outperformed him and is also an rfa along with some other names.

@donkeylips
Brodin and hainsey >>>>>>dumoulin


You're high but okay
30 juin 2019 à 15 h 23
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You're high but okay


I hope that is sarcasm.
30 juin 2019 à 15 h 24
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You're high but okay


Did you understand what I wrote and find that I was right?
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@bunzy1034 @Spleenmaster1002 @reeds77 @comyog
I didnt take spurgeon. It's Brodin who had like 6 more points than Johnson. Plus MIN gets hornqvist and Jarry since Brodins just good defensively. Guddy is stil an overpaid 3rd pairing guy. Cogliano trade gains cap space and lost picks. Filpulla and hainsey deals are less than what they got paid last season even though they played great last season it's just their age that made me give less. And laine plays on the 3rd line in WPG sometimes 2nd. Laine will definitely not get more than 6 if he stays in wpg since Kyle Connor outperformed him and is also an rfa along with some other names.

@donkeylips
Brodin and hainsey >>>>>>dumoulin


Hainsey>Dumo... I don't even comprehend
30 juin 2019 à 15 h 30
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@bunzy1034 @Spleenmaster1002 @reeds77 @comyog
I didnt take spurgeon. It's Brodin who had like 6 more points than Johnson. Plus MIN gets hornqvist and Jarry since Brodins just good defensively. Guddy is stil an overpaid 3rd pairing guy. Cogliano trade gains cap space and lost picks. Filpulla and hainsey deals are less than what they got paid last season even though they played great last season it's just their age that made me give less. And laine plays on the 3rd line in WPG sometimes 2nd. Laine will definitely not get more than 6 if he stays in wpg since Kyle Connor outperformed him and is also an rfa along with some other names.

@donkeylips
Brodin and hainsey >>>>>>dumoulin


Buddy laine is a 21 year old with 3 30+ goal seasons already. After ovechkin is gone he is going to be the rocket trophy favourite year in and year out. You never trade players like that and definitely not for a return like that. He always played at least second line and for a good chunk of games was on the top line this season.
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Buddy laine is a 21 year old with 3 30+ goal seasons already. After ovechkin is gone he is going to be the rocket trophy favourite year in and year out. You never trade players like that and definitely not for a return like that. He always played at least second line and for a good chunk of games was on the top line this season.
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How is that possible when Connor wheeler and scheifele is their set top line. 30+ don't win you rocket trophies. 45+ goal seasons do. When ovechkins gone kucherov, mcdavid, mackinnon, draisaitl, debrincat, etc will take the reigns. And Laine was on the 3rd line for a good chunk of the season never the top line.
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Hainsey>Dumo... I don't even comprehend


If you go back and read properly you'll see that I typed Brodin too and Brodin alone is way better than dumoulin.
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How is that possible when Connor wheeler and scheifele is their set top line. 30+ don't win you rocket trophies. 45+ goal seasons do. When ovechkins gone kucherov, mcdavid, mackinnon, draisaitl, debrincat, etc will take the reigns. And Laine was on the 3rd line for a good chunk of the season never the top line.


I watch the jets every game so I think I know which lines he played on. Yeah 2 30+ goal season and a 44 goal season is insane for a player who is 21. That trade is equivalent to Guentzel for Perrault and a 2nd
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How is that possible when Connor wheeler and scheifele is their set top line. 30+ don't win you rocket trophies. 45+ goal seasons do. When ovechkins gone kucherov, mcdavid, mackinnon, draisaitl, debrincat, etc will take the reigns. And Laine was on the 3rd line for a good chunk of the season never the top line.


Did you even watch the Jets this year? I watched every game this year, and I can tell you that Laine played on the 2nd line for the majority of the year, and played around 8 games with Scheifele and Wheeler. He was not on the 3rd line for the majority of the season like you say.

Also Laine has 44 goals in 17-18, not sure if you’re aware of that or not
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I watch the jets every game so I think I know which lines he played on. Yeah 2 30+ goal season and a 44 goal season is insane for a player who is 21. That trade is equivalent to Guentzel for Perrault and a 2nd
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Well I pay attention to every teams line ups on a nightly basis for fantasy purposes and you are dead wrong and considering the ice time and production of Connor scheifele and wheeler too I'd say you don't know what you're talking about.
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If you go back and read properly you'll see that I typed Brodin too and Brodin alone is way better than dumoulin.


O I thought you meant Hainsey> Dumo and Brodin>Dumo, but then if you think that how much value do you think Jarry and Hornqvist have bc Dumo is a top pairing d man so if Brodin> then his value should be way higher, and you're giving up Hornqvist for him bc generally Jarry is used to cancel out JJ's negative value...
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O I thought you meant Hainsey> Dumo and Brodin>Dumo, but then if you think that how much value do you think Jarry and Hornqvist have bc Dumo is a top pairing d man so if Brodin> then his value should be way higher, and you're giving up Hornqvist for him bc generally Jarry is used to cancel out JJ's negative value...


Yea it's to dump hornqvist and Johnson but Johnsons production was similar to brodin but Brodie is better defensively and hornqvist is still a top 6 winger considering his point per game average playing on the 3rd line for most of the year.
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O I thought you meant Hainsey> Dumo and Brodin>Dumo, but then if you think that how much value do you think Jarry and Hornqvist have bc Dumo is a top pairing d man so if Brodin> then his value should be way higher, and you're giving up Hornqvist for him bc generally Jarry is used to cancel out JJ's negative value...


Yea it's to dump hornqvist and Johnson but Johnsons production was similar to brodin but Brodie is better defensively and hornqvist is still a top 6 winger considering his point per game average playing on the 3rd line for most of the year.
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Well I pay attention to every teams line ups on a nightly basis for fantasy purposes and you are dead wrong and considering the ice time and production of Connor scheifele and wheeler too I'd say you don't know what you're talking about.



Mate I watched every game this year, and CSW was our main 1st line, I’m not denying that. What I’m saying is that Laine played on the 2nd line for the majority of the year, but he also got bunch of games on the 1st line with Scheifele and Wheeler, and looked pretty good as well.
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Yea it's to dump hornqvist and Johnson but Johnsons production was similar to brodin but Brodie is better defensively and hornqvist is still a top 6 winger considering his point per game average playing on the 3rd line for most of the year.


JJ was only one of the worst defensemen in the league last year, Hornqvist is old, has fallen off in production just doesn't look good on the ice anymore, is at the point in his career where power forwards tend to fall off a cliff in production, he's small for the type of game he plays, oh and he makes 5 mil for the next 4 years, and you want to trade that and one of the worst players in the league along with an average goalie spec for a guy you're saying is better than Dumo, but then again you're saying he's barely better than JJ sooooo... Idk
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JJ was only one of the worst defensemen in the league last year, Hornqvist is old, has fallen off in production just doesn't look good on the ice anymore, is at the point in his career where power forwards tend to fall off a cliff in production, he's small for the type of game he plays, oh and he makes 5 mil for the next 4 years, and you want to trade that and one of the worst players in the league along with an average goalie spec for a guy you're saying is better than Dumo, but then again you're saying he's barely better than JJ sooooo... Idk

I'm saying his offensive production is barely better than Johnson. They're both looked at for they're defensive ability at this point and same with dumoulin. Defensively brodin>dumoulin>Johnson. And if you go by the eye test Johnson really wasn't that bad, he was decent enough defensively, it's just that he was playing on his off hand for most of the year and he's an overpaid 3rd pairing guy like gudbranson.
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I'm saying his offensive production is barely better than Johnson. They're both looked at for they're defensive ability at this point and same with dumoulin. Defensively brodin>dumoulin>Johnson. And if you go by the eye test Johnson really wasn't that bad, he was decent enough defensively, it's just that he was playing on his off hand for most of the year and he's an overpaid 3rd pairing guy like gudbranson.


I watched 86 pens games last year, JJ got burned about 86,000 times in those games, he wasn't good at all
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I watched 86 pens games last year, JJ got burned about 86,000 times in those games, he wasn't good at all


3rd pairing guy will do that against good players lol
 
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