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Créé par: Coleharborcrosby

Équipe: 2019-20 Penguins de Pittsburgh

Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2019

Publié: 28 juin 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Speculation about way Pens could go after reports from the Athletic.

What I believe is Kessels NTC list:

Washington
Columbus
Philadelphia
Tampa
Vegas
Toronto
Blackhawks
Islanders

One way to circumvent Kessel situation is 3 way trade. Here is an idea for Vegas.

Pens Recieve: Gusev Zucker
Knights Recidves: Kessel Riikola Min 2nd Pit 1st
Minnesota Recieves: Pit 3rd Smith Rights to Gorman

Vegas wins deal as they create cap, get assets and receive Kessel but all teams win because Pens get rid of Kessel and Minny gets rid of Zucker.

Gusev will be best contract in the NHL at 4M IMO.

Might not have to give up first in Ott trade but I would if it was necessary.

Calgary needs secondary scoring with size and goalie and wants to move a Dman.

Cupboards are bare again but Pens are all in next 3 Years so that’s alright. They don’t need to do any deadline shopping with this lineup and have all year to mesh. As long as Sullivan is coach Hornqvist will be on this team. This year would be their last best chance at the cup. They would have a tonne of expiring contracts and would have to resign Murray and McCann and choose a few out of Pageau, Kahun, Schultz, Brodie and Simon to keep but will have some prospects ready to step in at that point so it won’t really matter.

Let’s go Jim let’s do it

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Gusev, Nikita	3	4 000 000 $
Pettersson, Marcus	2	1 500 000 $
Blueger, Teddy	2	800 000 $
Aston-Reese, Zach	1	950 000 $
Blandisi, Joseph	1	700 000 $
Johnson, Adam	1	700 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Prow, Ethan	2	700 000 $
Wilson, Garrett	1	700 000 $
Hayes, Jimmy	1	700 000 $
Erkamps, Macoy	1	700 000 $
Gormley, Brandon	1	700 000 $
Campbell, Andrew	1	700 000 $

Transactions

PIT

Pageau, Jean-Gabriel

OTT

Johnson, Jack
Rust, Bryan
Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 (PIT)

PIT

Brodie, TJ

CGY

PIT

Zucker, Jason
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MIN)

MIN

Choix de 3e ronde en 2021 (PIT)

PIT

Gusev, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
Smith, Reilly

VGK

Kessel, Phil
Riikola, Juuso
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (MIN)

PIT

MIN

Smith, Reilly

PIT

MIN

Gorman, Liam [Liste de réserve]

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2020
2021
2022

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
23	81 500 000 $	79 600 400 $	132 500 $	2 982 500 $	1 899 600 $

Formation

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Guentzel, Jake 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5	Crosby, Sidney 8 700 000 $8 700 000 $ C NMC UFA - 6	Hörnqvist, Patric 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 4
Gusev, Nikita 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ C NMC UFA - 3	Zucker, Jason 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ AG, AD M-NTC UFA - 4
McCann, Jared 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C UFA - 1	Kahun, Dominik 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 850 000 $$3M) AG, AD, C UFA - 1
Simon, Dominik 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1	Blueger, Teddy 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AG UFA - 2	Aston-Reese, Zach 950 000 $950 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Dumoulin, Brian 4 100 000 $4 100 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 4	Letang, Kris 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ DD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 3	Murray, Matt 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Schultz, Justin 5 500 000 $5 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 1	DeSmith, Casey 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 3
	Gudbranson, Erik 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Brodie, TJ 4 650 400 $4 650 400 $ DG/DD M-NTC UFA - 1
Pettersson, Marcus 1 500 000 $1 500 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Ruhwedel, Chad 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 2
Palve, Oula 792 500 $792 500 $ (132 500 $$132K) C UFA - 1
Prow, Ethan 700 000 $700 000 $ DD UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Guentzel, J.		Crosby, S.		Gusev, N.
	Letang, K.		Malkin, E.

Avantage numérique 2
Zucker, J.		McCann, J.		Hörnqvist, P.
	Schultz, J.		Brodie, T.

Infériorité numérique 1
	Blueger, T.	Aston-Reese, Z.
	Dumoulin, B.	Letang, K.

Infériorité numérique 2
	Pageau, J.	Kahun, D.
	Brodie, T.	Gudbranson, E.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 4

#51

Coleharborcrosby

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Where are you getting Sid and Geno dont want kessel? You're the one being very ignorant lmao

Athletic reports from Rossi and Yohe. It’s either Kessel or Sullivan and they’re picking Sullivan.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 4

#52

hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: ChampEddy

Athletic reports from Rossi and Yohe

Link them then

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 4

#53

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Link them then

Do you have an account you have to pay

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 5

#54

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Quoting: mhockey91

LMAOOO you just lost all your credibility naming Lehkonen even close to kessel

Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

OMG HE BROUGHT UP KASE TUCH AND EBERLE LMAOOOOOOOO

Multiple “Lmao”s? Check.
Never actually having anything that goes against the claim you’re laughing at? Check.
We’re on CapFriendly? Check.
Both people have pens profile pictures? Check.
Alright, this checks all the boxes.
Weaponized autism is engaged.

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 5

#55

PenGoater99

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

You said Lehkonen. Im not even going to waste my time based off that lmao

I mean, Lehkonen had a better CF%, CF rel %, GF%, rel GF%, xG+/-, rel xGF%, pen +/-, iCF/60, ixGF/60, all while having a lower shot % and lower PDO.

Based off those stats Lehkonen was better at both ends of the ice than Kessel this past year (especially defensively).

I don't say this just to get a reaction, there's truth behind it.

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 5

#56

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Quoting: ChampEddy

Do you have an account you have to pay

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 6

#57

hockeyfanatic05

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Quoting: BeastMode5515

Irrelevant comment that has nothing to do with you? Check

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 8

#58

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Quoting: mhockey91

I know it’s not all about points but kessel has outscored this guy every year of his career. And you can use the BS “BUt hE PlAyS wITh mAlKIn” narrative but even when he played on Toronto with bozak as he centre he was still elite. Sure kessel sucks defensively but that’s not his job. His job is to generate offence and he’s great at it. I’m all for trading kessel but not for the package listed and pens should do better than Zucker. I’d want a young, high ceiling forward back who hasn’t hit his peak yet. Similar to a 2017/18 Guzental

I know Pens/Flyers would never make a deal this big but would a guy like Konecny fit your description?

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 10

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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT

I know Pens/Flyers would never make a deal this big but would a guy like Konecny fit your description?

It would never happen but I love konecny.

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 14

#60

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The golden knights are desperate. They won’t need that much to convince them to unload cap.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 16

#61

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Quoting: Pensfan89

The golden knights are desperate. They won’t need that much to convince them to unload cap.

So are we though and so is minny to get rid of Zucker. They move two great players in the deal. If Pens can get away with less than Obviously that’s great but I would still do it for a first.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 17

#62

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Quoting: ChampEddy

So are we though and so is minny to get rid of Zucker. They move two great players in the deal. If Pens can get away with less than Obviously that’s great but I would still do it for a first.

The pens aren’t desperate. Would they like to clear more cap? Sure, do they absolutely need to? No. Vegas absolutely needs to

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 22

#63

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Danault had a better CF%, CF REL%, GF %, xG+/- than malkin. Does that mean he's just as good?

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 28

#64

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Danault had a better CF%, CF REL%, GF %, xG+/- than malkin. Does that mean he's just as good?

Well it shows Danault (who had an excellent year) was better defensively compared to Malkin (who had a down year).

Doesn't validate your point of Kessel being as good as you think though

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 30

#65

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Quoting: PenGoater99

Well it shows Danault (who had an excellent year) was better defensively compared to Malkin (who had a down year).

Doesn't validate your point of Kessel being as good as you think though

Im not bringing up that to validate kessel. I brought it up and asked if that means Danault is better than Malkin? Because according to you, points do not determine skill

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 31

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

Danault had a better CF%, CF REL%, GF %, xG+/- than malkin. Does that mean he's just as good?

Its ridiculous rhetoric comparing kessel to lehkonen. Don’t feed into that. Idk why some pens fans are so clueless

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 32

#67

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Quoting: mhockey91

Its ridiculous rhetoric comparing kessel to lehkonen. Don’t fead into that

I dont get why he's bringing up defense lol. Everyone knows kessel doesn't play defense. The pens traded for him to put up points and get goals. And he's one of the better players at his position for scoring points

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 32

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Quoting: ExpiredmilkYT

I know Pens/Flyers would never make a deal this big but would a guy like Konecny fit your description?

Oh lord I’d be doing backflips if Pens landed Konecny for kessel.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 33

#69

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Quoting: hockeyfanatic05

I’m just not reading it anymore haha.

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28 juin 2019 à 22 h 33

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Quoting: Pensfan89

The pens aren’t desperate. Would they like to clear more cap? Sure, do they absolutely need to? No. Vegas absolutely needs to

Pens are desperate to move Kessel. Athletic reports saying it’s inevitable but they’re in trouble because of Kessels NTC. And pens need to clear cap as well but not as desperate as Vegas for cap reasons for sure.

28 juin 2019 à 22 h 34

#71

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Quoting: mhockey91

I’m just not reading it anymore haha.

Based off his logic, pens should trade Malkin and Kessel for Lehkonen and Danault

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28 juin 2019 à 23 h 57

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Send Kessel to the Blues

29 juin 2019 à 0 h 36

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Quoting: Sicarius

Send Kessel to the Blues

If he is on the list then sure

18 nov. 2019 à 15 h 56

#74

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Quoting: ChampEddy

Check out his stats, watch highlights and a few KHL/World championship games. The guy is basically Panarin but less of a goal scorer and more of a playmaker. Is going to dominate this league just like he dominated KHL. Especially playing with Malkin.

So far you are way off with that assessment lmao

18 nov. 2019 à 15 h 57

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Quoting: ChampEddy

You obviously don’t know anything about Gusev...

I would take Gusev over Kessel straight up. And the 1st next year with this team is probably gonna be #31 honestly.

Kessel is going to be moved or they’re firing Sullivan. One of the two is gonna happen from reports it seems that management, ownership and Sid/Geno are choosing Sullivan.

@mhockey91 remember when this idiot was trying to argue Gusev was going to come into the league and dominate?

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