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Marner takes less if he doesnt get an offersheet

Créé par: Hedman4Norris
Date de création initiale: jun 28, 2019
Publié: Jun 28, 2019 at 2:41 pm
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Explications
I have a feeling this marner side show Is about to come to an end soon. Kap and mango got pretty sweet deals and the pressure is on marner agent to sign a reasonable deal now. Dubas will make moves to help his club especially on defense. Marner's agent is praying for an offer sheet it's the only way to get leverage back in the negotiations, there won't be another stand off till December, marner will either sign a reasonable deal, get traded for a wicked Dman ,or offersheet (least likely) for an overpayment and the leafs trade those acquired picks for pieces to push for the playoffs and potentially win a round or 2 who knows but alot of factors have to come into play since that is so far ahead
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell59 500 000 $
UFAANNÉESCAP HIT
Kinkaid, Keith11 300 000 $
Krüger, Marcus1800 000 $
Ennis, Tyler21 000 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. 2020 3e round pick (CBJ)
OTT
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita
  2. Bracco, Jeremy
TOR
  1. Benning, Matthew
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
TOR
  1. Spurgeon, Jared
Détails additionnels:
Signs an extension 5 years 6 million per year
MIN
  1. Kadri, Nazem
  2. 2021 2e round pick (TOR)
  3. 2020 7e round pick (STL)
TOR
  1. Bonino, Nick (2 050 000 $ retained)
NSH
  1. Holl, Justin
  2. 2020 3e round pick (CBJ)
  3. 2020 6e round pick (CAR)
Rachats de contrats
  • Mikhail Grabovski: 0 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Phil Kessel: 1 200 000 $ (15%)
  • Robin Lehner: 1 100 000 $ (22%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2020
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
EDM
SJS
WPG
2021
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
2022
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2381 500 000 $81 947 199 $0 $0 $-447 199 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TOR
Johnsson, Andreas
3 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
TOR
Matthews, Auston
11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
TOR
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 6
TOR
Marner, Mitchell
9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
TOR
Moore, Trevor
775 000 $
AD, AG
RFA - 2
NSH
Bonino, Nick
2 050 000 $
C
UFA - 2
TOR
Kapanen, Kasperi
3 200 000 $
AD
RFA - 3
TOR
Engvall, Pierre
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TOR
Ennis, Tyler
1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
TOR
Petan, Nicolas
775 000 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TOR
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
MIN
Spurgeon, Jared
5 187 500 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 1
TOR
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
TOR
Muzzin, Jake
4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
TOR
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $
DG
RFA - 1
Kinkaid, Keith
1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TOR
Rosén, Calle
750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
EDM
Benning, Matthew
1 900 000 $
DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Krüger, Marcus
800 000 $
C
UFA
TOR
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $
AD
NMC NTC
UFA - 1
TOR
Gauthier, Frédérik
675 000 $
C
RFA - 1
TOR
Borgman, Andreas
700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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28 jun 2019 à 14 h 44
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Maple Leafs Believer
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problem. Matthews, due in 5 years. Nylander, due in 5 years. Marner, due in 5 years. I'll let you do the math here
28 jun 2019 à 14 h 46
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Lets go bolts!
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Oh I'm aware of cap hell, but that's 5 years from now problem. If they can't win a cup or go super deep in the playoffs with this core in that time frame I'd imagine there would be some changes so yeah they are on the clock.
28 jun 2019 à 14 h 48
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Bruins fan here - This doesn't seem that complicated to me... Trade Nylander for D. What am I missing?
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28 jun 2019 à 14 h 51
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Quoting: Vortex
problem. Matthews, due in 5 years. Nylander, due in 5 years. Marner, due in 5 years. I'll let you do the math here


Doesn't really matter if all three are due in five years. They will be free agents the math says you're chance of sign a UFA including your own is one on thirty two. If the Leafs are contenders that will be Leafs till June 2024. If not they might be traded by the TDL 2024. If they are unsigned as UFAs...well that's 28m to spend on other players. No problem that's the nature of contracts and free agency.
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28 jun 2019 à 14 h 53
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Lets go bolts!
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Quoting: palhal
Doesn't really matter if all three are due in five years. They will be free agents the math says you're chance of sign a UFA including your own is one on thirty two. If the Leafs are contenders that will be Leafs till June 2024. If not they might be traded by the TDL 2024. If they are unsigned as UFAs...well that's 28m to spend on other players. No problem that's the nature of contracts and free agency.


Always like hearing from you palhal.
28 jun 2019 à 14 h 57
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Quoting: Hedman4Norris
Always like hearing from you palhal.


Thanks. No every doesgrin Interesting many FANatics bath in the glory in the signing a UFA....that's perfectly acceptable. But when one of their own UFAs sign with another team, it's like ripping a child from their mother.
28 jun 2019 à 15 h 01
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Lets go bolts!
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Quoting: palhal
Thanks. No every doesgrin Interesting many FANatics bath in the glory in the signing a UFA....that's perfectly acceptable. But when one of their own UFAs sign with another team, it's like ripping a child from their mother.


It's emotional attachment to the players. Which is understandable but the players don't give a **** which why should they, it's a business about money once people realize that, it'll be more about winning than who is on your team that wins for you.
28 jun 2019 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: Propeller09
Bruins fan here - This doesn't seem that complicated to me... Trade Nylander for D. What am I missing?


The problem is the $6.9M salary, he is good, but $6.9M good?
Kadri & Zaitsev also need to be moved, but they also are overpaid.

Just like the Jackets' Dubinsky and Wennberg problem.
Both are good players, in their own way, but OVERPAID.
Dubi on leadership, grit, faceoffs and D zone coverage (but not scoring or passing)
Wennberg on sound D zone coverage and passing (but not scoring or faceoffs)
28 jun 2019 à 15 h 55
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Quoting: Bluejackets2000
The problem is the $6.9M salary, he is good, but $6.9M good?
Kadri & Zaitsev also need to be moved, but they also are overpaid.

Just like the Jackets' Dubinsky and Wennberg problem.
Both are good players, in their own way, but OVERPAID.
Dubi on leadership, grit, faceoffs and D zone coverage (but not scoring or passing)
Wennberg on sound D zone coverage and passing (but not scoring or faceoffs)


I don't think Nylander is that overpaid. Maybe a little and he had a rough go of it coming back. Zaitsev is a different story. Sandin and Rosen seem like they could be good enough where you could package Nylander and Lilligren and land a top pairing guy.

Ristolainen would be a guy they should target. He has had a couple rough years, but A) it's Buffalo B) I think Hedman is a decent comp. & he had some serious struggles his 1st 4-5 years.
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