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(CHI/CAR) - Forsberg, Forsling for De Haan, Saarela

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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 37
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Trade confirmed: Carolina Hurricanes - Chicago Blackhawks
Détails de la transaction
Les Hurricanes de la Caroline font l’acquisition de:
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Anton Forsberg · 0 $0 $0 $ (LAH/JR) (Droits de signature)
Gustav Forsling · 0 $0 $0 $ (Droits de signature)
Somme: 0 $0 $0 $
Variation: -4 550 000 $
Variation: -5 303 333 $
Variation: 0 $
Les Blackhawks de Chicago font l’acquisition de:
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Calvin De Haan · 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $4 700 000 $
Aleksi Saarela · 0 $753 333 $70 000 $ (LAH/JR)
Somme: 4 550 000 $5 303 333 $4 770 000 $
Variation: +4 550 000 $
Variation: +5 303 333 $
Variation: +4 770 000 $
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 38
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Big W for CHI
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 39
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Steal by Chicago. Carolina is probably gonna make a run at Bob + Panarin.
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 40
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Weird that Chicago keeps taking in a lot of cap when big pieces of their young core want paydays in a year.
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 40
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CHI get a regular D and a decent prospect in Saarela. CAR gets two FAs, add depth on D but hope for them that they don't plan to have Forsberg as backup...
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 40
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So obviously Chicago won lol but I’m interested in the Saarela kid. Great numbers in the ahl, young also
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 41
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Big win for CHI. Trading away two guys that basically said they weren't going to sign in CHI for a solid D. They have to move a dman or two... it'll be interesting to see the next move
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 44
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De-Haan has been very good in Carolina. Confused why they did this.
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 45
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De Haan was a substantial piece to their success this past year, it really makes you think what they have planned. Just on the surface, it most likely means that Bean or Fleury is going to be a regular next year and Faulk may be staying. Carolina must've had a good meeting with some big FAs during the talking period to make a move like this.
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24 juin 2019 à 19 h 50
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I do like this deal for Chicago though. They improve their defence and they had the cap space.
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 53
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De-Haan has been very good in Carolina. Confused why they did this.


To make a run at a big free agent ie bob or bread man
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 54
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Win for Carolina because they unload cap to try and get a big free agent smarter long term if it works out but Chicago wins short term
24 juin 2019 à 19 h 55
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Steal by Chicago. Carolina is probably gonna make a run at Bob + Panarin.


I think that’s the basic idea
24 juin 2019 à 20 h 3
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What is CHI planning? Keith, Gustafsson, Matta, and now DeHaan all at LD? not counting Koekkoek, Beaudin, Dahlstrom, Krys all young LD...

Gustafsson on the move?
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24 juin 2019 à 20 h 3
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To make a run at a big free agent ie bob or bread man


It really depends what Aho wants. If he's reasonable then they may have been able to sign one of those guys anyway, but if Aho asks for like 11M per year or whatever then maybe moving De-Haan was a move they needed. It's a risk, though, because lots of teams will be going after Bob and Bread. They probably could have gotten a better return.
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24 juin 2019 à 20 h 4
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What is CHI planning? Keith, Gustafsson, Jokiharju, Matta, and now DeHaan all at LD? not counting Koekkoek, Beaudin, Dahlstrom all young LD...

Gustafsson on the move?

Only if they get good value. IMO he's pretty underrated. People talk about him like he's a 4/5 guy (or at least i think that's what most people think he is) and he's a 60 point d-man. Yes, it was just one good year, but 60 points as a d-man? That's pretty good.
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24 juin 2019 à 20 h 39
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Chicago now have 5 overpaid defenders. Why not make it 6!
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24 juin 2019 à 20 h 58
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Chicago now have 5 overpaid defenders. Why not make it 6!


Who are the 6?
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 0
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Who are the 6?


They have 5 not 6. They need another one to make it 6.
24 juin 2019 à 21 h 4
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They have 5 not 6. They need another one to make it 6.


You mean Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, De-Haan, and Maatta?

Seabrook is definitely overpaid, yes.
Keith i think is maybe a little underrated right now. He's still a very good defenseman. As of right now, it's not a horrible contract. The extra 4 years isn't great though.
Murphy isn't making a ton. Maybe a little overpaid but you could argue either way.
De-Haan i'm not so sure is overpaid compared to the average NHLer. He had a very good year in Carolina and isn't making a crazy amount.
Maatta is a little overpaid IMO. Not too much but maybe should be making more like 2.75-3M.
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24 juin 2019 à 21 h 37
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
You mean Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, De-Haan, and Maatta?

Seabrook is definitely overpaid, yes.
Keith i think is maybe a little underrated right now. He's still a very good defenseman. As of right now, it's not a horrible contract. The extra 4 years isn't great though.
Murphy isn't making a ton. Maybe a little overpaid but you could argue either way.
De-Haan i'm not so sure is overpaid compared to the average NHLer. He had a very good year in Carolina and isn't making a crazy amount.
Maatta is a little overpaid IMO. Not too much but maybe should be making more like 2.75-3M.


You could argue Keith is being paid what he deserves right now, but you are correct with the term, that is what makes it a bad contract.
You said every defensemen is overpaid so why even make the comment? Just say you agree
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24 juin 2019 à 22 h 49
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You could argue Keith is being paid what he deserves right now, but you are correct with the term, that is what makes it a bad contract.
You said every defensemen is overpaid so why even make the comment? Just say you agree


I didn't say every one is overpaid. Look what i said about De-Haan, Keith, and Seabrook. Keith isn't overpaid NOW. Just too long a contract.
24 juin 2019 à 22 h 52
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So they sign him as a UFA for four years and trade him after one? That can't happen very often.
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 16
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Wow, CHI def won this one. When I saw DeHaan to CHI I automatically assumed Saad is part of the deal.
I think Gus is gone now, he can bring really nice return, possible top 6 LW or RW.
CAR if I were to guess is after Bob. Panarin is not coming to CAR or FL, maybe if no one else offer him anything decent, but thats hard to believe.
24 juin 2019 à 23 h 24
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Quoting: Blazingbat11
What is CHI planning? Keith, Gustafsson, Matta, and now DeHaan all at LD? not counting Koekkoek, Beaudin, Dahlstrom, Krys all young LD...

Gustafsson on the move?


Gustafsson is probably the league's best value D heading into next season as a cap hit of only $1.2M. They're still in need of a much better defensive bottom six forward group. They were about the worst on the league last season.
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