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Dumba is a Bolt Trades with MIN - DET - MTL

Créé par: Zwui21
Date de création initiale: jun 12, 2019
Publié: 12 jun 2019 à 8 h 34
Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
Gourde traded before July 1 and TyJo agrees to waive his NTC.

All the cap needed to re-sign the 2020 RFAs is there.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Point, Brayden58 000 000 $
Erne, Adam21 050 000 $
Paquette, Cédric21 450 000 $
Verhaeghe, Carter3950 000 $
Masin, Dominik3800 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Coburn, Braydon11 450 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. 2019 7e round pick (DET)
DET
  1. Callahan, Ryan
  2. 2020 2e round pick (TBL)
  3. 2019 6e round pick (TBL)
TBL
  1. 2019 2e round pick (MTL)
  2. 2020 4e round pick (MTL)
MTL
  1. Gourde, Yanni
TBL
  1. Dumba, Matt
MIN
  1. Johnson, Tyler
  2. Sergachev, Mikhail
  3. Ingram, Connor
  4. 2020 4e round pick (TBL)
Rachats de contrats
  • Matthew Carle: 1 833 333 $
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
TBL
MTL
TBL
TBL
TBL
CHI
DET
2020
TBL
TBL
MTL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2183 000 000 $78 126 666 $0 $512 500 $4 873 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
TBL
Volkov, Alexander
864 167 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Palat, Ondrej
5 300 000 $
AD, AG
NTC
UFA - 3
TBL
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
TBL
Point, Brayden
8 000 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
TBL
Killorn, Alex
4 450 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
728 333 $
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
728 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TBL
Erne, Adam
1 050 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
1 450 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
TBL
Verhaeghe, Carter
950 000 $
C, AG
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
TBL
Cernak, Erik
697 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
TBL
Domingue, Louis
1 150 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
1 450 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Rutta, Jan
1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
TBL
Masin, Dominik
800 000 $
D
RFA - 1

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12 jun 2019 à 8 h 36
#1
Rejoint: jun 2017
Messages: 214
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You're giving way too much for Dumba. My goodness.
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 37
#2
Vorg1
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 244
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Quoting: Ichbinian
You're giving way too much for Dumba. My goodness.


I disagree. I’d say replace Johnson with Miller and it works.
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 39
#3
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Quoting: Ichbinian
You're giving way too much for Dumba. My goodness.


I know, I know. But you probably have to overpay in order to get a 24Dman already signed to a good contract for 4 more years.

Maybe Tyler Johnson + Sergachev would do it already
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 46
#4
BOLT LOVER
Rejoint: déc 2018
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Modifié 12 jun 2019 à 8 h 51
Nah I think it fair deal.. and God no on adding Miller it either TJ Gourde Palat or Killorn .. trade as is is good one .strong RD is key missing piece for Tampa and Minnesota gets top 4 D and a top 9 forward .. same trade could be made with 3 or 4 teams .. Buffalo Winnioeg etc .
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 46
#5
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Quoting: Vorg_Vaarg
I disagree. I’d say replace Johnson with Miller and it works.


It probably depends on what you value Sergachev. I made this trade like that because I feel like on this website he gets overlooked quite a lot and underestimated. Reality is he's a 20 yo Dman that already has a 40 points season under his belt, amazing puck movement and great overall offensive instinct + good hockey IQ. His defensive game is developing but has already got a lot better this season. This last season he's been confined to the third pairing and less quality ice time. But if he's given a decent role, he'd definitely thrive IMO. He has a great future ahead of him and (if Tampa will trade him in the future) the team that gets him will have a little gem on its hands
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 48
#6
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Quoting: BOLTLOVER1
Nah I think it fair deal.. and God no on adding Miller ot either TJ Gourde Palat or Killorn .. trade as is is good one .


We've talked about Trouba, Karlsson, ... but never about Dumba.. IMO He'd definitely check most of the boxes: RHD (obviously), physical play, great offensively but defensively solid too and also a young leader in the locker room. But I doubt MIN would give him away easily
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 52
#7
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Only player I think Dumba is moved for on the Bolts is Point, and Tampa isn't trading him.

Edit: Not trying to imply 1 for 1, just that Point would be the piece we'd want in a hypothetical Dumba trade.
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 54
#8
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Quoting: TanSor
Only player I think Dumba is moved for on the Bolts is Point, and Tampa isn't trading him.

Edit: Not trying to imply 1 for 1, just that Point would be the piece we'd want in a hypothetical Dumba trade.


Seeing Fenton's latest moves, I definitely doubt it lol
Edit: (but I agree that realistically seeing Tampa get Dumba is quite a reach - even tho in the past couple summers there were rumors reporting Tampa's interests in the player)
12 jun 2019 à 8 h 55
#9
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Quoting: Zwui21
Seeing Fenton's latest moves, I definitely doubt it lol


He wouldn't trade him for Nylander this past fall, and that was before his rough season. So I don't doubt it, if any team wants Dumba they're going to have to overpay for him.
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12 jun 2019 à 9 h 29
#10
Vorg1
Rejoint: jun 2019
Messages: 244
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Exactly. He’s one of the few bright spots on the Wild these days (no offense)
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12 jun 2019 à 9 h 37
#11
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Quoting: Vorg_Vaarg
Exactly. He’s one of the few bright spots on the Wild these days (no offense)


None taken, I agree with you. This franchise is kind of a dumpster fire.
12 jun 2019 à 9 h 41
#12
Vorg1
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Quoting: TanSor
None taken, I agree with you. This franchise is kind of a dumpster fire.


I lost faith when they traded Granlund for Fiala..yuck. Dumba is a great player with a bright future.
12 jun 2019 à 9 h 44
#13
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Quoting: Vorg_Vaarg
I lost faith when they traded Granlund for Fiala..yuck. Dumba is a great player with a bright future.


Eh, Granlund wanted $8-9M on an extension and he isn't worth anywhere near that type of money. While I think Fenton should have gotten more than just Fiala, he is still a really skilled player. If he can figure out how to not turn pucks over, 30 goals doesn't seem out of the question. He's still young, so there's time to do that.
12 jun 2019 à 9 h 48
#14
Vorg1
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Quoting: TanSor
Eh, Granlund wanted $8-9M on an extension and he isn't worth anywhere near that type of money. While I think Fenton should have gotten more than just Fiala, he is still a really skilled player. If he can figure out how to not turn pucks over, 30 goals doesn't seem out of the question. He's still young, so there's time to do that.


I hope you’re right.
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12 jun 2019 à 10 h 10
#15
BOLT LOVER
Rejoint: déc 2018
Messages: 2,120
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When Wild traded for that wussie privaledged overated Donato and Bruins got Coyle .. I just said wow ... and Bruins may get Cup because of that ONE move.
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