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Créé par: jonnymc26
Équipe: 2019-20 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 29 mai 2019
Publié: 29 mai 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
moderate improvements teams would just give away, Marleau retires
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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  1. Rask, Victor (1 000 000 $ retained)
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BUF
  1. Marleau, Patrick
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
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29 mai 2019 à 21 h 31
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Tampas not giving foote away
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29 mai 2019 à 23 h 3
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I like free
30 mai 2019 à 4 h 15
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Why would Marleau waive to come here?
And if he did... why would he then retire?
Makes no sense

Don’t want anything to do with Rask & that contract
30 mai 2019 à 17 h 31
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Quoting: Jdfitz77
Why would Marleau waive to come here?
And if he did... why would he then retire?
Makes no sense

Don’t want anything to do with Rask & that contract


hes being sent here so that toronto doesnt have to give away other players because of poor cap management. the pick is compensation for buffalo eating the cap space.
rask is still better than Sobotka for a 4th line roll.
30 mai 2019 à 17 h 33
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Tampas not giving foote away


they are less likely to keep team as is and be under the cap than keep all current prospects and picks.
30 mai 2019 à 20 h 36
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they are less likely to keep team as is and be under the cap than keep all current prospects and picks.


RD is more important than a forward, especially for them
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31 mai 2019 à 1 h 44
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hes being sent here so that toronto doesnt have to give away other players because of poor cap management. the pick is compensation for buffalo eating the cap space.
rask is still better than Sobotka for a 4th line roll.


1) You didn’t answer why Marleau would waive here just to retire... it makes no sense

2) Sobatka has 1 year left... so no, Rask for multiple years being overpaid for the 4th line really isn’t better (even though he sucks less than Sobatka)
Better off to just deal with a bad player for only ONE year and then actually replace him with someone decent

Totally nonsensical
31 mai 2019 à 23 h 32
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RD is more important than a forward, especially for them


no point is the most important thing for the team and they need at least 6m$ more cap space to sign him before they have to worrie about Vasilevskiy next year.
31 mai 2019 à 23 h 39
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1) You didn’t answer why Marleau would waive here just to retire... it makes no sense

2) Sobatka has 1 year left... so no, Rask for multiple years being overpaid for the 4th line really isn’t better (even though he sucks less than Sobatka)
Better off to just deal with a bad player for only ONE year and then actually replace him with someone decent

Totally nonsensical


i did answer that. why would you care where you don't have to go if you still get payed and it helps your favorite team. Marleau does not even come to buffalo in this scenario he literally just retires like it says in description and toronto get 6m$ in cap space at cost of a good pick.
Rask is still just 26 and Minnesota is retaining part of that contract. he is still nhl calaber player and good on PK, so looking a littler deeper than goals and assists when picking up bottom 6 players is very useful.
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no point is the most important thing for the team and they need at least 6m$ more cap space to sign him before they have to worrie about Vasilevskiy next year.


Their will be much better offers especially if Foote is involved. They could just buy out Callahan and theyre already in a better spot
1 juin 2019 à 15 h 54
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i did answer that. why would you care where you don't have to go if you still get payed and it helps your favorite team. Marleau does not even come to buffalo in this scenario he literally just retires like it says in description and toronto get 6m$ in cap space at cost of a good pick.
Rask is still just 26 and Minnesota is retaining part of that contract. he is still nhl calaber player and good on PK, so looking a littler deeper than goals and assists when picking up bottom 6 players is very useful.


Yeah... Rask is so “useful” that u have him as the 13th forward
That’s just laughable
Even if he was on line4...
$3mil for a 4th liner is just way too much

And your Marleau scenario is bonkers
Let’s just assume that your ridiculous assumptions all play out
He’s a 35+ contract
So even if he were to retire with us,
that 6.25mil Cap hit STILL COUNTS
We aren’t taking that on...
and can’t in your scenario where we have less than 1mil in Cap Space
You also can’t “bury” a retired contract
There’s just so many things with this that are ridiculous and would never happen

“He Could Retire And We Could Trade His Cap Hit
He could, but...
If a player signs a multi-year contract when he is age 35 or older, that deal counts against the team’s salary cap whether he is playing or not. See article 50.2(c)(iv) of the CBA”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pensionplanpuppets.com/platform/amp/2019/2/15/18225442/toronto-maple-leafs-contracts-patrick-marleau-contract-patrick-marleau-buyout-maple-leafs-salary-cap

This whole scenario is just plain awful,
and there’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE it would happen
1 juin 2019 à 16 h 23
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Yeah... Rask is so “useful” that u have him as the 13th forward
That’s just laughable
Even if he was on line4...
$3mil for a 4th liner is just way too much

And your Marleau scenario is bonkers
Let’s just assume that your ridiculous assumptions all play out
He’s a 35+ contract
So even if he were to retire with a different team,
his Cap hit still would count against the Leafs

“He Could Retire And We Could Trade His Cap Hit
He could, but...
If a player signs a multi-year contract when he is age 35 or older, that deal counts against the team’s salary cap whether he is playing or not. See article 50.2(c)(iv) of the CBA”


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pensionplanpuppets.com/platform/amp/2019/2/15/18225442/toronto-maple-leafs-contracts-patrick-marleau-contract-patrick-marleau-buyout-maple-leafs-salary-cap

This whole scenario is just plain awful,
and there’s absolutely ZERO CHANCE it would happen


so what is LA planing to do with him as that is the apparent rumor.
Minnesota ruins its bottom 6 players then they play just fine when off the team. ennis, coyle, pommeniville as recent examples. have some faith in the guy he is entering his prime and has good qualities 3m$ is not alot for an NHL player. yes its high but its better than the 9m$x 8 that i keep hearing skinner is going to get.
2 juin 2019 à 5 h 11
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so what is LA planing to do with him as that is the apparent rumor.
Minnesota ruins its bottom 6 players then they play just fine when off the team. ennis, coyle, pommeniville as recent examples. have some faith in the guy he is entering his prime and has good qualities 3m$ is not alot for an NHL player. yes its high but its better than the 9m$x 8 that i keep hearing skinner is going to get.


Marleau has a connection to LA bc it’s his previous coach
And u have him RETIRING anyways
Holy crap dude
I’m sorry to be harsh,
but you’re scenario couldn’t be more unrealistic

And trading for a 3mil 4th liner is just as ridiculous
Pommer wasn’t a 4th liner on Minny
Rask was dropped down the lineup in CAR & then traded bc he sucks
And he wasn’t on the 4th line in Minny bc he was good

Dude... seriously...
this might be the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen someone try to defend on here
2 juin 2019 à 5 h 13
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Also...

Tage at Center???
He couldn’t even play decent on the wing

I appreciate your Tampa idea though,
but I’d be pretty surprised if they gave up Foote
2 juin 2019 à 6 h 32
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LOL Lightning top prospect, that happens to be a RHD (the thing that Tampa needs the most) for a 1 year Callahan? lol.
Tampa was hesitant to trade away Foote in the trade for Karlsson at last year deadline and you think to get him like that... hahahhaa
2 juin 2019 à 13 h 23
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LOL Lightning top prospect, that happens to be a RHD (the thing that Tampa needs the most) for a 1 year Callahan? lol.
Tampa was hesitant to trade away Foote in the trade for Karlsson at last year deadline and you think to get him like that... hahahhaa


he is only tbl top prospect because they trade all their top prospects.
2 juin 2019 à 13 h 31
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he is only tbl top prospect because they trade all their top prospects.


That's bold to say, when in the last three years we got Point, Cirelli, Joseph and Cernak coming up.

Also, Volkov, Raddysh, Stephens, Katchouk, Verhaeghe, Barre-Boulet, Masin, Ingram, Huntington and Fortier would like to have a word with you.

We are in a pretty good spot with prospects, thank you for your concern
4 juin 2019 à 13 h 27
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That's bold to say, when in the last three years we got Point, Cirelli, Joseph and Cernak coming up.

Also, Volkov, Raddysh, Stephens, Katchouk, Verhaeghe, Barre-Boulet, Masin, Ingram, Huntington and Fortier would like to have a word with you.

We are in a pretty good spot with prospects, thank you for your concern


tampa drafts well i give them that but i disagree with you on what a good prospect is. if you have played 40nhl games or are over 21 not a prospect anymore (exclude goalies). Katchouk and Raddysh might be good mid 6 players the rest of names may even play in nhl some day as role players. not sold on Cernak yet but played well, Cirelli has looked fantastic and point is about to destroy your farm system because they need cap space to keep him and it will cost tbl deeply. no NHL gm in their right mind isnt going to force a massive overpay on tbls part to shred even a tiny bit of salary. as tbl has almost no bargaining power at this point with their cap crunch.
 
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