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Créé par: BleedBoltsBlue

Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay

Date de création initiale: 4 mai 2019

Publié: 4 mai 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Bare with me here... The Lightning lacked size, toughness and the so-called "grit" that is needed for playoff hockey. Added Ferland and Maroon (Jon Cooper coached Maroon in their NAHL days) for that reason. The last team to win a Stanley Cup without any players on its roster with previous experience was the 94 Rangers. Added OrpiK and Kuhnhackl for that reason. I understand many Lightning fans will say that we should use younger guys in the system, but the cup window is now. I am willing to keep them in the minors if it means winning a cup next year.

Point gets a bridge deal, Lightning maintain a pretty tight salary structure (shown by Kucherov bridge deal), this bridge deal will take him to the end of RFA and he will get PAIDDDD.

Traded away Johnson for picks because he has the most value of guys that can be traded. Palat was a tougher trade so I pretty much just picked a random team that would allow his cap to get off the books and salvage something. Both Johnson and Palat would have to waive their trade clauses.

This team won 62 games for a reason so major changes are not needed, the Lightning should keep Killorn and Miller for the fact of size and they have good chemistry with line mates and for their defensive aspects they bring. Johnson is not a driver of play, evidenced by his lack of assists and Palat cannot stay healthy.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Point, Brayden	4	7 500 000 $
Paquette, Cédric	3	1 250 000 $
Erne, Adam	3	925 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Ferland, Micheal	3	4 000 000 $
Maroon, Patrick	1	2 000 000 $
Kühnhackl, Tom	2	925 000 $
Coburn, Braydon	1	1 750 000 $
Orpik, Brooks	1	1 000 000 $

Transactions

TBL

Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (CAR)

CAR

Johnson, Tyler

TBL

Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (OTT)

OTT

Palat, Ondrej

Rachats de contrats

Matthew Carle: 1 833 333 $
Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
Ryan Callahan: 2 666 667 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2019
2020
2021

FORMATION

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INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	83 000 000 $	80 339 998 $	0 $	1 362 500 $	2 660 002 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Ferland, Micheal 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 4	Stamkos, Steven 8 500 000 $8 500 000 $ AG, C NMC UFA - 5	Gourde, Yanni 5 166 666 $5 166 666 $ C, AG, AD NTC UFA - 6
Miller, J.T. 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 4	Point, Brayden 7 500 000 $7 500 000 $ C, AD UFA - 3	Kucherov, Nikita 9 500 000 $9 500 000 $ AD UFA - 8
Killorn, Alex 4 450 000 $4 450 000 $ AD, AG NTC UFA - 4	Cirelli, Anthony 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) C, AG UFA - 1	Joseph, Mathieu 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) AG, AD UFA - 1

Maroon, Patrick 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Paquette, Cédric 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AG, AD UFA - 2	Kühnhackl, Tom 925 000 $925 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Erne, Adam 925 000 $925 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Hedman, Victor 7 875 000 $7 875 000 $ DG NMC UFA - 6	Sergachev, Mikhail 894 166 $894 166 $ (850 000 $$850K) DG/DD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ G UFA - 1
McDonagh, Ryan 6 750 000 $6 750 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 7	Cernak, Erik 697 500 $697 500 $ (147 500 $$148K) DD UFA - 1	Domingue, Louis 1 150 000 $1 150 000 $ G UFA - 1
	Rutta, Jan 1 300 000 $1 300 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 1
Coburn, Braydon 1 750 000 $1 750 000 $ DG UFA - 2
Orpik, Brooks 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ DG UFA

4 mai 2019 à 12 h 37

loganreid

Rejoint: mai 2017

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Let's see how long it take BOLTLOVER to call you a "disneylander" lol

ChytilMania a aimé ceci.

4 mai 2019 à 12 h 40

loganreid

Rejoint: mai 2017

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Paquette's not getting longer than a year if he does resign. He's that 13th forward mould perfectly where he could just as easily be swapped with a top line guy from the AHL.

Your logic is sound but I can't see them moving off of Palat. Johnson definitely, but I don't think it'll be this season.

4 mai 2019 à 12 h 44

BleedBoltsBlue

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BleedBoltsBlue

Rejoint: avr. 2019

Messages: 26

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Palat is a really tough trade. I figured Paquette was getting some security with this new contract considering he had a career year in points, I believe. Plus Jon Cooper LOVES the guys that came up with him through the AHL. Its why Palat and Johnson are always in the Top 6 when they sometimes shouldn't be.

4 mai 2019 à 13 h 18

BOLTLOVER1

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Rejoint: déc. 2018

Messages: 2,120

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Well I dont think Cooper has much leverage anymore .. most tenured coach in NHL and time for change .. get rid of the home grown shrimps asap or team will NEVER win. ..

OBVIOUSLY I agree with get experiece/grit/ leadership approach or team will never win

On interesting note .. I thought Paquette had good year and developed nicely including PK .. Tampa may lose him to a team that sees him as 3rd line center upgrade .. Erne totally replaceable but Paqueete will be interesting.. my bet .. he is signed by Tampa in next several weeks.

And YES Disneyland tickets for the bridge baffons.. they would all fail GM 101

4 mai 2019 à 14 h 34

BleedBoltsBlue

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BleedBoltsBlue

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I was on the train of “Fire Cooper” after being swept but I quickly got off because you don’t fire a coach that wins 62 games. It’s tough to justify that because then who do you hire?

Erne is replaceable but he will be back because of 2 reasons: 1) first full season in NHL last year, can’t replace after that small of a sample size. 2) bigger forward that Tampa doesn’t have, he just needs to understand that he’s 210 lbs and play like a net-front player. He plays like a perimeter player

Paquette may leave but he has a role on a perennial contender, tough to leave when you have a solidified role.

As for bridge deals...... only young players who have elite potential get higher bridge deals in the Lightning system. Gourde didn’t get one, and neither did Miller. Johnson and Palat were figured to have elite potential after Palat was a Calder nominee and Johnson scored 72 points one season so they got small bridges and they haven’t panned out. Kucherov got one for obvious reasons and Point should as well but they have been consistent for the past few seasons.

4 mai 2019 à 14 h 42

BOLTLOVER1

BOLT LOVER

Rejoint: déc. 2018

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You hire a proven Cup winning coach who doesnt act like a disinterested unapologetic whimp .. that's who. There is a length of time as a coach where change is needed. Time is now.

Owner season ticket holder letter giving a vote of confidence is beginning of the end as team needs leadership bad .. behind bench and on ice.

On bridge deals.. tell me why POINT would do it? All the Disneyland crowd sees through eyes of what is best for Tampa and rationalizes .. Points last 2 years production is unparalleled for a bridge deal .. as is never.

4 mai 2019 à 15 h 5

BleedBoltsBlue

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BleedBoltsBlue

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Okay so give me names of proven winners that aren’t taken and have a system that could win in today’s NHL? You seem to be in the crowd of “Fire Cooper” but don’t provide solutions, names of coaches etc. The only guy I would bring in for Cooper is Quenneville but he’s off the market. Just because Cooper doesn’t show the media that he’s interested doesn’t mean much of anything. We could have Melnyk and Dorion just remember that.

Okay as for Point.... once again why would Point leave? Players like to win.... Tampa wins. Point can leave sure, but whose giving up those draft picks and paying his salary? He’s not going to Ottawa, Edmonton, or New Jersey and willing to mortgage the prime years of his career in losing. On top of having money lost through taxes. All the teams with no state tax are in the upper half of the NHL right now so they can’t provide compensation for offer sheets.

4 mai 2019 à 15 h 9

BleedBoltsBlue

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If Lightning get bounced next year in first or second round or early in the third round then YES absolutely find a new coach. You cannot fire coaches who lose in game 7’s of conference finals with no for sure replacement who take the team over the hump. And that person has to be a bonefide bet they will win the cup but there is no such thing.

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