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Stanley Cup Experience

Créé par: BleedBoltsBlue
Date de création initiale: mai 4, 2019
Publié: 4 mai 2019 à 12 h 32
Équipe: 2019-20 Lightning de Tampa Bay
Explications
Bare with me here... The Lightning lacked size, toughness and the so-called "grit" that is needed for playoff hockey. Added Ferland and Maroon (Jon Cooper coached Maroon in their NAHL days) for that reason. The last team to win a Stanley Cup without any players on its roster with previous experience was the 94 Rangers. Added OrpiK and Kuhnhackl for that reason. I understand many Lightning fans will say that we should use younger guys in the system, but the cup window is now. I am willing to keep them in the minors if it means winning a cup next year.

Point gets a bridge deal, Lightning maintain a pretty tight salary structure (shown by Kucherov bridge deal), this bridge deal will take him to the end of RFA and he will get PAIDDDD.

Traded away Johnson for picks because he has the most value of guys that can be traded. Palat was a tougher trade so I pretty much just picked a random team that would allow his cap to get off the books and salvage something. Both Johnson and Palat would have to waive their trade clauses.

This team won 62 games for a reason so major changes are not needed, the Lightning should keep Killorn and Miller for the fact of size and they have good chemistry with line mates and for their defensive aspects they bring. Johnson is not a driver of play, evidenced by his lack of assists and Palat cannot stay healthy.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Point, Brayden47 500 000 $
Paquette, Cédric31 250 000 $
Erne, Adam3925 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Ferland, Micheal34 000 000 $
Maroon, Patrick12 000 000 $
Kühnhackl, Tom2925 000 $
Coburn, Braydon11 750 000 $
Orpik, Brooks11 000 000 $
Transactions
TBL
  1. 2019 2e round pick (CAR)
  2. 2020 2e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Johnson, Tyler
TBL
  1. 2020 3e round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Palat, Ondrej
Rachats de contrats
  • Matthew Carle: 1 833 333 $
  • Vincent Lecavalier: 0 $
  • Ryan Callahan: 2 666 667 $
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
TBL
CAR
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
CHI
2020
TBL
TBL
CAR
TBL
OTT
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
2021
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TBL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 000 000 $80 339 998 $0 $1 362 500 $2 660 002 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Ferland, Micheal
4 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 4
TBL
Stamkos, Steven
8 500 000 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
TBL
Gourde, Yanni
5 166 666 $
AD, AG, C
NTC
UFA - 6
TBL
Miller, J.T.
5 250 000 $
AG
UFA - 4
TBL
Point, Brayden
7 500 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
TBL
Kucherov, Nikita
9 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 8
TBL
Killorn, Alex
4 450 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 4
TBL
Cirelli, Anthony
728 333 $
C
RFA - 1
TBL
Joseph, Mathieu
728 333 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Maroon, Patrick
2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Paquette, Cédric
1 250 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
Kühnhackl, Tom
925 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
TBL
Erne, Adam
925 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
TBL
Hedman, Victor
7 875 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
TBL
Sergachev, Mikhail
894 166 $
DG
RFA - 1
TBL
Vasilevskiy, Andrei
3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
McDonagh, Ryan
6 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 7
TBL
Cernak, Erik
697 500 $
DD
RFA - 1
TBL
Domingue, Louis
1 150 000 $
G
UFA - 1
TBL
Coburn, Braydon
1 750 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 2
TBL
Rutta, Jan
1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Orpik, Brooks
1 000 000 $
DG
UFA

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4 mai 2019 à 12 h 37
#1
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 281
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Let's see how long it take BOLTLOVER to call you a "disneylander" lol
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4 mai 2019 à 12 h 40
#2
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 281
Mentions "j'aime": 49
Paquette's not getting longer than a year if he does resign. He's that 13th forward mould perfectly where he could just as easily be swapped with a top line guy from the AHL.

Your logic is sound but I can't see them moving off of Palat. Johnson definitely, but I don't think it'll be this season.
4 mai 2019 à 12 h 44
#3
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BleedBoltsBlue
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 18
Mentions "j'aime": 3
Palat is a really tough trade. I figured Paquette was getting some security with this new contract considering he had a career year in points, I believe. Plus Jon Cooper LOVES the guys that came up with him through the AHL. Its why Palat and Johnson are always in the Top 6 when they sometimes shouldn't be.
4 mai 2019 à 13 h 18
#4
BOLT LOVER
Rejoint: déc 2018
Messages: 2,120
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Well I dont think Cooper has much leverage anymore .. most tenured coach in NHL and time for change .. get rid of the home grown shrimps asap or team will NEVER win. ..

OBVIOUSLY I agree with get experiece/grit/ leadership approach or team will never win

On interesting note .. I thought Paquette had good year and developed nicely including PK .. Tampa may lose him to a team that sees him as 3rd line center upgrade .. Erne totally replaceable but Paqueete will be interesting.. my bet .. he is signed by Tampa in next several weeks.

And YES Disneyland tickets for the bridge baffons.. they would all fail GM 101
4 mai 2019 à 14 h 34
#5
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BleedBoltsBlue
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 18
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I was on the train of “Fire Cooper” after being swept but I quickly got off because you don’t fire a coach that wins 62 games. It’s tough to justify that because then who do you hire?

Erne is replaceable but he will be back because of 2 reasons: 1) first full season in NHL last year, can’t replace after that small of a sample size. 2) bigger forward that Tampa doesn’t have, he just needs to understand that he’s 210 lbs and play like a net-front player. He plays like a perimeter player

Paquette may leave but he has a role on a perennial contender, tough to leave when you have a solidified role.

As for bridge deals...... only young players who have elite potential get higher bridge deals in the Lightning system. Gourde didn’t get one, and neither did Miller. Johnson and Palat were figured to have elite potential after Palat was a Calder nominee and Johnson scored 72 points one season so they got small bridges and they haven’t panned out. Kucherov got one for obvious reasons and Point should as well but they have been consistent for the past few seasons.
4 mai 2019 à 14 h 42
#6
BOLT LOVER
Rejoint: déc 2018
Messages: 2,120
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You hire a proven Cup winning coach who doesnt act like a disinterested unapologetic whimp .. that's who. There is a length of time as a coach where change is needed. Time is now.

Owner season ticket holder letter giving a vote of confidence is beginning of the end as team needs leadership bad .. behind bench and on ice.

On bridge deals.. tell me why POINT would do it? All the Disneyland crowd sees through eyes of what is best for Tampa and rationalizes .. Points last 2 years production is unparalleled for a bridge deal .. as is never.
4 mai 2019 à 15 h 05
#7
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BleedBoltsBlue
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 18
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Okay so give me names of proven winners that aren’t taken and have a system that could win in today’s NHL? You seem to be in the crowd of “Fire Cooper” but don’t provide solutions, names of coaches etc. The only guy I would bring in for Cooper is Quenneville but he’s off the market. Just because Cooper doesn’t show the media that he’s interested doesn’t mean much of anything. We could have Melnyk and Dorion just remember that.

Okay as for Point.... once again why would Point leave? Players like to win.... Tampa wins. Point can leave sure, but whose giving up those draft picks and paying his salary? He’s not going to Ottawa, Edmonton, or New Jersey and willing to mortgage the prime years of his career in losing. On top of having money lost through taxes. All the teams with no state tax are in the upper half of the NHL right now so they can’t provide compensation for offer sheets.
4 mai 2019 à 15 h 09
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BleedBoltsBlue
Rejoint: avr 2019
Messages: 18
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If Lightning get bounced next year in first or second round or early in the third round then YES absolutely find a new coach. You cannot fire coaches who lose in game 7’s of conference finals with no for sure replacement who take the team over the hump. And that person has to be a bonefide bet they will win the cup but there is no such thing.
 
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