Offer Sheet

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Créé par: Hellochris06

Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline

Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2019

Publié: 1 mai 2019

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

Description

Carolina throws an offer sheet at Marner essentially moving them all-in. The first round picks are going to trend later in the first where you won't see a significant talent like Marner and given that the rest of the pieces are/might be there this makes some sense. The defense being signed to term helps this move. Aho value might be debatable. Ferland couldn't be re-signed in this scenario. Re-signed the same goalies to what I thought were close values. Let me know if I'm wrong. Made a cap-dump trade with Darling. Could be Detroit, could be elsewhere. For two years of a $3M cap hit on a buried guy that's good value. Didn't go through and sign all of the two-way/peripheral guys.

Obviously he'd have to sign it, but there are three outcomes. He doesn't sign, no harm done. He signs and Toronto doesn't match, Carolina gets a great player. Toronto does match and ties up ~$43M in 4 players before inevitably having to move Nylander so they can spend on defense or if not have little money to upgrade the back end.

Didn't really pay any attention to the lines.

Just for fun.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

RFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell	7	12 250 000 $
Aho, Sebastian	6	7 250 000 $
Maenalanen, Saku	3	1 000 000 $

UFA	ANS	CAP HIT
Mrázek, Petr	3	3 000 000 $
McElhinney, Curtis	1	1 250 000 $
McKegg, Greg	1	800 000 $

Offres hostiles

Le salaire annuel moyen (AAV) de l'offre hostile est calculé en divisant la valeur totale du contrat par: 1. La durée totale du contrat, ou 2. Cinq ans

JOUEUR	AAV	COMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell	17 150 000 $	Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 Choix de 1e ronde en 2021 Choix de 1e ronde en 2022 Choix de 1e ronde en 2023

Transactions

CAR

DET

Darling, Scott
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (NYR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BUF)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (BUF)

Rachats de contrats

Alexander Semin: 2 333 333 $

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2019
2020
2021

FORMATION

VUE À LONG TERME

INTÉGRÉ

TEXTE INTÉGRÉ

TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
22	79 500 000 $	77 444 999 $	0 $	3 727 500 $	2 055 001 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Niederreiter, Nino 5 250 000 $5 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 3	Aho, Sebastian 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell 12 250 000 $12 250 000 $ AD UFA - 6
Svechnikov, Andrei 925 000 $925 000 $ (2 650 000 $$3M) AG, AD UFA - 2	Staal, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ C, AG NMC UFA - 4	Teräväinen, Teuvo 5 400 000 $5 400 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 5
Martinook, Jordan 2 000 000 $2 000 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 2	Necas, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (537 500 $$538K) AD RFA - 3	Geekie, Morgan 763 333 $763 333 $ (20 000 $$20K) C, AD RFA - 2
Foegele, Warren 746 667 $746 667 $ (20 000 $$20K) AG, AD UFA - 1
	Wallmark, Lucas 675 000 $675 000 $ C UFA - 1	Maenalanen, Saku 1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ AD, AG UFA

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Slavin, Jaccob 5 300 000 $5 300 000 $ DG UFA - 6	Hamilton, Dougie 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DD UFA - 2
De Haan, Calvin 4 550 000 $4 550 000 $ DG/DD UFA - 3	Faulk, Justin 4 150 000 $4 150 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 1
Bean, Jake 863 333 $863 333 $ (500 000 $$500K) DG/DD RFA - 2	Pesce, Brett 4 025 000 $4 025 000 $ DD UFA - 5	Mrázek, Petr 3 000 000 $3 000 000 $ G UFA - 2
	van Riemsdyk, Trevor 2 300 000 $2 300 000 $ DD UFA - 1	McElhinney, Curtis 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ G UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
McKegg, Greg 800 000 $800 000 $ C, AG UFA - 1

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 31

aedoran

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Detroit says OK we will happily take Darling! That would give Detroit 5 2nd round picks.

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 32

Gronk

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So you offer sheet Marner for 17,150,000 but he is signed for 12,250,000? And if Marner gets either of those 2 values, Aho is right behind him

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 34

Spanky227

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Quoting: Gronk

So you offer sheet Marner for 17,150,000 but he is signed for 12,250,000? And if Marner gets either of those 2 values, Aho is right behind him

reason for the offer sheet value is the contract is divided by the lesser of the contract length or 5 years. since he is signed for 7 years the formula is:
12.5*7=87.5/5=17.5

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 40

Jetman

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Quoting: Gronk

So you offer sheet Marner for 17,150,000 but he is signed for 12,250,000? And if Marner gets either of those 2 values, Aho is right behind him

Aho will be signed before July 1st so that point will be moot

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 41

Gronk

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Quoting: Jetman

Aho will be signed before July 1st so that point will be moot

And who said Marner won't be

1 mai 2019 à 10 h 51

Jetman

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Quoting: Gronk

And who said Marner won't be

Hello??? The only way for a team to offer sheet someone is if they become RFA's...as in after July 1st. This post is an offer sheet post...

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1 mai 2019 à 10 h 55

Ryminister_27

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4 future 1st round picks from a fringe playoff team? Plus overpaying a player that doesn't help their cap when Svechnikov and Necas need new deals? Doesn't sound smart at all. But Toronto declines to match the offer and takes the picks. Then signs one of the big free agents available for less to replace Marner. Uses the extra cap space to improve the defence, oh and has 4 future 1st round picks that could very easily turn into lottery picks. Thanks for making the team more complete Carolina.

It's not smart to offer sheet Marner. The price of his contract and the compensation greatly exceed his value. Now if you wanna talk trade, that seems more reasonable. Starts with Pesce. Inculdes one of Svechnikov or Necas and a 1st round pick. Plus maybe a bit more. But you'd be dumb to offer sheet him

1 mai 2019 à 11 h 2

Hellochris06

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

Would argue that as Svech, Necas, Pesce and Slavin get older they're going to get better. Add Marner who just put up 94 points to a team with a better defense and his production should stay in that range. At that point, I don't see them as a fringe team. I don't see Toronto being willing to trade him unless it's for a serious over-payment. Again, it's all just for fun.

1 mai 2019 à 11 h 3

Ryminister_27

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Quoting: Hellochris06

team needs a serious upgrade at goaltender to be considered anything more than a fringe team. With Mrazek and McElhinney next year I could very easily see them missing playoffs again

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1 mai 2019 à 11 h 6

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Hellochris06

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Quoting: Ryminister_27

team needs a serious upgrade at goaltender to be considered anything more than a fringe team. With Mrazek and McElhinney next year I could very easily see them missing playoffs again

As a Detroit fan, Mrazek is frustrating. If he could get out of his head he could be fantastic. The top of his game is Vezina quality, too bad he's as likely to be pulled as post a shut-out.

1 mai 2019 à 11 h 32

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palhal

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Strange that Marner gets a 12m contract from the Canes but Aho who has two seasons of exactly the same stats as Marner get 7m shakes head

2 mai 2019 à 8 h 56

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Hellochris06

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Quoting: palhal

Strange that Marner gets a 12m contract from the Canes but Aho who has two seasons of exactly the same stats as Marner get 7m shakes head

Pretty similar stats sure. In this situation you'd have to sign Aho first. The offer sheet was always going to cost more. Might have to give Aho only 5 years to get the lower number.

2 mai 2019 à 10 h 6

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palhal

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Quoting: Hellochris06

Pretty similar stats sure. In this situation you'd have to sign Aho first. The offer sheet was always going to cost more. Might have to give Aho only 5 years to get the lower number.

The reason that so many think Marner deserves to 12m is the thinking he should get more /the same as teammate Matthews. So by that logic, Aho and Marner should be getting similar numbers.

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