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TOR offseason trade

Créé par: CanesQue
Équipe: 2019-20 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 23 avr. 2019
Publié: 23 avr. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
89 000 000 $
2900 000 $
22 000 000 $
2950 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
44 250 000 $
33 500 000 $
13 750 000 $
11 000 000 $
Transactions
TOR
  1. Faulk, Justin (2 416 666 $ retained)
  2. Saarela, Aleksi
  3. Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 500 000 $79 618 332 $0 $3 207 500 $2 881 668 $
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
C
UFA - 5
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5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
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4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 4
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3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance537 500 $$538K)
AD
RFA - 3
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance20 000 $$20K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 6
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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900 000 $900 000 $
G
UFA - 2
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
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950 000 $950 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2

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23 avr. 2019 à 9 h 52
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How about Kadri, 2nd for Pesce, Saarela?
23 avr. 2019 à 9 h 55
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Quoting: SammyT_51
How about Kadri, 2nd for Pesce, Saarela?


I view Pesce as our 2nd best defenseman, so the acquisition cost for him would be higher.
23 avr. 2019 à 9 h 57
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I view Pesce as our 2nd best defenseman, so the acquisition cost for him would be higher.


Top-6 two way centerman with scoring qualities able to play against top lines of opposition on a great contract is really high value. Also top-60 pick is big thing too, especially if its 2020 pick which is deeep draft. Pesce is amazing, I would love to stitch his name on Leafs jersey with no2 on below the name and play him with Rielly. That trade would be fair for both sides. Kadri would be great acquisition to any team.
23 avr. 2019 à 10 h 2
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If Kadri was at his full value, I'd say this is pretty close. Unfortunately for Toronto, he's not and he might be the guy they have to sell low on for cap relief. So I think you're overpaying Toronto here. I've suggested Kadri for TVR ($500K retained), Nicholas Roy and a Carolina 3rd round pick for Kadri which I think is closer to fair value right now.

Quoting: CanesQue
I view Pesce as our 2nd best defenseman, so the acquisition cost for him would be higher.


The price would definitely be higher than Kadri and a 2nd but Pesce is your 3rd best d-man begins Slavin and Hamilton. He's not a #2 with very little offence to his game
CanesQue a aimé ceci.
23 avr. 2019 à 10 h 10
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Top-6 two way centerman with scoring qualities able to play against top lines of opposition on a great contract is really high value. Also top-60 pick is big thing too, especially if its 2020 pick which is deeep draft. Pesce is amazing, I would love to stitch his name on Leafs jersey with no2 on below the name and play him with Rielly. That trade would be fair for both sides. Kadri would be great acquisition to any team.


The issue with Kadri is that he's no longer seen as a sure thing to be a top 6 guy on any team. Last summer woulda been more justifiable for that. But right now, as much as he COULD be that, there's not much to back it up. & he certainly doesn't have the value of a top 6 player right now.
1) his production was down this year. 16 goals compared to 32 in each of the last 2 years. Even though he played against weaker opponents this year
2) he has a lengthy suspension/fine history now and at bad times
3) everyone knows Toronto needs to clear cap, you'll never get full value for a guy when the entire league knows that.

Even at full value, Kadri and a 2nd is still a bit off for Pesce. Pesce is younger, on a better contract, and plays a position that's in higher demand (top 4 RHD compared to a middle 6 forward). That just wouldn't be enough to entice Carolina to make the deal.
23 avr. 2019 à 10 h 27
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Quoting: Ryminister_27
The issue with Kadri is that he's no longer seen as a sure thing to be a top 6 guy on any team. Last summer woulda been more justifiable for that. But right now, as much as he COULD be that, there's not much to back it up. & he certainly doesn't have the value of a top 6 player right now.
1) his production was down this year. 16 goals compared to 32 in each of the last 2 years. Even though he played against weaker opponents this year
2) he has a lengthy suspension/fine history now and at bad times
3) everyone knows Toronto needs to clear cap, you'll never get full value for a guy when the entire league knows that.

Even at full value, Kadri and a 2nd is still a bit off for Pesce. Pesce is younger, on a better contract, and plays a position that's in higher demand (top 4 RHD compared to a middle 6 forward). That just wouldn't be enough to entice Carolina to make the deal.


Quoting: SammyT_51
Top-6 two way centerman with scoring qualities able to play against top lines of opposition on a great contract is really high value. Also top-60 pick is big thing too, especially if its 2020 pick which is deeep draft. Pesce is amazing, I would love to stitch his name on Leafs jersey with no2 on below the name and play him with Rielly. That trade would be fair for both sides. Kadri would be great acquisition to any team.



Let's keep it nice and simple, no picks. How about this?
To TOR:
Pesce
Saarela

To CAR:
Kadri
Kapanen (RFA rights)
23 avr. 2019 à 11 h 23
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Kadri is not worth that much
23 avr. 2019 à 11 h 28
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Quoting: KoneDome
Let's keep it nice and simple, no picks. How about this?
To TOR:
Pesce
Saarela

To CAR:
Kadri
Kapanen (RFA rights)


Toronto passes. I highly doubt they move Kapanen, they had their chance at the deadline and didn't move him. If they do I think they've set a high cost for him. Pesce could be in that mix but he isn't worth 2 roster forwards. Saarela is a long shot to make the NHL. Has the skill but lacks motivation at times and has glaring defensive upgrades to make. Wouldn't really consider him much interest to Toronto.

If it's Pesce coming to Toronto it won't be this summer, it'll most likely be next summer because of the cap. Right now I'd look at fair value something like this:

Toronto Maple Leafs
Brett Pesce
Carolina 5th round pick

Carolina Hurricanes
Kasperi Kapanen
Toronto 2nd round pick (conditional to a 1st possibly depending on the prospect involved)
C+/B- prospect (could be Jesper Lindgren, SDA, Dmytro Timashov, or someone else in that range)
23 avr. 2019 à 12 h 58
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Quoting: KoneDome
Let's keep it nice and simple, no picks. How about this?
To TOR:
Pesce
Saarela

To CAR:
Kadri
Kapanen (RFA rights)


Make the trade call.
 
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