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Créé par: Maniac23
Date de création initiale: avr 23, 2019
Publié: 23 avr 2019 à 8 h 39
Équipe: 2019-20 Bruins de Boston
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
Shen, Pavel3850 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
Carlo, Brandon74 500 000 $
McAvoy, Charlie66 875 000 $
Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob2900 000 $
Cehlárik, Peter2900 000 $
Gusev, Nikita24 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Acciari, Noel1975 000 $
Transactions
BOS
  1. Gusev, Nikita [Droits de RFA]
  2. 2019 5e round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Zboril, Jakub
  2. Heinen, Danton [Droits de RFA]
  3. 2020 2e round pick (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
  • Dennis Seidenberg: 1 166 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Matt Beleskey: 1 900 000 $ (50%)
  • David Backes: 1 500 000 $ (25%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
BOS
BOS
NYR
VGK
BOS
NYR
2020
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
2021
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
BOS
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2483 000 000 $82 215 834 $0 $2 337 500 $784 166 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
BOS
Marchand, Brad
6 125 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
BOS
Bergeron, Patrice
6 875 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
BOS
Pastrnak, David
6 666 667 $
AD
UFA - 4
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
863 333 $
AG
RFA - 1
BOS
Krejci, David
7 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
Gusev, Nikita
4 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
BOS
Cehlárik, Peter
900 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
BOS
Studnicka, Jack
769 167 $
AD, C
RFA - 3
BOS
Coyle, Charlie
3 200 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 1
BOS
Kuraly, Sean
1 275 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
BOS
Acciari, Noel
975 000 $
AD, C
NTC
UFA - 3
BOS
Wagner, Chris
1 250 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
BOS
Chara, Zdeno
2 000 000 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 1
BOS
McAvoy, Charlie
6 875 000 $
DD
RFA - 3
BOS
Rask, Tuukka
7 000 000 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Krug, Torey
5 250 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 1
BOS
Carlo, Brandon
4 500 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
BOS
Halák, Jaroslav
2 750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
BOS
Grzelcyk, Matt
1 400 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
BOS
Miller, Kevan
2 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
BOS
Nordström, Joakim
1 000 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
BOS
Backes, David
4 500 000 $
C, AD
NTC
UFA - 2
BOS
Kuhlman, Karson
750 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
BOS
Moore, John
2 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
BOS
Clifton, Connor
725 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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23 avr 2019 à 12 h 22
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I don't see why Boston does this. Heinen has looked good playing with Bergy/Marchy and is only 23yr old.
23 avr 2019 à 12 h 41
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Quoting: ON3M4N
I don't see why Boston does this. Heinen has looked good playing with Bergy/Marchy and is only 23yr old.


Heinen is very inconsistent and no top 6 material. He has his moments, but he isn't untouchable in Boston. Gusev did amazing things in Russia, he could become a 2nd Panarin! Gusev would fix the weak point of this Boston team. Krejci and DeBrusk played with 10+ guys this season...
23 avr 2019 à 12 h 52
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Quoting: Maniac23
Heinen is very inconsistent and no top 6 material. He has his moments, but he isn't untouchable in Boston. Gusev did amazing things in Russia, he could become a 2nd Panarin! Gusev would fix the weak point of this Boston team. Krejci and DeBrusk played with 10+ guys this season...


You overpaid for an unproven player. He could be the next Panarin or he could be just another Russian who comes to the NHL, fails and bolts. Seems like this scenario you're banking on him being a stud NHLer. Both scenarios are possible, especially since he hasn't played a sniff here. If you're giving up all these assets, I'd hope its for more of a sure thing.
23 avr 2019 à 13 h 27
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Quoting: Maniac23
Heinen is very inconsistent and no top 6 material. He has his moments, but he isn't untouchable in Boston. Gusev did amazing things in Russia, he could become a 2nd Panarin! Gusev would fix the weak point of this Boston team. Krejci and DeBrusk played with 10+ guys this season...


A lot of his inconsistency is because Boston uses him with so many different linemates. He's played on every single line this year and had at least over a dozen different linemates. Gusev is a massive unknown who could be anything from HOFer to couldn't make it. With Heinen you know at worst you have a 40pt winger that plays a smart 200ft game and again that's at worst. Kids only 23yrs old and still developing.

Heinen at age 22/23 - 154 GP / 81 Pts
Marchy at age 22/23 - 153 GP / 96 Pts

Is Heinen going to be Marchand? probably not, but it just goes to show that players that young are not even close to being fully developed into the player they'll become.
23 avr 2019 à 14 h 56
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Quoting: BreKel
You overpaid for an unproven player. He could be the next Panarin or he could be just another Russian who comes to the NHL, fails and bolts. Seems like this scenario you're banking on him being a stud NHLer. Both scenarios are possible, especially since he hasn't played a sniff here. If you're giving up all these assets, I'd hope its for more of a sure thing.


I say sometimes you need to risk something... If it costs us Heinen and Zboril, I would take the risk. If it costs us more, no thank you!
Important are also the terms of Gusev's contract... 4Mx2 is a good deal, it doesn't ruin Boston's future if it doesn't work out. That's my opinion...
23 avr 2019 à 15 h 12
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Quoting: ON3M4N
A lot of his inconsistency is because Boston uses him with so many different linemates. He's played on every single line this year and had at least over a dozen different linemates. Gusev is a massive unknown who could be anything from HOFer to couldn't make it. With Heinen you know at worst you have a 40pt winger that plays a smart 200ft game and again that's at worst. Kids only 23yrs old and still developing.

Heinen at age 22/23 - 154 GP / 81 Pts
Marchy at age 22/23 - 153 GP / 96 Pts

Is Heinen going to be Marchand? probably not, but it just goes to show that players that young are not even close to being fully developed into the player they'll become.


I get your point of view and I don't say your wrong... Your'e probably right. The thing is: Bergeron is 33 years old, I say the window for Boston is closing in 1-2 years... The Bruins need to take some risks! There are 5/6 perfect top 6 players in Boston, one part is missing, the 2nd line RW.
I say if Vegas accepts this offer, take it and run as far as you can! What are the other options?
-Sign Panarin for ~10M
-Simmonds, Ferland? No thank you
-Eberle? I like him but he probably asks for ~6M?!
-Trading for someone else... Whom? To which price?

I say there are other options than Gusev, but I have the feeling he could be the best one... Vegas resigned Tuch, Stone, Pacioretty, Schmidt and has to resign W. Karlsson, too... Maybe they want him to leave...
23 avr 2019 à 16 h 02
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Quoting: Maniac23
I get your point of view and I don't say your wrong... Your'e probably right. The thing is: Bergeron is 33 years old, I say the window for Boston is closing in 1-2 years... The Bruins need to take some risks! There are 5/6 perfect top 6 players in Boston, one part is missing, the 2nd line RW.
I say if Vegas accepts this offer, take it and run as far as you can! What are the other options?
-Sign Panarin for ~10M
-Simmonds, Ferland? No thank you
-Eberle? I like him but he probably asks for ~6M?!
-Trading for someone else... Whom? To which price?

I say there are other options than Gusev, but I have the feeling he could be the best one... Vegas resigned Tuch, Stone, Pacioretty, Schmidt and has to resign W. Karlsson, too... Maybe they want him to leave...


If you believe the bolded then doesn't it make more sense to get a bonafide #2RW vs a scratch ticket in Gusev. Better yet, while playing on the top line during the regular season Heinen was nearly a P/GP player. You also have Bjork (who Bergy is a big fan of) and Senyshyn who are in the system.

As for who else you could trade for...

Tyler Toffoli since 2016 ranks 36th in scoring among RW's. Is he the missing piece? I don't think so, but he's an option and has produced like a #2RW the last 3 years. He's owed $4.6 million next season and then he's a UFA. If LAK is looking to rebuild then maybe he's an option...or maybe you go after a guy like Kovy and see what it would take.
23 avr 2019 à 16 h 35
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Quoting: ON3M4N
If you believe the bolded then doesn't it make more sense to get a bonafide #2RW vs a scratch ticket in Gusev. Better yet, while playing on the top line during the regular season Heinen was nearly a P/GP player. You also have Bjork (who Bergy is a big fan of) and Senyshyn who are in the system.

As for who else you could trade for...

Tyler Toffoli since 2016 ranks 36th in scoring among RW's. Is he the missing piece? I don't think so, but he's an option and has produced like a #2RW the last 3 years. He's owed $4.6 million next season and then he's a UFA. If LAK is looking to rebuild then maybe he's an option...or maybe you go after a guy like Kovy and see what it would take.


Scratch ticket? Gusev is a P/GP player in the KHL... The last 3 seasons he was well over a P/GP. I know KHL hockey isn't NHL hockey, but Gusev is a skilled guy! Even if he doesn't join Boston, I bet he'll prove you wrong next season! I think he is NHL material! I say he will score 50 pts in 80 games!

About Heinen... Yes he had over 40 pts last season and 34 this year. He has a solid 200ft game and he just isn't a highlight-reel player. But I don't know, sometimes he looks so bad. I don't see him being a consistent NHL player. Don't like his shot as well...

I'm not a big fan of Toffoli tbh. He would be a cheap tdl aquisition, just like Johansson was this year... I don't like this trades so much... Maybe it's just me...
23 avr 2019 à 17 h 27
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Quoting: Maniac23
Scratch ticket? Gusev is a P/GP player in the KHL... The last 3 seasons he was well over a P/GP. I know KHL hockey isn't NHL hockey, but Gusev is a skilled guy! Even if he doesn't join Boston, I bet he'll prove you wrong next season! I think he is NHL material! I say he will score 50 pts in 80 games!

About Heinen... Yes he had over 40 pts last season and 34 this year. He has a solid 200ft game and he just isn't a highlight-reel player. But I don't know, sometimes he looks so bad. I don't see him being a consistent NHL player. Don't like his shot as well...

I'm not a big fan of Toffoli tbh. He would be a cheap tdl aquisition, just like Johansson was this year... I don't like this trades so much... Maybe it's just me...


Don't give a crap what someone does in the KHL. Kovy was over a P/GP player in the KHL as well...he didn't have a great year when he came back.

Here's another reason I don't put much into KHL number.

Nigel Dawes ranks 2nd in the KHL in points, yet in the NHL he was bounced between the AHL and NHL for 5-6 years

Grigorenko ranks 10th in KHL scoring (just shy of a p/gp player) and he was awful in the NHL.

How about Shipachyov, who is 3rd in scoring. He came over, played 3 games and left. Vegas even let him and his agent talk to teams about a trade and no one wanted him.

And yea the kid is a scratch ticket because you have no idea what your going to get from him. Could be a loser or could hit the jackpot.
23 avr 2019 à 17 h 53
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Don't give a crap what someone does in the KHL. Kovy was over a P/GP player in the KHL as well...he didn't have a great year when he came back.

Here's another reason I don't put much into KHL number.

Nigel Dawes ranks 2nd in the KHL in points, yet in the NHL he was bounced between the AHL and NHL for 5-6 years

Grigorenko ranks 10th in KHL scoring (just shy of a p/gp player) and he was awful in the NHL.

How about Shipachyov, who is 3rd in scoring. He came over, played 3 games and left. Vegas even let him and his agent talk to teams about a trade and no one wanted him.

And yea the kid is a scratch ticket because you have no idea what your going to get from him. Could be a loser or could hit the jackpot.


Well I give you the credit for doing some research and bringing up examples!

To be fair, Kovalchuk is 35 years old and on a bad team, plus has the league become very fast. Too fast for Kovalchuk!
Dawes and Shipachyov are over 30 as well, and in a slower league on a good team they perform very well. For Grigorenko it didn't work out in North America, fair enough!

But Gusev is 26 years old! Give him some time and he will adjust, my opinion! Of course I don't know anything about his personal stuff... Is he "ready" to leave Russia? Language issues? Cultural differences?

Offtopic-sentence: I'm a European as well, I speak 4 languages... Some of the North American hockey players that come here have cultural/language issues as well and don't perform sufficient. However, most of us Europeans speak more than ONE language, not sure if Americans are that silver-tongued....
23 avr 2019 à 18 h 14
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Quoting: Maniac23
Well I give you the credit for doing some research and bringing up examples!

To be fair, Kovalchuk is 35 years old and on a bad team, plus has the league become very fast. Too fast for Kovalchuk!
Dawes and Shipachyov are over 30 as well, and in a slower league on a good team they perform very well. For Grigorenko it didn't work out in North America, fair enough!

But Gusev is 26 years old! Give him some time and he will adjust, my opinion! Of course I don't know anything about his personal stuff... Is he "ready" to leave Russia? Language issues? Cultural differences?

Offtopic-sentence: I'm a European as well, I speak 4 languages... Some of the North American hockey players that come here have cultural/language issues as well and don't perform sufficient. However, most of us Europeans speak more than ONE language, not sure if Americans are that silver-tongued....


Dawes was in his 20's when he was you and Ship was 31yr old .
Btw you know Gusev signed a deal with Vegas right?
23 avr 2019 à 18 h 23
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Quoting: ON3M4N
Dawes was in his 20's when he was you and Ship was 31yr old .
Btw you know Gusev signed a deal with Vegas right?


Gusev signed an ELC for the 18/19 season. He is a RFA this summer. I offered Heinen and Zboril for him.
I'm perfectly fine with your opinion btw, but I say Gusev will do very well in the NHL!
23 avr 2019 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: Maniac23
Gusev signed an ELC for the 18/19 season. He is a RFA this summer. I offered Heinen and Zboril for him.
I'm perfectly fine with your opinion btw, but I say Gusev will do very well in the NHL!


He very well could do well and I hope he does. At the end of the day though he's still an unknown
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