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Some new approaches to old ideas

Créé par: TanSor
Date de création initiale: avr 13, 2019
Publié: 13 avr 2019 à 14 h 46
Équipe: 2019-20 Wild du Minnesota
Explications
Russo has said Fenton really wants Pavelski. I have my doubts he'd come here, but I suppose there's always a chance.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
Donato, Ryan22 500 000 $
Fiala, Kevin23 000 000 $
Sturm, Nico21 000 000 $
Belpedio, Louis11 000 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Pavelski, Joe37 500 000 $
Transactions
MIN
  1. Nylander, William
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
TOR
  1. Spurgeon, Jared (1 000 000 $ retained)
  2. Eriksson Ek, Joel [Droits de RFA]
MIN
  1. 2019 1e round pick (CAR)
  2. 2019 3e round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Zucker, Jason
Rachats de contrats
  • Tyler Ennis: 1 216 667 $
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Jared Spurgeon: 1 000 000 $ (19,28%)
  • Devan Dubnyk: 2 166 666 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2019
MIN
CAR
MIN
MIN
CAR
BOS
WSH
MIN
VGK
MIN
2020
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
WPG
2021
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
MIN
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2283 000 000 $80 170 121 $0 $1 100 000 $2 829 879 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
MIN
Fiala, Kevin
3 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
TOR
Nylander, William
6 962 366 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
MIN
Donato, Ryan
2 500 000 $
AG, C
RFA - 2
MIN
Parise, Zach
7 538 461 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Staal, Eric
3 250 000 $
C
NTC
UFA - 2
Pavelski, Joe
7 500 000 $
AD, C
NMC
UFA - 3
MIN
Greenway, Jordan
916 666 $
AG, AD
RFA - 1
MIN
Koivu, Mikko
5 500 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
MIN
Kunin, Luke
925 000 $
AD, C
RFA - 1
MIN
Foligno, Marcus
2 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
MIN
Sturm, Nico
1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
MIN
Rask, Victor
4 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
MIN
Suter, Ryan
7 538 461 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 6
MIN
Dumba, Matt
6 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
MIN
Dubnyk, Devan
2 166 667 $
G
NTC
UFA - 2
MIN
Brodin, Jonas
4 166 667 $
DG
UFA - 2
TOR
Zaitsev, Nikita
4 500 000 $
DD
NTC
UFA - 5
MIN
Stalock, Alex
785 000 $
G
UFA - 3
MIN
Seeler, Nick
725 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
MIN
Pateryn, Greg
2 250 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
MIN
Brown, J.T.
687 500 $
AD
UFA - 1
MIN
Belpedio, Louis
1 000 000 $
DD
RFA - 1

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13 avr 2019 à 14 h 49
#1
Danes1294
Rejoint: mar 2019
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Adding a 2nd round pick from Minnesota might make it a little less insulting to Dubas
13 avr 2019 à 14 h 53
#2
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If you're instantly making Nylander you're 1C that adds quite a bit of value to the deal. If it has to be Spurgeon in the deal, it starts with a guaranteed extension as part of the deal. I'd still think Toronto targets Dumba over Spurgeon though cause Dumbas fits that age of the core better and is signed longer at a better AAV. But then you're probably adding in a 2nd rounder and another prospect. Toronto would add more too, it'd be more of a blockbuster type of deal. But getting a 1C is a lot harder than finding a d-man that's likely at best a #2, but realistically a #3 guy
13 avr 2019 à 14 h 56
#3
MNBassman
Rejoint: mai 2015
Messages: 5,683
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Quoting: Danes1294
Adding a 2nd round pick from Minnesota might make it a little less insulting to Dubas


There is absolutely nothing insulting about this offer to the Leafs! Nothing!
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13 avr 2019 à 14 h 57
#4
MNBassman
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Quoting: jonesryan
If you're instantly making Nylander you're 1C that adds quite a bit of value to the deal. If it has to be Spurgeon in the deal, it starts with a guaranteed extension as part of the deal. I'd still think Toronto targets Dumba over Spurgeon though cause Dumbas fits that age of the core better and is signed longer at a better AAV. But then you're probably adding in a 2nd rounder and another prospect. Toronto would add more too, it'd be more of a blockbuster type of deal. But getting a 1C is a lot harder than finding a d-man that's likely at best a #2, but realistically a #3 guy


Who are you calling a #2 or #3 guy??? Dumba and Spurgeon are both 100% legit top pairing RHDs.
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13 avr 2019 à 14 h 59
#5
Rejoint: mar 2018
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Quoting: MNBassman
Who are you calling a #2 or #3 guy??? Dumba and Spurgeon are both 100% legit top pairing RHDs.


... both can't be a true #1 if the're both "top pairing guys".. they're top pairing guys on Minnesota, doesn't mean they're top pairing guys everywhere which doesn't make them a true #1. They wouldn't be a #1 on Toronto either. Rielly is. Therefore, they're both either a #2 or #3 guy.
13 avr 2019 à 15 h 05
#6
MNBassman
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This is probably the perfect summer for Fenton! Adding a "now" piece in Pavelski a "now and future" piece in Nylander, getting younger on the blue line, and getting rid of Zucker. However, Zaitzev might be adding too much to his value for his playoff performance, so far...but (IMO) Ek is a very nice piece going back the other way to make this equitable. In fact, I really don't know if I love this trade because he is involved...but, would definitely give it a lot of consideration. As you know, I like Ek's future a lot! I know Fenton would never do this, but I would prefer to include Fiala in this deal over Ek. I simply do not like ANY player with effort issues...regardless of how talented they might be...

It will be interesting to see how the Leafs do in the playoffs...that will (obviously) have a big say in what they end up doing this summer...
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13 avr 2019 à 15 h 07
#7
MNBassman
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Quoting: jonesryan
... both can't be a true #1 if the're both "top pairing guys".. they're top pairing guys on Minnesota, doesn't mean they're top pairing guys everywhere which doesn't make them a true #1. They wouldn't be a #1 on Toronto either. Rielly is. Therefore, they're both either a #2 or #3 guy.


By your logic, there would only be ONE #1 D in the world...

You need to know more about Dumba and Spurgeon before you make comments like this! They are both bonafide, legitimate, top pairing defenseman. Reilly is very, very good...I agree...but these two are his equals.
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13 avr 2019 à 15 h 16
#8
Démarrer sujet
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Quoting: MNBassman
This is probably the perfect summer for Fenton! Adding a "now" piece in Pavelski a "now and future" piece in Nylander, getting younger on the blue line, and getting rid of Zucker. However, Zaitzev might be adding too much to his value for his playoff performance, so far...but (IMO) Ek is a very nice piece going back the other way to make this equitable. In fact, I really don't know if I love this trade because he is involved...but, would definitely give it a lot of consideration. As you know, I like Ek's future a lot! I know Fenton would never do this, but I would prefer to include Fiala in this deal over Ek. I simply do not like ANY player with effort issues...regardless of how talented they might be...

It will be interesting to see how the Leafs do in the playoffs...that will (obviously) have a big say in what they end up doing this summer...


I agree Ek showed a ton of potential towards the end of the year. I think there's a good chance he could be a Koivu replacement after all. That said we need offense and I don't think Ek will ever be that guy. I would ultimately like to keep him but if he can land us Nylander then I say we do it.

On a side note, the lack of knowledge around the league about how good Spurgeon is is extremely frustrating. He'd easily become the Leafs best defensemen (defensively speaking)
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13 avr 2019 à 15 h 59
#9
MNBassman
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Quoting: TanSor
I agree Ek showed a ton of potential towards the end of the year. I think there's a good chance he could be a Koivu replacement after all. That said we need offense and I don't think Ek will ever be that guy. I would ultimately like to keep him but if he can land us Nylander then I say we do it.

On a side note, the lack of knowledge around the league about how good Spurgeon is is extremely frustrating. He'd easily become the Leafs best defensemen (defensively speaking)


I'm not ready to give up on Ek has having some offensive punch yet. I think he can become a 20 goal guy. Time will tell...

I completely agree with you about Spurgeon!
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