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A Great Team We have to Overpay to get what we want

Créé par: OilersMcRockin
Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 2 mars 2019
Publié: 2 mars 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Now Technically I am Over cap, but the NHL has hinted that the cap is going up, which is awesome. And then you have alot of trashy players that you dont need to resign that will leave with money in your pocket. I have also Calculated that 6827000 will be available from pending free agents in our farm and players. RESIGN EVERBODY WHO IS A FREE AGENT OR A RFA ON THE TEAM I'VE CREATED
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Dzingel, Ryan
54 000 000 $
Zuccarello, Matts
35 500 000 $
Kempe, Mario
1750 000 $
Transactions
1.
CAR
  1. Lucic, Milan
  2. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
2.
WPG
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
3.
MIN
  1. Maksimov, Kirill
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
  3. Choix de 7e ronde en 2021 (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (BOS)
Rachats de contrats
Enfoui
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
2019
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2020
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de BOS
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
2021
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
Logo de EDM
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2282 000 000 $87 775 749 $0 $850 000 $-5 775 749 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Jets de Winnipeg
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
C
UFA - 8
Dzingel, Ryan
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
Logo de Wild du Minnesota
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 7
Zuccarello, Matts
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 835 000 $2 835 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
675 000 $675 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
675 000 $675 000 $
C
RFA - 2
Kempe, Mario
750 000 $750 000 $
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 950 000 $1 950 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DG/DD
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
761 250 $761 250 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
700 000 $700 000 $
DG
UFA - 1

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2 mars 2019 à 15 h 42
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I don't think any of those get accepted. Some are just insulting.
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2 mars 2019 à 15 h 43
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Not one of these trades would ever happen, you have to give up something of value for Ehlers or Zucker and you'd have to give up way more for anyone to take Lucic.
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2 mars 2019 à 15 h 53
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Zucc signing in Edmonton hahahhahahahaha
2 mars 2019 à 16 h 13
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What in tarnation
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"We have to overpay to get what we want"

Dude, all of these are bad underpayments.
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2 mars 2019 à 16 h 36
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Lol, you think you these are overpayments? They are ripoffs. Jesus. shakes head
2 mars 2019 à 16 h 44
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Big John T
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You're stuck with Lucic barring a minor miracle where he wants to leave and join the very team that wants him at his full $6 million cap hit

4 more years, and then the Oilers can start fresh with a 27 year old McDavid hoping to win his first playoff game and start growing again

Optimistically:
$6 million with a cap increase of $3 million per year (the increases have been steady even though revenues have been lagging and the escrow clawbacks climbing)
2019: 6 / 82.5 = 7.27%
2020: 6/85.5 = 7.02%
2021: 6/88.5 = 6.78% *8 team trade list
2022-2023: 6/91.5 = 6.56% **10 team trade list

Those final 2 years will have the Oilers paying purely to dump his cap hit.
Any forward earning more than 5% of the cap must be playing in the top 6 and special teams to deserve it.
Lucic's decline will accelerate given his age + weight + the reffing is allowing a faster game.


Bide your time, encourage him to be a good teammate that looks out for the younger kids.
Bank a bunch of prospects. If you're lucky, Lucic will agree to a trade to a team willing to rent out their cap space for prospects.
If you're really lucky, you can LTIR him for life but there's no advantage doing that before the 2021 season as there are other bad contracts like Russell and there's no buildup of prospects waiting to rush in.

p.s.
This roster is at $88 million for next season. The Oilers are so screwed it would actually make sense to trade McDavid. Imagine if the Penguins were trying to now win their first cup with Crosby -- and he's got a 13 year contract that's not allowed today that softens his cap hit.

Toronto would have in the past entertained McDavid for Matthews straight up, and the Oilers could have flipped Matthews to Arizona for a truckload of picks and prospects.
McDavid may be worth his money but it's a short list of teams that have the cap room and flexibility with NTCs to take him on today.

I'd phone Joe Sakic in Colorado if they win the draft lottery with Ottawa's pick. Especially if there's a lockout coming, McDavid and Draisatl get paid no matter what, and the Oilers are already having trouble renewing seasons tickets with an expensive brand new stadium during an oil slump.
Jack Hughes + Tyson Jost + Nicolas Meloche + 3x COL 1st = 6 first round picks, 21 and under today = at least 4 NHLers hitting their prime when Lucic and Russell leave

That's just McDavid, you could dump Draisatl in NJ or NYI. Or you can hold on for 4 years and have a team that's not as good as if you had been bold
2 mars 2019 à 17 h 37
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1) these trades are all underpayments

2) you are already over the cap by a lot and you still need to consider that koskinen is getting a 2M raise next year

3) you couldve just chose 19-20 instead of 18-19
2 mars 2019 à 17 h 42
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Quoting: tatatavares
You're stuck with Lucic barring a minor miracle where he wants to leave and join the very team that wants him at his full $6 million cap hit

4 more years, and then the Oilers can start fresh with a 27 year old McDavid hoping to win his first playoff game and start growing again

Optimistically:
$6 million with a cap increase of $3 million per year (the increases have been steady even though revenues have been lagging and the escrow clawbacks climbing)
2019: 6 / 82.5 = 7.27%
2020: 6/85.5 = 7.02%
2021: 6/88.5 = 6.78% *8 team trade list
2022-2023: 6/91.5 = 6.56% **10 team trade list

Those final 2 years will have the Oilers paying purely to dump his cap hit.
Any forward earning more than 5% of the cap must be playing in the top 6 and special teams to deserve it.
Lucic's decline will accelerate given his age + weight + the reffing is allowing a faster game.


Bide your time, encourage him to be a good teammate that looks out for the younger kids.
Bank a bunch of prospects. If you're lucky, Lucic will agree to a trade to a team willing to rent out their cap space for prospects.
If you're really lucky, you can LTIR him for life but there's no advantage doing that before the 2021 season as there are other bad contracts like Russell and there's no buildup of prospects waiting to rush in.

p.s.
This roster is at $88 million for next season. The Oilers are so screwed it would actually make sense to trade McDavid. Imagine if the Penguins were trying to now win their first cup with Crosby -- and he's got a 13 year contract that's not allowed today that softens his cap hit.

Toronto would have in the past entertained McDavid for Matthews straight up, and the Oilers could have flipped Matthews to Arizona for a truckload of picks and prospects.
McDavid may be worth his money but it's a short list of teams that have the cap room and flexibility with NTCs to take him on today.

I'd phone Joe Sakic in Colorado if they win the draft lottery with Ottawa's pick. Especially if there's a lockout coming, McDavid and Draisatl get paid no matter what, and the Oilers are already having trouble renewing seasons tickets with an expensive brand new stadium during an oil slump.
Jack Hughes + Tyson Jost + Nicolas Meloche + 3x COL 1st = 6 first round picks, 21 and under today = at least 4 NHLers hitting their prime when Lucic and Russell leave

That's just McDavid, you could dump Draisatl in NJ or NYI. Or you can hold on for 4 years and have a team that's not as good as if you had been bold


If the Avs get Hughes I would not trade him in a package for McDavid. Hughes for 3 years on an ELC is too valuable for a team who would be looking to open their cup contending window. McDavid's cap hit would limit any other major additions also
 
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