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(OTT/VGK) - Stone for Brännström, Lindberg, 2nd round.

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28 févr. 2019 à 20 h 6
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Ottawa has that core + those prospects +
15-30 overall this year
2 2nds 2019
Top 10 pick 2020
San Jose 1st round 2020
3 2nds 2020

If Ottawa can draft and develop as well as Toronto did, they can very well end up like them if not better.


So your 15-30th + 1-10th + 20-30th are gonna turn into:

Matthews | 1st Overall
Tavares | 1st Overall
Marner | 4th Overall
Nylander | 8th Overall


KK sounds good.
28 févr. 2019 à 22 h 28
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Quoting: drewjenks
So your 15-30th + 1-10th + 20-30th are gonna turn into:

Matthews | 1st Overall
Tavares | 1st Overall
Marner | 4th Overall
Nylander | 8th Overall


KK sounds good.


Yep.
2 mars 2019 à 20 h 34
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Yep.


Fair enough.
2 mars 2019 à 20 h 43
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
How good is Brannstrom? I know he's good but it doesn't look like enough for Stone. Maybe i'm undervaluing Brannstrom though.


But it's trade value. Really the trade is the remaining 2018/19 season of Stone for starting next year six years of Brannstrom.(whatever that might be) The extension has really has nothing to do with the trade value. It's actually an old time classic trade. A contender is trading for NOW, a poor team is trading for the future.
If Vegas loses in the first to round, then it is a good trade for Vegas? They could have signed Stone as a UFA in the summer or spend that 9.5m on another UFA.
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Quoting: drewjenks
Fair enough.


The other thing Ottawa has for few years if they decide to use it is cap space. The Leafs in their rebuilt actually took on some bad money short term.
2 mars 2019 à 23 h 54
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Quoting: palhal
But it's trade value. Really the trade is the remaining 2018/19 season of Stone for starting next year six years of Brannstrom.(whatever that might be) The extension has really has nothing to do with the trade value. It's actually an old time classic trade. A contender is trading for NOW, a poor team is trading for the future.
If Vegas loses in the first to round, then it is a good trade for Vegas? They could have signed Stone as a UFA in the summer or spend that 9.5m on another UFA.


I doubt Stone would have signed in Vegas as a UFA if he wasn't traded there.

Could be wrong .... be there's no guarantee .... however, the trade guaranteed Vegas 8+ years of Stone.

So obviously that should be considered when evaluating Ottawa's return .... which wasn't much for a 26 year old PPG + Selke caliber NHL winger.
3 mars 2019 à 0 h 19
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Quoting: palhal
The other thing Ottawa has for few years if they decide to use it is cap space. The Leafs in their rebuilt actually took on some bad money short term.


That's a good way to get mid to late draft picks and young depth prospects.

But it's not going to get you a star player unless you get extremely lucky.

The other question is whether Eugene Melnyk is willing to take on bad contracts in order to get assets.

I'm doubtful unless their on LTIR and insured .... but insured LTIR contracts won't get Ottawa much assets (plenty of non-cap teams would be willing to take them on too).
29 juin 2019 à 3 h 31
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I think the D-man Vegas trade is too small to make it in West at his position... So getting Stone was a win but paying him 9.5M is probably a net loss... AS team is in cap trouble likely to never make playoffs again having 5-6 left shot D-man who are all inferior to Miller who had term/talent w/ a better cap hit than any of their D-men for the value they bring... Senators I think won overall trading away trash players who wanted too much money but will squander it anyways smile...
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29 janv. 2021 à 2 h 10
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Brannstrom is a future #2 defensemen in the league.


Bad take.
29 janv. 2021 à 2 h 21
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Bad take.


He's 21 Years Old. How is that a bad take?
29 janv. 2021 à 2 h 32
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He's 21 Years Old. How is that a bad take?


Because he's not ... he's been a "great prospect" for 4 years now and still can't crack a roster.

Tim Liljegren was better than him last season and he's not even that good.

He's like the Leafs 3rd best defense prospect after Sandin and Neimela.

Neither Liljegren nor Brannstrom will be top pair defensemen.
29 janv. 2021 à 10 h 51
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Quoting: drewjenkins
Because he's not ... he's been a "great prospect" for 4 years now and still can't crack a roster.

Tim Liljegren was better than him last season and he's not even that good.

He's like the Leafs 3rd best defense prospect after Sandin and Neimela.

Neither Liljegren nor Brannstrom will be top pair defensemen.


You expected a 17 YO to crack the roster? This is why I don't normally conversate with you. You're takes are all kinds of awful. Just stop please.
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29 janv. 2021 à 22 h 27
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You expected a 17 YO to crack the roster? This is why I don't normally conversate with you. You're takes are all kinds of awful. Just stop please.


Who said anything about 17 years old?

I said he was drafted 4 years ago and still can't crack the Ottawa Senators roster (worst defense in the league).

He's also a 5'9 offensive defensman who hasn't been able to score points in the NHL.

He's not a "top-pairing" defensemen.

He might not be an NHL defensemen.
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Looking back at this I laugh
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Looking back at this I laugh


Friendly reminder that even the most hyped prospects bust
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Friendly reminder that even the most hyped prospects bust


Yep
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30 oct. 2021 à 19 h 10
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I openly admit that Ottawa got fleeced in this trade.

Vegas wins.
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22 mars à 18 h 27
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Ottawa wins this trade. Brannstrom is the real deal.


i agree bro
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22 mars à 19 h 16
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i agree bro


At the time I figured Ottawa could develop for half a ****. Not my fault they decided to play 35 YO depth defensemen over him and let him rot on the bench.

Brannstrom was at one point a top 5 defensive prospect in the leaguec
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At the time I figured Ottawa could develop for half a ****. Not my fault they decided to play 35 YO depth defensemen over him and let him rot on the bench.

Brannstrom was at one point a top 5 defensive prospect in the leaguec


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At the time I figured Ottawa could develop for half a ****. Not my fault they decided to play 35 YO depth defensemen over him and let him rot on the bench.

Brannstrom was at one point a top 5 defensive prospect in the leaguec


Wait, you and habs4ever are the same guy?
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Wait, you and habs4ever are the same guy?


Perhaps
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