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6 févr. 2019 à 14 h 4
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There are 22 names on the Cup, it doesn't mean that they are the best 22 players in the league. Doesn't even mean that they are the best 22 players on the roster. And it is 100% irrelevant as to whether someone else could/should bump any of them from the lineup the next year.

If goals were all that mattered, then your Pelly point would be valid. But they don't. So it isn't.

The biggest cliche is that defense wins Cups. So having 7 goals doesn't fit that. Pelly also has a whopping 3 assists in 48 playoff games. You've been reading too much of you know who's posts and drinking the "*insert one stat here* is all that is important" koolade.


Not at all. I’m simply saying don’t diminish the young guys. Also dsp was a hero and fits the narrative of a clutch playoffs guy
6 févr. 2019 à 14 h 34
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This is a fair deal. New Jersey gets a decent pick. And Nashville replaces Watson, who could be out long term. Again, it meets both teams needs.
6 févr. 2019 à 14 h 56
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nice one Shero
6 févr. 2019 à 15 h 56
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This will be a 55ish pick... A lot of people seem to think of a 1st as a top 10 type pick, a 2nd as a #30, etc. #55ish isn't anything all that special.


Even then, I think I would've valued Boyle closer to a pick in the 90-110 range.
6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 13
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Big price for a 4th liner center, Nashville setting the market price early.


Not many 4th line Centers can play the PP and PK and be on pace for 22G, which would be a new career high, btw. Boyle also brings intangible value to the Preds. He's been a constant playoff fixture on several diff teams, brings experience and he's well liked everywhere. NSH desperately needs PP help and Center depth in general. Great pickup for NSH.
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6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 19
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I'd imagine this was a deal where the Devils figured they weren't going to get a better offer for Boyle so they made it today. Seems pretty pricey considering there's going to be a decent sellers market this year.[/quote

Really, I don't see many other Boyle type players being available. It'll be a sellers market this year b/c there are still so many teams who think they can make the playoffs, thus, fewer players will be available. That's what NSH is banking on when they stepped up for Boyle.
6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 23
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I like Boyle. His size and experience will help NSH. NSH also has a need with Watson gone. The price is very steep for a 4th liner...rental...but whatever. NSH as a team is better tomorrow than it was yesterday.


I wish everyone would stop calling him a 4th liner like he's a guy who plays 8-9 mins per night and doesn't really do anything. Boyle is on pace for a career high 22G. He plays big PP and PK minutes. He brings a ton of playoff experience to the table. The market for guys like this is small.
6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 25
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Boyle is not just a "4th liner" though. Heading into the playoff run and playoffs themselves, I would rather have Boyle in the lineup than Boyd, Burakovsky, Dowd, Jaskin, Smith-Pelly, or Stephensen.


None of those names can come anywhere close to Boyle. People get caught up in the numbers, even though Boyle's numbers are better than all those guys, by far. He plays PK and PP, takes huge face offs, and has tons of experience.
6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 27
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Imo just seems like a 3rd could have got him


Obviously they tried to pay only a 3rd rounder!!! Shero would've just held on to him for another couple weeks.
6 févr. 2019 à 17 h 29
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The 2nd round pick has been the price of quality 4Cs for some time now. In fact Boyle was traded for a 2nd round pick 2 years ago. Pleckanec was also also traded for a 2nd last year. Fair deal.


Yes. Exactly. And Boyle is 1000X better than Plecanec. He's more versatile. Much better offensively and on the PP, where NSH is among the league's worst.
6 févr. 2019 à 18 h 4
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Quoting: Brian2016
Not many 4th line Centers can play the PP and PK and be on pace for 22G, which would be a new career high, btw. Boyle also brings intangible value to the Preds. He's been a constant playoff fixture on several diff teams, brings experience and he's well liked everywhere. NSH desperately needs PP help and Center depth in general. Great pickup for NSH.


I agree it helps Nashville. Both teams achieve what they are looking to do. I always seem to side with the team that wins in the long term future. Losing a 4th line 34 YO pending UFA doesn't really do much to NJD and the 2nd should benefit them greatly. Nashville gets their 4th line center and looks solid down the middle now. They are trying to win now and don't sacrifice anything that will help them during their run.
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6 févr. 2019 à 18 h 10
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Obviously they tried to pay only a 3rd rounder!!! Shero would've just held on to him for another couple weeks.


Haha obviously
6 févr. 2019 à 19 h 27
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6 févr. 2019 à 21 h 23
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I agree it helps Nashville. Both teams achieve what they are looking to do. I always seem to side with the team that wins in the long term future. Losing a 4th line 34 YO pending UFA doesn't really do much to NJD and the 2nd should benefit them greatly. Nashville gets their 4th line center and looks solid down the middle now. They are trying to win now and don't sacrifice anything that will help them during their run.


I hear you. But deadline deals always benefit the seller b/c they have nothing to lose, especially if the player is UFA like Boyle. NJD are not making the playoffs and they're actually better off if they lose games down the stretch so selling Boyle is a no-brainer.
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6 févr. 2019 à 21 h 25
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Haha obviously


It's not as obvious to everyone! Do you think Chiarelli tried to pay Koskinen less than $4.5M AAV, or did he just overpay him w/o negotiating? The latter is actually completely plausible. LOL
6 févr. 2019 à 21 h 26
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It's not as obvious to everyone! Do you think Chiarelli tried to pay Koskinen less than $4.5M AAV, or did he just overpay him w/o negotiating? The latter is actually completely plausible. LOL


I assume chiarelli just has a dart board and just throws darts at random number amounts
6 févr. 2019 à 22 h 13
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I assume chiarelli just has a dart board and just throws darts at random number amounts


He's pretty bad at darts, too.
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6 févr. 2019 à 22 h 39
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He's pretty bad at darts, too.


He’s worse at gm
6 févr. 2019 à 22 h 41
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It's not a good deal at all for NSH. But then again, this is the price for these kinds of players in real life.

In the GM game, whoever has Boyle would be lucky to get a 5th for him.
 
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