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TOR Trade

Créé par: canesfan3030
Équipe: 2018-19 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 29 janv. 2019
Publié: 29 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
CAR
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
2019
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Logo de BUF
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2020
Logo de CAR
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Logo de TOR
Logo de CAR
Logo de BUF
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2021
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $63 414 166 $0 $4 802 500 $16 085 834 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 860 000 $2 860 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
887 500 $887 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 800 000 $1 800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance350 000 $$350K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 4
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
715 000 $715 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Hurricanes de la Caroline
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1

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29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 22
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Not enough for both, especially making them take zaitzev
29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 30
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Not enough for both, especially making them take zaitzev


Posted by a canes fan....

Toronto accepts....
29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 35
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I think Toronto is done making major moves. They might make so depth moves but that’s it.
29 janv. 2019 à 19 h 43
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Not enough for Carolina if Ferland is in the deal.
29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 10
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Carolina will be an interesting watch between now and the TDL.

They have pieces on defence a lot of teams covet and forwards on expiring contracts that can be useful pieces for anyone's playoff run....

The bits and pieces I'm hearing in the media (for whatever that's worth), lead me to believe that Waddell is looking for a king's ransom at this point. Latest I heard he's asking for a 1st and young roster player for Ferland.

I think GM's have become more prudent shoppers around TDL in recent years....it's made for boring coverage...but teams aren't blowing their wad on rentals anymore. Probably see deals like Evander Kane's more where picks are conditional on re-signing. I guess we'll see as we get closer to the deadline whether buyers get more desperate or if the Canes opt to salvage what they can from a UFA like Ferland.

I think the trade offer above is fair...but from the sounds of it...I don't think Carolina will be up for this kind of return unless they are in love with the idea of Kapanen.
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29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Posted by a canes fan....

Toronto accepts....


No way man, Kapanen and Zaitsev are combined more valuable than Pesce and Ferland is just a rental. I think this is a short sighted move.
29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 24
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No way man, Kapanen and Zaitsev are combined more valuable than Pesce and Ferland is just a rental. I think this is a short sighted move.


I disagree. I think Pesce and Kapanen are close to even value.

Both players currently in secondary roles on their team's simply due to talent above them. Both have shown signs of promise that they can provide more if given more responsibility.

You have the argument that wingers are less valuable than defencemen...but in this case...Kapanen is currently cheaper and will likely re-sign for less than what Pesce is signed for. He can score, skate and PK with the best of them.

Pesce is a 20pt d-man...it's not exactly inspiring...and I don't think it's fair to expect more than 30-35pt production from him in the future...but he's terrific defensively and can skate well for his size and can move the puck well. He logs 20min a game and can PK and provide a decent shot on the PP.

If we put both up against a wall and did a school yard pick...who would go first? Realistically...a team that needs offence takes Kap first and a team that needs a shut down d-man takes Pesce first. I will say that I think Pesce's value got super inflated on this website when eager-beaver leaf fans were willing to package a 1st, Liljegren and Kapanen for any RH shooting d-man that could play 20min. On most teams, Pesce is best suited on the 2nd pairing...on the leafs...he'd likely be elevated to first line duties beside Rielly...a tandem I think would be very similar to Kane-Seabrook back during Chicago's runs.

If I really had to choose...I'd say Kapanen has a bit more value...but the trade offer as a whole? Moving Zaitsev out and bringing Ferland in? That makes this trade offer a very attractive one for the leafs while filling holes on each team
29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 32
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I disagree. I think Pesce and Kapanen are close to even value.

Both players currently in secondary roles on their team's simply due to talent above them. Both have shown signs of promise that they can provide more if given more responsibility.

You have the argument that wingers are less valuable than defencemen...but in this case...Kapanen is currently cheaper and will likely re-sign for less than what Pesce is signed for. He can score, skate and PK with the best of them.

Pesce is a 20pt d-man...it's not exactly inspiring...and I don't think it's fair to expect more than 30-35pt production from him in the future...but he's terrific defensively and can skate well for his size and can move the puck well. He logs 20min a game and can PK and provide a decent shot on the PP.

If we put both up against a wall and did a school yard pick...who would go first? Realistically...a team that needs offence takes Kap first and a team that needs a shut down d-man takes Pesce first. I will say that I think Pesce's value got super inflated on this website when eager-beaver leaf fans were willing to package a 1st, Liljegren and Kapanen for any RH shooting d-man that could play 20min. On most teams, Pesce is best suited on the 2nd pairing...on the leafs...he'd likely be elevated to first line duties beside Rielly...a tandem I think would be very similar to Kane-Seabrook back during Chicago's runs.

If I really had to choose...I'd say Kapanen has a bit more value...but the trade offer as a whole? Moving Zaitsev out and bringing Ferland in? That makes this trade offer a very attractive one for the leafs while filling holes on each team


That's a good rationale, you replace Zaitsev with Pesce which is an upgrade and then you have Ferland for a playoff run that should be not a big drop off for the Leafs. Maybe take the pick out and I'd feel better about it. Which I know Canes fans are going to lose their minds over, I'm just not at all high on Pesce.
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29 janv. 2019 à 20 h 55
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No way man, Kapanen and Zaitsev are combined more valuable than Pesce and Ferland is just a rental. I think this is a short sighted move.


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
29 janv. 2019 à 21 h 1
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
No way man, Kapanen and Zaitsev are combined more valuable than Pesce and Ferland is just a rental. I think this is a short sighted move.


Quoting: Juice
I disagree. I think Pesce and Kapanen are close to even value.

Both players currently in secondary roles on their team's simply due to talent above them. Both have shown signs of promise that they can provide more if given more responsibility.

You have the argument that wingers are less valuable than defencemen...but in this case...Kapanen is currently cheaper and will likely re-sign for less than what Pesce is signed for. He can score, skate and PK with the best of them.

Pesce is a 20pt d-man...it's not exactly inspiring...and I don't think it's fair to expect more than 30-35pt production from him in the future...but he's terrific defensively and can skate well for his size and can move the puck well. He logs 20min a game and can PK and provide a decent shot on the PP.

If we put both up against a wall and did a school yard pick...who would go first? Realistically...a team that needs offence takes Kap first and a team that needs a shut down d-man takes Pesce first. I will say that I think Pesce's value got super inflated on this website when eager-beaver leaf fans were willing to package a 1st, Liljegren and Kapanen for any RH shooting d-man that could play 20min. On most teams, Pesce is best suited on the 2nd pairing...on the leafs...he'd likely be elevated to first line duties beside Rielly...a tandem I think would be very similar to Kane-Seabrook back during Chicago's runs.

If I really had to choose...I'd say Kapanen has a bit more value...but the trade offer as a whole? Moving Zaitsev out and bringing Ferland in? That makes this trade offer a very attractive one for the leafs while filling holes on each team


Leafs save 3-4m in cap and ice a powerful defence, yes losing kappy would suck, my personal preference would be to receive a young good elc signed till 2020 to replace the loss of Grundstrom rather than ferland.


But to me this is why the leafs say yes.
29 janv. 2019 à 22 h 27
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was playing with something similar, but a little bigger... something centered around Nylander/Zaitsev for Hamilton/Ferland. Cap savings, a quality rental, and a top RD for Toronto. Carolina gets another young top 6, and an RD to offset the loss of Hamilton.
 
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