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Créé par: Poehling
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 6 janv. 2019
Publié: 6 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Montréal don’t have the choice to let go Danault. Brassard will play the rest of the season on the third line and will walks out as UFA at the end of the season. If Poehling stay another year in the NCAA, Nick Suzuki will play on the third line. Maata’s not a Top 2 D.
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Brassard, Derick
  2. Määttä, Olli
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
If Brassard do not resign with Montreal, Montreal getting 2020 first round pick.
2.
MTL
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Montréal buyout Kulikov at the end of the season
WPG
  1. Benn, Jordie
Détails additionnels:
Winnipeg getting a good 3rd pairing LHD who can play on both side. Because this year is a good draft, the pick is from the 2020 draft
3.
MTL
  1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (WSH)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional : if Schlemko play 50% of the playoff games, Montreal receive 2020 6th round pick (WSH)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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650 000 $650 000 $
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UFA - 1
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 18
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You can probably easily get more for Schlemko, he's still a reliable defensive dman that can play top 6 minutes. probably up that to a 4th and a mid tier prospect at best. Winnipeg deal makes some sense, not sure Benn is worth a 2nd but with Winnipeg's impending cap situation you might be able to squeeze out a 2nd to take on Kulikov's contract, but might be more realistic to get a 3rd and a prospect with him instead. Pittsburgh deal makes some sense too, might not include Brassard at all and let Pittsburgh deal him somewhere else. But Matta and a late 1st seem reasonable, maybe a 2nd instead. But overall, your value is close and you have the right idea
6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: jonesryan
You can probably easily get more for Schlemko, he's still a reliable defensive dman that can play top 6 minutes. probably up that to a 4th and a mid tier prospect at best. Winnipeg deal makes some sense, not sure Benn is worth a 2nd but with Winnipeg's impending cap situation you might be able to squeeze out a 2nd to take on Kulikov's contract, but might be more realistic to get a 3rd and a prospect with him instead. Pittsburgh deal makes some sense too, might not include Brassard at all and let Pittsburgh deal him somewhere else. But Matta and a late 1st seem reasonable, maybe a 2nd instead. But overall, your value is close and you have the right idea


Montreal got Armia, a 4th round pick & a 7th round pick to buyout Mason 4.1M. They are getting a good D for a playoff run & getting rid of Kulikov contract. I’m sure they will accept. Montreal will not accept Maata & a late 1st round for Danault. Nobody can play the role he is playing right now. That’s why we need a 3C. Schlemko he’s not worth a 4th sorry. Not even a 5th
6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 30
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The caps def take that. Can't have too much depth.
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 30
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That pens trade is awful I woudk do a 2nd and make it a first under conditions and that’s all leave out Marta and brassard
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 34
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pens say no man. maatta for danault straight up could be entertained but seriously its a bad trade.
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 36
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Quoting: MTF
pens say no man. maatta for danault straight up could be entertained but seriously its a bad trade.


Maata for Danault 1 on 1 impossible Montreal accepts. So far off, Maata’s not that good.
6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: Poehling
Maata for Danault 1 on 1 impossible Montreal accepts. So far off, Maata’s not that good.


fair enough, then its not a match and theres not a trade to be had here. im just telling you this trade is VERY unfavorable to pittsburgh.
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 43
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Quoting: MTF
fair enough, then its not a match and theres not a trade to be had here. im just telling you this trade is VERY unfavorable to pittsburgh.


What about Brassard & 2019 2rd pick, if Brassard do not resign with MTL, MTL got 2020 1st round pick instead of the 2019 2rd pick
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 44
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What about Brassard & 2019 2rd pick, if Brassard do not resign with MTL, MTL got 2020 1st round pick instead of the 2019 2rd pick


sold.
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6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 47
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Quoting: MTF
sold.


Bergevin will never accept that but if I was him I’ll do it. Maybe a B prospect and he might consider it. Nice talk man !
6 janv. 2019 à 16 h 52
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I don't think pitsburgh accepts


I would counter with maata sheahan and rust

Honesty I would just keep danault
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6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 27
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Maata for Danault 1 on 1 impossible Montreal accepts. So far off, Maata’s not that good.


He’d be the best LHD on the Habs
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6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 27
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No way Pittsburgh accepts that trade. Danault is good but that’s 3 pieces for a 3C. I’d rather have brassard than danault anyway if brassard had term
6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 52
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He’d be the best LHD on the Habs


Mete > Maata
6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 56
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Mete > Maata


Lmao definitely not. Maatta is a lot better than people give him credit. Maybe one day mete will be better but not yet
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6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 58
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Quoting: MTF
pens say no man. maatta for danault straight up could be entertained but seriously its a bad trade.


Habs laugh if it's Danault for Maata
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6 janv. 2019 à 17 h 59
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Bergevin will never accept that but if I was him I’ll do it. Maybe a B prospect and he might consider it. Nice talk man !


No. Danault is very Crucial to this team. When we get a replacement, he can become expendable (Poehling in a year or two most likely). Unless it's a serious overpay, Danault should stay.
6 janv. 2019 à 18 h 2
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Habs laugh if it's Danault for Maata


Most bias person on this site haha
7 janv. 2019 à 0 h 19
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I don't think pitsburgh accepts


I would counter with maata sheahan and rust

Honesty I would just keep danault


There is no way the Pens would accept that, it's just as bad maybe worse. Rust is a top 6 forward. Maatta has played well as a 2nd pairing guy.
7 janv. 2019 à 0 h 22
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I don't see the penguins giving up a 1st. I know they are in win now mode, but they could be there for another 3 years and they need young cheap depth down the road.
It's much more likely they trade out a few pieces and some depth at defense.
I also think the major piece they are looking to fill is LW. I would be nice to get a 3C for the future, but you might have to wait till after this year to make that trade.
7 janv. 2019 à 7 h 56
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There is no way the Pens would accept that, it's just as bad maybe worse. Rust is a top 6 forward. Maatta has played well as a 2nd pairing guy.


so you would rather give brassard a 1st and maata over rust maatta and sheahan
7 janv. 2019 à 18 h 38
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so you would rather give brassard a 1st and maata over rust maatta and sheahan


honestly yes, Rust has more value to us than brassard and has several years of being a top 6 forward for us ahead of him, out of all the players listed in either of those trades he'd be the best one leaving our team. Brass isnt coming back next year pretty much no matter what we do. sheahan I dont care about. Losing Maatta hurts us a lot in both trades. No way pittsburgh feels inclined to send more than just maatta and maybe a 2nd or third. and no way do we trade 3 starting players for 1 when depth wins cups and depth has been our biggest issue
7 janv. 2019 à 19 h 5
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honestly yes, Rust has more value to us than brassard and has several years of being a top 6 forward for us ahead of him, out of all the players listed in either of those trades he'd be the best one leaving our team. Brass isnt coming back next year pretty much no matter what we do. sheahan I dont care about. Losing Maatta hurts us a lot in both trades. No way pittsburgh feels inclined to send more than just maatta and maybe a 2nd or third. and no way do we trade 3 starting players for 1 when depth wins cups and depth has been our biggest issue


ok
7 janv. 2019 à 19 h 37
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ok


its important to remember the value of a player changes depending on a teams situation and make-up.
8 janv. 2019 à 0 h 35
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so you would rather give brassard a 1st and maata over rust maatta and sheahan


I never said I would accept either of those. I think they are both over payments.
 
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