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Créé par: jwtemple3
Équipe: 2018-19 Flyers de Philadelphie
Date de création initiale: 14 déc. 2018
Publié: 14 déc. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Immediate fixes that could stabilize the Flyers for the time being. Moving players like Simmonds and Voracek would have to be done closer to the trade deadline if the team is still outside of a playoff spot. Simmonds and Voracek could recoup the picks and more lost in the Crawford/Muzzin trades.
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CHI
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2019 1st if the Flyers make the playoffs and Crawford starts in at least 20 games during the regular season
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LAK
  1. Gudas, Radko
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
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14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 34
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Have you seen Crawford this year? Plus he is 33 and has injury problems and you want to give up a potential lottery pick?
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 35
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Have you seen Crawford this year?


Have you seen the team in front of him?
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 36
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Have you seen the team in front of him?


Oh so it's the team infront of him's fault but it's the Flyers goalies fault for the past however many years even though our D has been one of the worst in the league...got it!
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14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 44
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Oh so it's the team infront of him's fault but it's the Flyers goalies fault for the past however many years even though our D has been one of the worst in the league...got it!


Got em'
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 48
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Oh so it's the team infront of him's fault but it's the Flyers goalies fault for the past however many years even though our D has been one of the worst in the league...got it!


It's a contributing factor for sure. He'd be an upgrade over every goalie we currently have in the organization. Odds are they'd still miss the playoffs in this scenario and get a two time Stanley Cup champion for at least another season to mentor Hart if they bring him up to back up Crawford the following year. All that at the cost of another team's 3rd round pick? I don't see how a GM would turn that down.
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 51
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It's a contributing factor for sure. He'd be an upgrade over every goalie we currently have in the organization. Odds are they'd still miss the playoffs in this scenario and get a two time Stanley Cup champion for at least another season to mentor Hart if they bring him up to back up Crawford the following year. All that at the cost of another team's 3rd round pick? I don't see how a GM would turn that down.


You don't entertain the idea of giving up a lotto pick, that's how! If it was for a 3rd then so be it but no chance we give up that 1st in any scenario!
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 53
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Why would LA take Gudas and a 2nd for Muzzin? People are arguing over the goaltender while missing the much more ridiculous trade.
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 54
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Why would LA take Gudas and a 2nd for Muzzin? People are arguing over the goaltender while missing the much more ridiculous trade.


Is it really all that ridiculous? You seem to be under the impression that Gudas is awful which isn't the case.
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 56
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You don't entertain the idea of giving up a lotto pick, that's how! If it was for a 3rd then so be it but no chance we give up that 1st in any scenario!


It's not a lottery pick if they make the playoffs
14 déc. 2018 à 9 h 58
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Why would LA take Gudas and a 2nd for Muzzin? People are arguing over the goaltender while missing the much more ridiculous trade.


Muzzin's on pace for his lowest point total since 13-14 but I think he'd make a great 2nd pair with Sanheim.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 1
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It's not a lottery pick if they make the playoffs


Ah yes, my bad. I see what you got now.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 11
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Oh so it's the team infront of him's fault but it's the Flyers goalies fault for the past however many years even though our D has been one of the worst in the league...got it!


Yes, you're right. No sarcasm. PHI's defense made it to the eastern conference finals! Who changed from last year? Let's put it this way...The hawks are playing Brandon Manning ALOT. 27 games so far. He's not a healthy scratch. He's part of the contributors. Even when you watch the broadcasts...Eddie O just feels bad for Keith. Keith has to play with a young guy like Forsling....who's a LD, but playing RD to get more ice time. It's just a mess on defense for CHI.
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14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 23
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Oh so it's the team infront of him's fault but it's the Flyers goalies fault for the past however many years even though our D has been one of the worst in the league...got it!


None of the Flyers' goalies in the past 10 years have been as good as Crawford. He's a Vezina goalie with a competent D in front of him. You're delusional.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 24
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Yes, you're right. No sarcasm. PHI's defense made it to the eastern conference finals! Who changed from last year? Let's put it this way...The hawks are playing Brandon Manning ALOT. 27 games so far. He's not a healthy scratch. He's part of the contributors. Even when you watch the broadcasts...eddie O just feels bad for Keith. Keith has to play with a young guy like Forsling....who's a LD, but playing RD to get more ice time. It's just a mess on defense for CHI.


Everything you are saying is the FLyers to a T and has been for awhile now. Manning played 65 games last year for the Flyers.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 25
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None of the Flyers' goalies in the past 10 years have been as good as Crawford. He's a Vezina goalie with a competent D in front of him. You're delusional.


And what has he done recently? Just because a guy was good, doesn't mean he is good now! Or screw it, let's sign Patrick Roy because he has won Cups and Vezina's!
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 25
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Everything you are saying is the FLyers to a T and has been for awhile now. Manning played 65 games last year for the Flyers.


YUP! and made it to the eastern conference finals. Prov and Ghost are great! You're forgetting about the results which matter. Just get an average goalie...you're back to last year. Got a Real Goalie...with playoff winning experience??? Game changer.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 27
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YUP! and made it to the eastern conference finals. You're forgetting about the results which matter. Just get an average goalie...you're back to last year. Got a Real Goalie...with playoff winning experience??? Game changer.


Except for thew fact that he is 33 and has major injury concerns.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 29
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And what has he done recently? Just because a guy was good, doesn't mean he is good now! Or screw it, let's sign Patrick Roy because he has won Cups and Vezina's!


He was a .929 goalie last season until he got hurt? His stats are only garbage this year because we have a terrible D corps and a first year coach. Philly should be doing everything they can to trade for Crow. I'm not saying he's worth a first rounder and a stud prospect but he's a massive upgrade from what you have now. There's no reason the Flyers shouldn't be a playoff team, way too much talent.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 30
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He was a .929 goalie last season until he got hurt? His stats are only garbage this year because we have a terrible D corps and a first year coach. Philly should be doing everything they can to trade for Crow. I'm not saying he's worth a first rounder and a stud prospect but he's a massive upgrade from what you have now. There's no reason the Flyers shouldn't be a playoff team, way too much talent.


How is the FLyers D any better this year? How would Crawford be helped at all?
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 30
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Except for thew fact that he is 33 and has major injury concerns.


So he got injured once in his career. ok. Varly too! You shouldn't sign Varly then. Crow wouldn't be playing...taking pucks to the head! if there was a legit concern. The Hawks deliberately took their time because that's what they do. The Hawks were the VERY first team in the NHL to bring team doctors on the road. Now every team does it. The Hawks don't mess around with player safety. AND PHI will take him through the ringer during the physical. 33...with 1.5 years. then it's time for HART. Crow's the PERFECT situation for PHI. He just may cost too much...which I would understand too.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 34
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How is the FLyers D any better this year? How would Crawford be helped at all?


Why do you need the D to be immensely better when they made it to the eastern conference finals last year? It's not as if they we're lighting the lamp an insane amount. They were an average offensive team.
14 déc. 2018 à 10 h 36
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Why do you need the D to be immensely better when they made it to the eastern conference finals last year? It's not as if they we're lighting the lamp an insane amount. They were an average offensive team.


Are you under the impression that the Flyers got out of the 1st round last year? You need to do more research.
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Are you under the impression that the Flyers got out of the 1st round last year? You need to do more research.


Hahaha, oh shoot! You're right. LOL Not the first...won't be the last.
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Have you seen Crawford this year? Plus he is 33 and has injury problems and you want to give up a potential lottery pick?


Huh, he's injured again. Who could have guessed that???
17 déc. 2018 à 15 h 55
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Huh, he's injured again. Who could have guessed that???


Stop It. It's his 2nd career injury. He had 1 range against the machine concert mishap. but that's it. Nothing else of significance. Anyone can get hit in the head at any time.
 
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