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Grading 2018 UFA's and Major Trades With Their New Teams

Which 2018 UFA/Trade Has Had the Biggest Impact on His New Team?
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26 nov. 2018 à 4 h 28
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John Tavares, TOR: A+
-Tavares has fit in seamlessly, especially considering the hostile market of Toronto, the absence of Matthews, and the struggles of other high profile UFA's from the same class.

James Neal, CGY: F
-Neal was expected to play alongside Monahan and Gaudreau on the CGY top line. Obviously this hasn't materialized and he's been totally ineffective despite a big new contract. CGY's success as a team has somewhat overshadowed Neal's rough start.

Jeff Skinner, BUF: A+
-He's been the biggest bounce back player so far this year, in my opinion. BUF is the COL/NJD of 2018-19 so far, due in large part to Skinner's goal scoring prowess. And they didn't have to give up much to get him.

Ryan O'Reilly, STL: B+
-His 2-way game has translated well to his new team, but he hasn't really developed great chemistry w/ Vlad Tarasenko...yet.

Ilya Kovalchuck, LAK: C
-LAK has been arguably the biggest disappointment so far this season, and w/ an AAV of $6.25M Kovalchuck hasn't lived up to lofty expectations. Safe to say the KHL is NOT the NHL.

Max Pacioretty, VGK: C+
-After a very sluggish start, Pacioretty has shifted his game into high gear. He's scored 6G in his last 5 games.

J.V.R, PHI: C-
-Probably a little too soon to pass judgment on J.V.R b/c he missed the first 15 or so games and PHI has been a disappointment as a team, but he's a PP specialist who hasn't contributed a lot 5 on 5 considering his huge price tag.

Max Domi, MTL: A+
-Domi is experiencing a breakout season on his new team and has provided incredible contract value ($3.15M AAV).

Tyler Bozak, STL: C
-He's been the subject of a lot of negative press so far, but his offensive numbers (3G, 8A) are actually pretty close to the pace he was on last season in TOR. However, his $5M AAV would suggest his offensive production should be a little higher, especially w/ an increased role in STL.

David Perron, STL: C+
-Perhaps there were unrealistic expectations after he posted a ridiculous 66 points w/ Vegas last season, but Perron has been okay w/ his new team. It's really the goaltending that's caused STL to under perform so far.

Erik Karlsson, SJS: C
-I think the expectations were too high for Karlsson in SJS, and they should hold off on an extension for as long as possible. Having Karlsson and Burns is somewhat redundant b/c so much of their offensive production comes from the PP, and there's only so much ice time to go around. Just look at how Chabot has had a breakout season in OTT w/ Karlsson's departure. No way that happens w/ Karlsson still in OTT. I'm not sure I see the value in SJS offering a $10M+ AAV contract to Karlsson right now.

Carter Hutton, BUF: A-
-Obviously STL held on to the wrong Goalie. Hutton's numbers are far superior to those of Jake Allen, despite playing behind a much more inexperienced defense.
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26 nov. 2018 à 4 h 46
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It's amazing how many UFA contracts awarded to players in their late 20's and early 30's end up financially disastrous. Look at some pf the biggest UFA's from the last few seasons: Lucic has been an utter disaster. Shattenkirk has been terrible. Loui Ericsson in VAN. Backes in BOS. Nielsen in DET...The list goes on, and they never learn to just draft and develop. You're always gonna overpay for a UFA. It's like an auction.
30 nov. 2018 à 22 h 30
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It's amazing how many UFA contracts awarded to players in their late 20's and early 30's end up financially disastrous. Look at some pf the biggest UFA's from the last few seasons: Lucic has been an utter disaster. Shattenkirk has been terrible. Loui Ericsson in VAN. Backes in BOS. Nielsen in DET...The list goes on, and they never learn to just draft and develop. You're always gonna overpay for a UFA. It's like an auction.

It's like GMs have cap space and just HAVE to spend the money on a UFA. If it was only a year or two it might be OK but they extend into six years. I suppose if they didn't spend the money in the summer and the team did poorly folks would complain that the GM "didn't do anything to help the team"....even though there was cap money to spend. It's like in poker, some times the best thing to do is not spending money on a bad hand.

I'm still not sure if Tavares is going to be a great deal late in his contract, but this year he has been great, especially with the absence of Matthews.
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30 nov. 2018 à 22 h 43
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I agree that Tavares could be a liability in years 5-7 on his contract, but the cap will probably go up significantly by then. And the rest of the core will still be in their late 20's at that point. They had to get Tavares. They have a chance to win now and you gotta go for it. They were w/o Matthews, and Nylander and still a top 5 team this year. I think the two best teams in the NHL are TOR and TBL right now if fully healthy.
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I agree that Tavares could be a liability in years 5-7 on his contract, but the cap will probably go up significantly by then. And the rest of the core will still be in their late 20's at that point. They had to get Tavares. They have a chance to win now and you gotta go for it. They were w/o Matthews, and Nylander and still a top 5 team this year. I think the two best teams in the NHL are TOR and TBL right now if fully healthy.

Both Nashville and Winnipeg are better than TOR. You could even argue SJS.
1 déc. 2018 à 8 h 42
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Both Nashville and Winnipeg are better than TOR. You could even argue SJS.


You might be right. Leafs have played Winnipeg and San Jose four times this season, and won all four games. Haven't played Nashville yet.
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1 déc. 2018 à 11 h 32
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You might be right. Leafs have played Winnipeg and San Jose four times this season, and won all four games. Haven't played Nashville yet.


Yup. You're right. I don't think you can really argue that SJS is better right now. They could potentially be better by season's end, but not now. TOR's goaltending has been far superior to both SJS and WPG this year. NSH has Rinne and he's been great, but Andersen has been lights out for the Leafs, as well.
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Both Nashville and Winnipeg are better than TOR. You could even argue SJS.


SJS's goaltending has been a disaster this season and Hellebuyck (.904 save %) has been mediocre at best while Freddy Andersen has been arguably the Vezina favorite so far. He leads the NHL in Wins and has a .932 save % while Martin Jones has a save % of just .892 which will probably be lower after today's game vs. OTT. SJS isn't close to TOR by any measure right now. They also play in the weakest division in the league. They've been a pretty big disappointment at 12-9-5 while TOR is 18-8-0 (2nd in point % behind TBL). Clearly TOR has been a top 3 team this season so far. It's a fact, not an opinion. Look at the results.
1 déc. 2018 à 16 h 4
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SJS's goaltending has been a disaster this season and Hellebuyck (.904 save %) has been mediocre at best while Freddy Andersen has been arguably the Vezina favorite so far. He leads the NHL in Wins and has a .932 save % while Martin Jones has a save % of just .892 which will probably be lower after today's game vs. OTT. SJS isn't close to TOR by any measure right now. They also play in the weakest division in the league. They've been a pretty big disappointment at 12-9-5 while TOR is 18-8-0 (2nd in point % behind TBL). Clearly TOR has been a top 3 team this season so far. It's a fact, not an opinion. Look at the results.


Not true. It is completely an opinion. You said the top 2 teams are TBL and TOR. That implies you are referring to their play on paper. And on paper, TOR is the 5th best team in the league.
1 déc. 2018 à 16 h 21
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Not true. It is completely an opinion. You said the top 2 teams are TBL and TOR. That implies you are referring to their play on paper. And on paper, TOR is the 5th best team in the league.


TOR has 36 points! That makes them 3rd. They're 2nd in points %. And SJS is 15th in the standings. They've been terrible lately, especially away form home. TOR is 4-0-0 against SJS and WPG-the 2 teams you said are better. 3 of those 4 W's came w/ a depleted TOR lineup. Not close. And just for the record, I'm no Leafs fan.
1 déc. 2018 à 16 h 24
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TOR has 36 points! That makes them 3rd. They're 2nd in points %. And SJS is 15th in the standings. They've been terrible lately, especially away form home. TOR is 4-0-0 against SJS and WPG-the 2 teams you said are better. 3 of those 4 W's came w/ a depleted TOR lineup. Not close. And just for the record, I'm no Leafs fan.


Yes ok, but you are an idiot if you think TOR is better than WPG.
1 déc. 2018 à 16 h 29
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Yes ok, but you are an idiot if you think TOR is better than WPG.



You can always tell when someone loses an argument when they resort to name calling.
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Skinner and Hutton boosted Buffalo massively.
3 déc. 2018 à 8 h 58
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You can always tell when someone loses an argument when they resort to name calling.


That, his gig to to tear down every Leaf "good post". Guess he likes the attention from the biggest fan base.
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Skinner and Hutton boosted Buffalo massively.


I actually thought Sabres shouldn't have traded for a one year rental (little do I know). Good to see Hutton...really a career secondary player all his career, doing so well in his advancing years (by NHL standards).
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That, his gig to to tear down every Leaf "good post". Guess he likes the attention from the biggest fan base.


And I'm not even a Leafs fan! I've been a Devils fan my whole life! I'm as unbiased as possible when it comes to TOR. Any unbiased hockey fan would realize how dominant TOR has been this season. Will they win the Cup? I really don't know...
3 déc. 2018 à 16 h 36
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Yes ok, but you are an idiot if you think TOR is better than WPG.


Guess the NHL standings are idiots ??‍♂️
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Guess the NHL standings are idiots ??‍♂️


I guess the 2 games this season where TOR beat WPG w/o Nylander for both and w/o Matthews most of the 2nd game never happened either.
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I actually thought Sabres shouldn't have traded for a one year rental (little do I know). Good to see Hutton...really a career secondary player all his career, doing so well in his advancing years (by NHL standards).


At this point I think everyone would be pretty surprised if Skinner didn't re-sign w/ BUF. They're definitely an organization on the rise and they have tons of young talent and draft picks to be competitive for years to come.
 
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