No thanks. You can keep your bottom pairing defenseman and underperforming winger. If you want to include a 1st round pick, a quality top-four RHD prospect, or a teenage winger that is capable of scoring 30g+ in the NHL, then the Kings might be interested. Otherwise, they're better off just keeping Toffoli.

Lauzon looks like a top 4 guy right now. He’s stepping up big time. And Donato has never played a full season. Personally, I think the bruins pass on this. We’re totally content with doing Heinen and a 2nd

Lauzon might be a potential top 4 guy, but unless he can switch to righty, then he'll just join the logjam of 19-22 year old LHD that the Kings have. Donato and Heinen are both too old to be useful for a Kings rebuild. If you want to trade Carlo or McAvoy, sure the Kings might be interested. Otherwise, they'll trade with another team that is able to give up something that the Kings could actually use.

Haha, the Kings could use Heinen or Donato. 22/23 is not old lol.

Haha, the Kings could use Heinen or Donato. 22/23 is not old lol.

Haha, the Kings could use Heinen or Donato. 22/23 is not old lol.

Oh dear god what happened

I didn't suggest that 22/23 was old, but if the Kings are going to rebuild, then by the time they are ready to compete again, both players will be 28/29 and will be eligible for unrestricted free agency. The Kings aren't going to downgrade from Toffoli to one of those guys. They'll just keep him and have a quality 31/32 year old winger when they finish their rebuild.

Lol, no problem B’s would not do this package anyway. Your 40 point winger isn’t worth a 30 goal scorer and you aren’t better off keeping him as he’s a UFA after next season. Donato and 2nd is fair value. 2nd could be swapped for 1st if it was a sticking point. That’s max tho. We’d pass otherwise.

It might be fair value, it's just not what the Kings need. If that's the offer, the Kings would look elsewhere for something younger and more relevant to their needs.

And won’t get it because thats not what he’s worth

Donato is 22 and 1st and you want younger? Pedophile much? Lol

Your argument is weird for a few reasons - Lauzon can and has been playing the right side although he is lefty. Donato is also a potential NHL 30 goal scorer. I would bet he does it before Toffoli sniffs it again. Toffoli has average under 23.5 goals throughout his career. He is a 20-25 goal guy. Why would the Bruins or any team trade a top 4 dman and sure thing 30 goal scorer for a guy who will score 20-25. Also - what log jam? None of those guys really project as top 4 or better with the exception of Clague.

Bruins pass hard on this deal & rightfully so. Toffoli is a 20 goal guy, not 30

Kings already have a lot of lefties that play on the right side. Fantenberg and Martinez are both left handed guys that play on the right. If they were going to trade a quality piece like Toffoli for a defenseman, it would be for a RHD. Between Brickley, Walker, MacDermid, and Clague, the Kings already have enough lefties in the farm system. They don't need another.

As the guy who made this trade proposal said, this trade would be made if the Kings keep sucking and go rebuild. If they do that, they're not going to want 22+ year old players. They're going to want draft picks and 18-20 year olds that will be in their prime when the Kings are ready to compete again. I'm sure Donato and Lauzon are potentially quality players, but they're not significantly younger than Toffoli and are only a few seasons removed from being UFAs. That's not what the Kings would target if they decided to trade Toffoli.

Finally, the Kings system suppresses scoring. There's a reason why players like Brian Boyle can't score with the Kings, then move to the East and put up double digit numbers. It's the same reason why when the Kings bring in players like Jeff Carter that scored 40g+ in the East, and can only manage 20-30g for the Kings. The Kings have only produced 4 players with 30g seasons since Terry Murray converted the Kings into the defense-first system that they've played since 2008. Those players are Anze Kopitar, Alexander Frolov, Jeff Carter, and Tyler Toffoli. Toffoli would be a 40g scorer on an Eastern conference team. Donato would be, at best, a 10-15g scorer on the Kings.

Bruins might pass on this deal, but so would the Kings.

I disagree with so much of this. Toffoli would not be a 40g scorer in the EC. He would not. Not sure if you've noticed, but the Bruins have been as the top of the league in goals allowed for a decade too.
Your whole premise doesn't make sense either. It seems like they would want 20-24 year olds who are NHL Ready with potential otherwise you are 100% wasting Kopitar, Quick, Doughty and Carter (and it makes they Kolachuk signing worse) in their primes. Might as well move them too. Do you really want to wait 3-5 more years when Kopitar is 34-35? and Doughty 3-4 years older. They need to re-tool and make hockey trades not rebuild. Rebuilding takes years - See Buffalo, or Toronto and Yes there is some luck in picks, but they also nailed them. LA hasn't had a great pick in years.

Unless they get super lucky and find a pastrnak type who is a late pick, the only teams who will trade picks for Toffoli are playoff contenders.

A rebuild doesn't necessarily mean a 6-7 year rebuild. Look at the Bruins who completed a rebuild on the fly while keeping most of their core in place. LA could still very well complete a rebuild with Kopitar and Doughty as the main pieces with younger guys like Kempe and Clague stepping in. 22-23 is the perfect age for a rebuild of such, meaning the players involved will be 24-26 and potentially coming close to their full development.

Not saying either team accepts but the logic you presented did not take every aspect of a rebuild into consideration.

Donato is a perfect for LA, he is fast and can shoot. Put that with Kopitar or Carter and that's dangerous, also LA is a deathly slow team Donato can help that. As LA's defense corps on the left side, would you rather have 33 yr old cone Phaneuf or start transitioning to younger, mobile defensemen (like Lauzon). Can buyout Phaneuf at years end. The draft pick was a throw in, but the B's will not trade their first rounder this year. As far as I'm concerned this is a more risky deal for the Bruins as they are somewhat hedging their future to maximize the Bergeron, Marchand, Chara, Krejci era. LA's window is closed as far as I see it.

No, I assumed by "rebuild", the OP meant that Kopitar, Quick, Doughty, and Carter would be moved out as well in separate trades.

I would argue that Vilardi and Kupari were both great picks. We'll see in a couple years.

I would call that a "retool" and not a "rebuild" then. To me, rebuilding implies that you're moving out your core players and replacing them with youth.

Pearson was young, fast, and could shoot. That didn't work out for the Kings, and they had to trade him.

I don't think you read my post. The Kings have at least 4 young, NHL-ready LHD not currently playing in the NHL (Brickley, Walker, Clague, MacDermid). MacDermid is a bottom pairing physical guy, but the other three are top-four guys, with Clague being a top pairing guy. Lauzon might be a decent puck-moving defensive prospect, but the Kings have plenty of those. I'm sure he's a fine prospect, he's just doesn't fill any holes for the Kings.

You can't buy out Phaneuf. Due to the front-loaded nature of his contract, he'd have a $5M+ recapture cap hit in 2020-21 even if you buy him out. No, he's stuck on the Kings unless someone is willing to take on his contract in a trade.

You guys are all arguing why this is a terrible trade for the Bruins. I don't disagree. All I'm saying is that it's a terrible trade for the Kings also. It's possible that the Kings and Bruins just aren't good trade partners. Kings can look elsewhere to offload Toffoli if they decide they want to "retool."

Amazingly, with two comments you let us know you don't know who lauzon, mcavoy, or Carlo are, and have a tenuous understanding of who toffoli is

Unless Lauzon doesn't shoot left handed, and McAvoy/Carlo don't shoot right-handed, and all three players aren't the ages their profile says, than I don't think anything that I've said is inaccurate.

As a Kings season ticket holder for 19 years, I've seen Toffoli play almost every home game of his career in person, and am fully aware of his capabilities. I think it's funny that people insist that he's not a 30g scorer, when he has already hit 30g in his career while playing in an offensively-starved system. At 26, it's not like his performance is on the decline either. If anything, it's clear that you don't have any understanding of who Toffoli is.

You should start making a list of people whose opinion isn't worth considering or responding to. You've run into two of them in this skein. As LoganOlivier says, sometimes you can't change people's minds with facts.

Good to know. List started. Thanks for the heads up.

Lol. One, their opinion is not entirely wrong. Two, one could say the same of you, not exactly changing your opinion either when presented a counter argument. Some of your arguments were valid some were way off. Three if you can’t handle a difference of opinion this is not the place for you to be.

Lastly there is another reason they are moving players that has nothing to do with rebuilding.....cap space. They had no significant contracts coming off the books next year and no room to sign Kempe, Iafallo, others. And I hate to break it to you but if Sweeney called and offered Donato and a 1st.....Toffoli would be gone. It’s full value and there is no guarantee they could move him for what they are looking for, according to what you think they are looking for anyway.

Guess you can put me on the list now too seeing how I didn’t agree with you..