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Créé par: Lenny7
Équipe: 2018-19 Hurricanes de la Caroline
Date de création initiale: 20 nov. 2018
Publié: 20 nov. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Came up with the ultimate solution so that we don't have to see another Nylander thread for a few months:

CANES OFFER SHEET NYLANDER!

Super simple: Canes offer him $7.5x7, and either give up a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, or the Leafs match and put us all out of our misery for a few months.

Does this leave the Canes and Leafs on bad terms? Sure, but they don't typically deal together anyway, so worse things could happen. Does it leave you on bad terms around the league? Possibly, but why not try to re-write the book if you're Carolina.

The point of this being: I can't wait until Dec. 1st so this clown show is over.
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CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Nylander, William
77 500 000 $
Transactions
CAR
TOR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
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Compensation for Nylander
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2579 500 000 $68 769 166 $0 $4 420 000 $10 730 834 $
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6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
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1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 4
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
AG, AD
UFA - 3
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
C
UFA - 1
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2 860 000 $2 860 000 $
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UFA - 1
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7 500 000 $7 500 000 $
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887 500 $887 500 $
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UFA - 1
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695 000 $695 000 $
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750 000 $750 000 $
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675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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746 667 $746 667 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
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675 000 $675 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
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5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
DG
UFA - 7
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5 750 000 $5 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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4 550 000 $4 550 000 $
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UFA - 4
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4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
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UFA - 2
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1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG/DD
UFA - 1
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4 025 000 $4 025 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
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850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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2 300 000 $2 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 2

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20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 49
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The compensation would be four 1st round pick, and Toronto would definitely take that for Willy
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 49
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Or instead, you can use the offer sheet calculator and realize the compensation for that offer is 4 1st rounders. Also I would imagine the Leafs would just match that offer. It would (as long as it isn't pretty much just bonus money in year 1) have a huge cap hit this year and fall a little under 7 million for the cap hit in years 2-7, the Leafs can make that work for sure.
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 50
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Quoting: Laquille
The compensation would be four 1st round pick, and Toronto would definitely take that for Willy


I am not so sure, Nylander was an 8th overall pick and he'd certainly help Carolina get back in the hunt for a playoff spot. With the young talent they have they'll eventually turn it around and those 4 picks could be 4 late first rounders and the chances of finding a replacement for Nylander in the late 1st round isn't exactly easy.
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 51
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Or instead, you can use the offer sheet calculator and realize the compensation for that offer is 4 1st rounders. Also I would imagine the Leafs would just match that offer. It would (as long as it isn't pretty much just bonus money in year 1) have a huge cap hit this year and fall a little under 7 million for the cap hit in years 2-7, the Leafs can make that work for sure.


Shoot, looked it up on prohockeyrumours and this is what came up. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2018/05/2018-offer-sheet-compensation.html

Weird that they aren't the same?
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 53
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Quoting: Laquille
The compensation would be four 1st round pick, and Toronto would definitely take that for Willy


Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but 7.5 falls in the 1st+2nd+3rd category in every single calculator I use...
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 54
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Quoting: Lenny7
Shoot, looked it up on prohockeyrumours and this is what came up. https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2018/05/2018-offer-sheet-compensation.html

Weird that they aren't the same?


Not all sites are created equal I guess. I am not a frequenter of Pro Hockey Rumours but I imagine it would be equally as dumb as Hockeybuzz.
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 55
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but 7.5 falls in the 1st+2nd+3rd category in every single calculator I use...


https://www.capfriendly.com/offer-sheet-calculator
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 57
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
Not all sites are created equal I guess. I am not a frequenter of Pro Hockey Rumours but I imagine it would be equally as dumb as Hockeybuzz.


In the new convention, you gotta take the total amount of the contract and make it for 5 years. So your contract gives Willy 52,5 millions, so 10,5 on a 5 years term. The compensation is now ruled in the 10 148 302 bracket and it is 4 first round pick
20 nov. 2018 à 9 h 58
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Quoting: Laquille
In the new convention, you gotta take the total amount of the contract and make it for 5 years. So your contract gives Willy 52,5 millions, so 10,5 on a 5 years term. The compensation is now ruled in the 10 148 302 bracket and it is 4 first round pick


I am aware of this.
20 nov. 2018 à 10 h 0
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Quoting: LoganOllivier
I am aware of this.


Sorry i wanted to quote Lenny not you lol
20 nov. 2018 à 10 h 6
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Quoting: Lenny7
Maybe I'm doing something wrong here, but 7.5 falls in the 1st+2nd+3rd category in every single calculator I use...


Offer sheet calculators are weird. I believe they calculate the number based on a five year term.

So while 7.5 over five years would be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for compensation, the two extra years bring the AAV over 5 years to closer to 10.5 which is four 1ts.

That's my understanding it anyway. I could be wrong.
20 nov. 2018 à 10 h 12
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
Offer sheet calculators are weird. I believe they calculate the number based on a five year term.

So while 7.5 over five years would be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for compensation, the two extra years bring the AAV over 5 years to closer to 10.5 which is four 1ts.

That's my understanding it anyway. I could be wrong.


Quoting: Laquille
In the new convention, you gotta take the total amount of the contract and make it for 5 years. So your contract gives Willy 52,5 millions, so 10,5 on a 5 years term. The compensation is now ruled in the 10 148 302 bracket and it is 4 first round pick


Interesting.

Alright, let's knock it down to 5 years @ $7.5 then. Leafs match, we celebrate and go back to trashing Habs trades. Done and done.
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20 nov. 2018 à 10 h 16
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Quoting: Lenny7
Interesting.

Alright, let's knock it down to 5 years @ $7.5 then. Leafs match, we celebrate and go back to trashing Habs trades. Done and done.


but willy wouldnt accept that deal
20 nov. 2018 à 11 h 20
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no one ever factors in the bonuses on an offer sheet lol.. its always the baseline and they forget to add the bonuses. Thats not the correct compensation on that contract.
 
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