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14 nov 2018 à 12 h 07
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A trade between Los Angeles Kings and Pittsburgh Penguins has been confirmed.
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14 nov 2018 à 12 h 18
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Pearson is having an awful year, but is much younger than Hagelin, overall a better player, and is on a way better contract. It's possible he gets put with Crosby and can re-find his game. Even playing with Malkin or Brassard would objectively be better than playing with Kempe and Lewis like he has been recently. Advantage Pittsburgh.

LA wanting Hagelin is a sign of them addressing their need for faster skaters, but Hagelin doesn't bring much else, top six scoring-wise. He'll probably be dealt at the deadline.
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14 nov 2018 à 12 h 25
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This is probably the Kings way of saying that they need more speed. Given Hagelin's status as a pending UFA, if the experiment doesn't work, they can flip him at the deadline. It's a decent plan for them, but they still didn't get enough value in this deal. While Hagelin will help out their PK, they need more goals. Hagelin is a huge downgrade from Pearson in that regard, even if Pearson hasn't gotten going yet this year.

LA is probably looking at this as Pearson isn't doing anything for them, so why not bring in someone else to help with the PK and mix things up.
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14 nov 2018 à 12 h 44
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Hagelin is a UFA after the year and Pearson is probably the better player. Yes, he's struggling and i understand the move for both teams, both teams are struggling and they have traded players who are struggling this year. However, i don't think it makes a ton of sense for LA. But we'll see how it turns out, it's too early to know.
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14 nov 2018 à 12 h 47
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What!? how did this happen.... to be honost im not that supprised the kings and the penguins both need a shake up in there locker room though i very much think that pittsburgh benifited from this deal, the kings got a okay player for pearson who if he has a good year can really be a great player i dont understand why the kings made this trade other than to shake up there locker room
14 nov 2018 à 12 h 50
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If the Leaf/King game was any indication the maximum value of any Kings player would be about a 4th rounder. Kings/Pens are hoping a change of scenery for both players help. Kings get some cap space for next year which might be their main objective. Certainly Hagelin will help with his speed and PK, although Kings just might be a lottery team this year anyway.
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14 nov 2018 à 13 h 14
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The BOG has flagged the following trades as potentially "obscenely unfair, having a profound impact on general market values or attempting to circumvent trade rules". We will be voting on whether deal reconstruction will be necessary, in the mean time all assets involved will be frozen.

Pittsburgh Penguins
Tanner Pearson

Los Angeles Kings
Carl Hagelin @ 6% retained
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14 nov 2018 à 13 h 39
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Quoting: Icegirl
The BOG has flagged the following trades as potentially "obscenely unfair, having a profound impact on general market values or attempting to circumvent trade rules". We will be voting on whether deal reconstruction will be necessary, in the mean time all assets involved will be frozen.

Pittsburgh Penguins
Tanner Pearson

Los Angeles Kings
Carl Hagelin @ 6% retained


You arent BOG.
14 nov 2018 à 13 h 41
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PIT definitely won the trade. Curious what JR's going to do next year though. Jake's getting a big raise and they need to ice a team. Already not a lot of cap space. Kudos to PIT for the deal though.
14 nov 2018 à 14 h 11
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Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuummmmm?

Kings, you OK?
14 nov 2018 à 14 h 48
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People on Armchair GMs thought he was worth Maatta. Hope the guy does well, cheaper than Hags. Miss you Hags and your speed.
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14 nov 2018 à 15 h 48
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
People on Armchair GMs thought he was worth Maatta. Hope the guy does well, cheaper than Hags. Miss you Hags and your speed.


Agreed.

I am happy with the change up as we needed something to happen and now hopefully we can do like we did in 2016, after 1 trade that involved Perron for Hagelin at the time from ANA, we went on a large win streak and won the cup! Can we do it again this year???? We'll see!

Hags will be very much missed for his speedy play and puck abilities that helped us win Back 2 Back Stanley Cups!

But anyways welcome to the team Tanner Pearson!

Pittsburgh Penguins
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14 nov 2018 à 15 h 56
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Hags, you will be missed.

But welcome Tanner Pearson!!!
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14 nov 2018 à 16 h 24
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Quoting: Missouri
Agreed.

I am happy with the change up as we needed something to happen and now hopefully we can do like we did in 2016, after 1 trade that involved Perron for Hagelin at the time from ANA, we went on a large win streak and won the cup! Can we do it again this year???? We'll see!

Hags will be very much missed for his speedy play and puck abilities that helped us win Back 2 Back Stanley Cups!

But anyways welcome to the team Tanner Pearson!

Pittsburgh Penguins


I know, I'm just glad it was Hags and not like a Rust or a Maatta. Hopefully this shake up is what the Pens need.
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14 nov 2018 à 18 h 18
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going to depend on what la get for hags when they deal him at the deadline. as of now though pens win
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14 nov 2018 à 18 h 22
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Quoting: Hockeylover360
I know, I'm just glad it was Hags and not like a Rust or a Maatta. Hopefully this shake up is what the Pens need.


Ya, Extremely glad it wasn't one of them. Rust and Maata are way better than Hags Imo.
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14 nov 2018 à 18 h 25
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Quoting: palhal
If the Leaf/King game was any indication the maximum value of any Kings player would be about a 4th rounder. Kings/Pens are hoping a change of scenery for both players help. Kings get some cap space for next year which might be their main objective. Certainly Hagelin will help with his speed and PK, although Kings just might be a lottery team this year anyway.


LAK are pretty much throwing in the towel on this season. I wonder what Kovalchuck was thinking when he chose the Kings. He did say he wanted to go somewhere he could win, right?
14 nov 2018 à 18 h 31
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Quoting: palhal
If the Leaf/King game was any indication the maximum value of any Kings player would be about a 4th rounder. Kings/Pens are hoping a change of scenery for both players help. Kings get some cap space for next year which might be their main objective. Certainly Hagelin will help with his speed and PK, although Kings just might be a lottery team this year anyway.


I think this is a cap move by the kings. Frees up Pearson from cap next year and maybe if hagelin can perform they will think about resigning. I don’t think thatvwould be a great idea.
14 nov 2018 à 18 h 49
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I see this deal as much worse for the Kings than many suggest here - Hagelin didn't have a good first stint in the pacific. the heavier , possession style game doesn't suit him. he's a North-South player, PKer and secondary scorer at best. his best time in New York was when they were playing true Run'n gun hockey. I've lost count how often his stone hands cost him goals. could've easily had 25-30.read: he's not the kind of guy you can plop on your top line alongside an elite center and expect him to produce. for what he's able to do he was always overpaid. now the pens found a way to move him for someone who CAN be relied upon for that exact purpose while the Kings just piss away an asset (sorry but it has to be said in a crass manner) without even a mid round pick back. poor move
14 nov 2018 à 20 h 04
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Barathrum, haven't seen you lately. Hope to read more of your insights.
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14 nov 2018 à 21 h 06
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Quoting: Brian2016
LAK are pretty much throwing in the towel on this season. I wonder what Kovalchuck was thinking when he chose the Kings. He did say he wanted to go somewhere he could win, right?


Likewise, Doughty has said a big reason he decided to go ahead and re-sign was that front office promised no rebuild (see: tank).
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15 nov 2018 à 13 h 54
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Likewise, Doughty has said a big reason he decided to go ahead and re-sign was that front office promised no rebuild (see: tank).


You also have to wonder just how long Willie Desjardins is gonna last in LAK. They've really looked terrible in their last 3 games. I believe they've only scored 3G TOTAL in those 3 games combined.
15 nov 2018 à 14 h 14
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This is probably the Kings way of saying that they need more speed. Given Hagelin's status as a pending UFA, if the experiment doesn't work, they can flip him at the deadline. It's a decent plan for them, but they still didn't get enough value in this deal. While Hagelin will help out their PK, they need more goals. Hagelin is a huge downgrade from Pearson in that regard, even if Pearson hasn't gotten going yet this year.

LA is probably looking at this as Pearson isn't doing anything for them, so why not bring in someone else to help with the PK and mix things up.


I think this is a salary dump, plain and simple. Pearson was dead weight and Haglin's contract expires at season's end. LAK needs every possible dollar of cap space to pursue a UFA scorer if they plan on rebounding next season. And they pretty much have to go for it. Their salary structure won't really allow them to rebuild as long as they have so many top heavy contracts, Kopitar, Doughty, Phaneuf, Brown, Quick, and Carter, just to name a few on their roster.
16 nov 2018 à 18 h 30
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Quoting: palhal


thanks pal. not much stuff requiring input going on lately!
16 nov 2018 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Hagelin is a UFA after the year and Pearson is probably the better player. Yes, he's struggling and i understand the move for both teams, both teams are struggling and they have traded players who are struggling this year. However, i don't think it makes a ton of sense for LA. But we'll see how it turns out, it's too early to know.


Clearly this isn't a move that's gonna save the season for LAK. They'll probably just let Haglin go after the season and save the cap space for another UFA. Their problems lie w/ their overpaid underperforming veterans.
 
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