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Defense Realistic

Créé par: Shylo_Moxii
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 oct. 2018
Publié: 12 oct. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
This is what Blues want for Parayko if it actually ever came around. It might be overpayment, but it's what you have to pay for Blues best performing defenseman so far.
Transactions
TOR
  1. Parayko, Colton
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (STL)
  3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2021 (STL)
STL
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Nylander
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
2019
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de DAL
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de STL
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $67 870 000 $2 550 000 $5 400 000 $11 630 000 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
650 000 $650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Blues de St-Louis
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 4

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12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 19
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Did you forget to make the trade or is your point there is no trade?
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 20
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Quoting: Jamiepo
Did you forget to make the trade or is your point there is no trade?


no trade at all you get the point
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 21
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no trade at all you get the point


Quoting: Jamiepo
Did you forget to make the trade or is your point there is no trade?


if you want a trade. here
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 25
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no trade at all you get the point


Yup I figured lol. Think if leafs were to do anything it would be TDL anyways. Bit early for teams to start to panic.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 25
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No way. Parayko for Nylander is a fair deal, regardless of what some haters may or may not think. However, since the Blues need Parayko way more than the Leafs need Nylander, it will never happen.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 26
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i'm gonna have to disagree on this one, i wouldn't give Kapanen and St.Louis would need to give more
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 30
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i'm gonna have to disagree on this one, i wouldn't give Kapanen and St.Louis would need to give more


Did you read what the description said. What Blues would WANT to get rid of Parayko.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 31
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No way. Parayko for Nylander is a fair deal, regardless of what some haters may or may not think. However, since the Blues need Parayko way more than the Leafs need Nylander, it will never happen.


Defenseman are worth more than wingers.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 35
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Defenseman are worth more than wingers.


That is not necessarily true. Furthermore, Nylander is 21 years old, controllable and has the ability and will most likely one day play centre, his natural position. Nylander's international accolades clearly speak for themselves and if he was on any other team, there's no question he'd be a top line player through and through. This brings me back to the Seth Jones-for-Ryan Johanson deal a few years back, even though I know a lot of people out there will point to Hall-for-Larsson. Truth is, as I already mentioned, St. Louis needs Parayko, where the Leafs do not need Nylander, which is where I see it potentially costing the Leafs more. However, from a true fair perspective, a 1-for-1 hockey trade is definitely more fair than it is more unfair.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 36
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That is not necessarily true. Furthermore, Nylander is 21 years old, controllable and has the ability and will most likely one day play centre, his natural position. Nylander's international accolades clearly speak for themselves and if he was on any other team, there's no question he'd be a top line player through and through. This brings me back to the Seth Jones-for-Ryan Johanson deal a few years back, even though I know a lot of people out there will point to Hall-for-Larsson. Truth is, as I already mentioned, St. Louis needs Parayko, where the Leafs do not need Nylander, which is where I see it potentially costing the Leafs more. However, from a true fair perspective, a 1-for-1 hockey trade is definitely more fair than it is more unfair.
he wants overpayment also and parayko is on a rather cheap deal therefore still more valuable
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 53
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Might be an overpayment? Pretty large one. Nylander for Paryko is fair value. Blues won’t do it. Bur it’s fair.

You are right though. An overpayment like this is what it would take for them to consider it.
12 oct. 2018 à 11 h 54
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Quoting: BeastModeUnknown
no trade at all you get the point


I agree with you that TO and St Louis just aren't in the right positions to trade with each other. St Louis could use Nylander, but to get him it would cost their 2nd best defenceman and I don't think they have an appetite for that.

In regards to the trade you proposed, its just silly. Parayko isn't worth Nylander in a straight up deal. He's an extremely good defender but he's not elite in any aspect, just really good in most categories. Nylander is elite in a lot of ways and average in a few others. That being said, why I don't see a trade between these teams is because for either sqaud to get enough value to make a trade make sense, one side is going to have to lose the deal outright. And trading too much assets to fill a hole generally just creates holes elsewhere.

You have proven that without a doubt, the trade here would take 2 of TO's 4 RW out, and a 50 point defenceman for just 1 RHD. That is a terrible trade to make, it fills one hole and creates 2 more bigger holes up front.
 
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