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(SJS / OTT) - Karlsson, Perron for Tierney, DeMelo, Norris, Balcers & picks

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18 sept. 2018 à 16 h 40
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Quoting: mtdavis311
The narrative that Karlsson is bad in his own zone is oversold, anyways. Karlsson is just as solid at playing defense as most of the "elite" defenders out there. This narrative just sticks because of how often he ends up chipping in on the offensive side.


He ain't no good ol' Canadian boy, that's for sure.
24 sept. 2018 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: mtdavis311
The narrative that Karlsson is bad in his own zone is oversold, anyways. Karlsson is just as solid at playing defense as most of the "elite" defenders out there. This narrative just sticks because of how often he ends up chipping in on the offensive side.


so true
11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 31
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I said the Sharks got slaughtered when the trade was announced and now it looks like I was right.
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11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 39
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Funny enough, this trade didn't benefit the Sharks much at all and they lose a lottery pick. I can't believe Erik Karlsson declined that quick.
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11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 40
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I said the Sharks got slaughtered when the trade was announced and now it looks like I was right.


ikr ... it could work out really well for Ottawa.
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11 févr. 2020 à 15 h 41
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Quoting: Capfriendly81
I said the Sharks got slaughtered when the trade was announced and now it looks like I was right.


I didn't post in this topic either when the trade was announced so I can say that I was right too.
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16 juin 2020 à 9 h 46
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Is this still a win for the Sharks?
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16 juin 2020 à 11 h 11
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Quoting: MaxDomi13
Is this still a win for the Sharks?


Possibly ... it could end up being a win-win. If San Jose's 1st wins the lottery remember that it might have ended up differently if they hadn't made this trade ... they would have ranked different in the standings and it probably wouldn't still be 1st.
28 juin 2020 à 14 h 18
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Both teams won
29 oct. 2020 à 12 h 20
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15 nov. 2020 à 21 h 20
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90% of these comments did not age well
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3 déc. 2020 à 14 h 22
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Quoting: Caufzi
This will go down as maybe the worst trade of all time.


not even close
5 déc. 2020 à 21 h 42
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Remember the Sens were a non playoff team even with Karlsson, Stone and Duchene. For one year of Karlsson it was a great trade for Ottawa. Then the Sharks (who were in the Cup final with Karlsson) compounded a the problem by overpaying Karlsson and giving up those conditional picks for Karlsson. Then with Covid making a flat cap, a Sharks lose even more, since now they a have a whole lotta overpaid aging players on long term contracts.
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3 janv. 2021 à 20 h 56
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Quoting: CSickmann
Winner? Loser? This is a no brainer.

What is the condition? If Melnyk leaves they get the picks and this clownshow can finally end?

That Sharks Blue Line now. Sweet Jesus!


Quoting: Rooney
Hard to say that Sharks aren't the CLEAR winners here haha.


Quoting: kaljakori
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

How does Wilson keep doing this?


Quoting: Karimizo
Pacioretty got a better return lmao


Quoting: Danny272
How do you get less for Karlsson than what you gave up for duchene

Do you all take these back? TIM STUTZLE
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4 janv. 2021 à 5 h 40
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
Do you all take these back? TIM STUTZLE


Karlsson is still worth multiple wins above replacement and is a top-15 defender in the league. He's not a god, but he's extremely good. The team around him stinks.

So no, I won't.
12 janv. 2021 à 16 h 52
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Back here after Balcers got claimed. Here's an updated trade tree for this:

Sens Acquire:

Chris Tierney
1.6 years of Dylan Demelo
Winnipeg 2020 3rd round pick (Leevi Merilainen, 71 Overall)
2 years of Rudolfs Balcers
Josh Norris
Tim Stuetzle
NYR 2019 2nd (Mads Sogaard, 37 Overall)
2021 SJS 2nd
for
Erik Karlsson
Francis Perron
2019 Pittsburgh 3rd (Anttoni Honka, 83 Overall)

Sharks Acquire:
Erik Karlsson
1 year of Francis Perron
Vancouver 2019 6th (Timur Ibragimov, 164 Overall)
For
Dylan Demelo
Chris Tierney
Josh Norris
San Jose 2020 1st Round Pick (Tim Stuetzle, 3rd Overall)
2 years of Rudolfs Balcers
Florida 2019 2nd (Jamieson Rees, 44 Overall)
2021 SJS 2nd

Links to all the trades
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/erik-karlsson
https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/francis-perron
https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/240599
Edit: Missed one: https://www.capfriendly.com/trades/players/dylan-demelo
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29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 28
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Quoting: Rooney
Hard to say that Sharks aren't the CLEAR winners here haha.


Nah, it's very easy to say that. Ever heard of Tim Sutuzle?
29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 31
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Quoting: Caufzi
This will go down as maybe the worst trade of all time.


Yes, you are right.

Quoting: kaljakori
Whoever voted fair deal has to be a delusional Sens fan.


It's quite a lot of fun to go through the past trade reactions and look at how wrong people were lol.
29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 45
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Quoting: Saskleaf
Nah, it's very easy to say that. Ever heard of Tim Sutuzle?


Hahaha, I can admit when I'm wrong and BOY, was this the wrong take!!
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29 janv. 2021 à 12 h 47
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Quoting: Rooney
Hahaha, I can admit when I'm wrong and BOY, was this the wrong take!!


I would have said the same thing if I was here on this thread at the time so no worries. Just fun to go and see how wrong people were about trades lol.
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29 janv. 2021 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: Rooney
Hahaha, I can admit when I'm wrong and BOY, was this the wrong take!!


Absolutely no one expected the Sharks to crash and burn like they did in 19-20. They were 2 games away from the Stanley Cup finals the year prior. Everything just feel apart at the worst possible team.
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29 janv. 2021 à 13 h 55
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Quoting: LeafsFan4Ever34
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You 100% would've said the Sharks won this trade had you been here when it happened.
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29 janv. 2021 à 17 h 4
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Never mind the trade, the Sharks compounded the problem by signing him to to a 10.5m X 7 contract. Gee, I know the Leafs can criticized for having their top 4 making 40.5, but the Sharks have
34.5m in long contracts in aging declining players.
29 janv. 2021 à 17 h 25
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Quoting: palhal
Never mind the trade, the Sharks compounded the problem by signing him to to a 10.5m X 7 contract. Gee, I know the Leafs can criticized for having their top 4 making 40.5, but the Sharks have
34.5m in long contracts in aging declining players.


I mean, the Leafs are paying big money for players performing at an elite level (and 3 out of the 4 are in their early 20's). So one can defend the Leafs payment of the big four, but yeah, the Sharks big contracts are all on aging players who have declined rapidly. Not a good look.
30 janv. 2021 à 8 h 47
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Quoting: mondo
You 100% would've said the Sharks won this trade had you been here when it happened.


No. I said "overpayment much" so no
 
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