Sammy, you sound like a Red Wing fan. You acknowledge that Nyquist will help Dallas so much that Dallas will still miss the playoffs. So isn't one year rental of Nyquist to the Stars for a first rounder rather absurd?

Yeah, but they would bring Nyquist to help them but they would not succeed. When making deal for Nyquist GM of Dallas would acknowledge that this would help them, but then in the end of the season it hasnt helped, they would end their season like Florida did last year in points. I was trying to simulate real life scenario and looked at dallas' lineup after this trade as much as possible and also Nyquist would re-sign in Dallas. First deal was 2nd for Nyquist without retention, but retained he would be worth 1st, especially playing top6 minutes..

A second for nyquist seems to be the right asking price. A 4th for frk is crazy he is a bottom 6 forward with little value. Vanek added the no trade because he's sick of moving every spring so no that won't happen. I just don't agree with this line of thinking. Howard isn't worth a 2nd is he. I mean he's a pure rental and he may be an above average goalie but will he be the reason Carolina makes a playoff run , I don't think so.

A second for nyquist seems to be the right asking price. A 4th for frk is crazy he is a bottom 6 forward with little value. Vanek added the no trade because he's sick of moving every spring so no that won't happen. I just don't agree with this line of thinking. Howard isn't worth a 2nd is he. I mean he's a pure rental and he may be an above average goalie but will he be the reason Carolina makes a playoff run , I don't think so.

Carolina doesn’t need another backup goalie. They’ve got 2 already.

Your being rather harsh here. Frk is a very similar player to Frank Vatrano, and the Bruins got a 3rd for him at the 2018 deadline. From my point of view, Frk has shown better performance than Vatrano so if he were traded within the division (like Vatrano at the deadline) he could even stretch a 3rd + prospect. Howard is a very good professional goalie, and whenever a team retains 50% of a players salary it adds significant value to the return. A 2nd is more than fair in this case (because goalie market is wierd), plus he can be very streaky and has the experience as a no'1 to both make the playoffs and then perform in the playoffs - Darling and Mrazek cant compete with that resume' if you were wondering. Lastly, if Vanek was sick of moving he would have signed a 2 year deal. I expect that the NTC is so he can chose the team he moves too, Florida and Columbus didn't exactly reap the success he was looking for, so I expect it gives him more influence on joining a top 4 team (very clever).

Howard is better than those 2 wannabe starters combined..