SalarySwishSalarySwish
Forums/NHL Signings

Ottawa Senators signed Mark Stone (1 Year / $7,350,000 AAV)

Was this a good signing?
Le graphique a été masqué

Options de sondage


3 août 2018 à 9 h 52
#1
Mark Stone has signed a new contract with the Ottawa Senators.
Contrat standard
Contrats comparablesCOMPARER CE CONTRAT
SIGNÉ PAR: Pierre Dorion
Durée: 1 an
Valeur: 7 350 000 $
Statut à l’échéance du contrat: UFA
% Cap Info-bulle: 9,25
Contrat signé avec: Logo de Sénateurs d'OttawaSénateurs d'Ottawa
Date de signature: 3 août 2018
Source: CapFriendly

Mark Stone a signé un contrat de 1 ans d'une valeur de 7 350 000 $ avec les Sénateurs d'Ottawa, le 3 août 2018. Le contrat comporte un cap hit de 7 350 000 $.

SAISONClauseCap hitInfo-bulleAAV Info-bulleBonis de performanceInfo-bulleBonis de signatureInfo-bulleSalaire de baseInfo-bulleSalaire totalInfo-bulleSalaire mineuresInfo-bulle
2018-197 350 000 $7 350 000 $0 $0 $7 350 000 $7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
TOTAL7 350 000 $7 350 000 $0 $0 $7 350 000 $7 350 000 $7 350 000 $
Icône d'arbitrage demandé ARBITRAGE: Ce contrat a été signé suite à une demande de cas porté en arbitrage
3 août 2018 à 9 h 54
#2
Habs/Pens fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: oct. 2017
Messages: 852
Mentions "j'aime": 273
I'd sign him longer but the money is right for him.
bhavikp27 a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 9 h 56
#3
Habs
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2017
Messages: 409
Mentions "j'aime": 136
A massive name added to next year's UFA class
Hedman77, CD282, toque and 8 others a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 9 h 58
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 3,490
Mentions "j'aime": 1,559
3 août 2018 à 10 h 2
#5
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juin 2016
Messages: 12,578
Mentions "j'aime": 5,454
Good money, hopefully he leaves next year.
Hedman77 a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 2
#6
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: févr. 2018
Messages: 42
Mentions "j'aime": 44
So he is going to be UFA next summer, plus he cannot sign an extension before Jan 1st 2019... IMO this is looking really bad for Ottawa.

Let's keep in mind that :
- Karlsson's situation is not looking good.
- If Ceci gets a 1 year deal, he can go to arb next year then go UFA on July 2020.
- Duchene is UFA.
- Anderson wants out.
- And now Stone is UFA...

What a mess this has become.
Hockeylover360, Bryzgalovs_bears, Hedman77 and 10 others a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 15
#7
Log off the internet
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 7,830
Mentions "j'aime": 3,866
*dumpster fire intensifies*
Ragsandbluesfan, mhan63, DragonRaptorHybrid and 5 others a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 20
#8
Black Lives Matter
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 29,920
Mentions "j'aime": 4,651
Now he's a year away from UFA. Just like the Hayes and Nelson signings, the difference being that he's one of their top players.
Willian_Cardoso a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 20
#9
Black Lives Matter
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 29,920
Mentions "j'aime": 4,651
If he wants 9M next year they'll have to give it to him. Really.
Hockeylover360 a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 32
#10
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 604
Mentions "j'aime": 119
I fell in to a burning ring of fire. it burns burns burns as the flames get higher. is their anyway that Ottawa can hold an auction for their players and then start with all new ones hahahahahahah
Hedman4Norris a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 34
#11
Emotionally in 2018
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: nov. 2016
Messages: 9,290
Mentions "j'aime": 3,387
Quoting: rangersandislesfan
If he wants 9M next year they'll have to give it to him. Really.


He wants out. Hence the one year deal to bring him to UFA status. Ottawa’s three best players are all pending UFAs. They already traded one of their best guys for pennies on the dollar. It’s amazing to think how this team went South so fast. They were in double overtime of Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and all of a sudden this is what’s going on. It’s a damn shame
3 août 2018 à 10 h 40
#12
Black Lives Matter
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 29,920
Mentions "j'aime": 4,651
Quoting: krakowitz
He wants out. Hence the one year deal to bring him to UFA status. Ottawa’s three best players are all pending UFAs. They already traded one of their best guys for pennies on the dollar. It’s amazing to think how this team went South so fast. They were in double overtime of Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and all of a sudden this is what’s going on. It’s a damn shame


There's no way to know he wants out. Maybe he does, or maybe he just wants more money and they might be willing to give it to him next year. And it's unlikely that all 3 of Karlsson, Stone, and Duchene leave, but imagine if they do. Then their best player would be ... Bobby Ryan? squinty smile
3 août 2018 à 10 h 42
#13
Habs/Pens fan
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: oct. 2017
Messages: 852
Mentions "j'aime": 273
Quoting: rangersandislesfan
There's no way to know he wants out. Maybe he does, or maybe he just wants more money and they might be willing to give it to him next year. And it's unlikely that all 3 of Karlsson, Stone, and Duchene leave, but imagine if they do. Then their best player would be ... Bobby Ryan? squinty smile


Chabot maybe but yeah, this team is going down hill fast.
rangersandislesfan a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 10 h 59
#14
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2018
Messages: 16,993
Mentions "j'aime": 11,995
If the sens could have gotten a long term deal done at line 7.5-8 that would have been ideal. If he repeats the success he had last season without the injuries, he's going to get like 9million plus, and that's way more than that liver stealing jackass would ever be willing to do.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 1
#15
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 24,015
Mentions "j'aime": 7,737
Quoting: GaryMcBettman
So he is going to be UFA next summer, plus he cannot sign an extension before Jan 1st 2019... IMO this is looking really bad for Ottawa.

Let's keep in mind that :
- Karlsson's situation is not looking good.
- If Ceci gets a 1 year deal, he can go to arb next year then go UFA on July 2020.
- Duchene is UFA.
- Anderson wants out.
- And now Stone is UFA...

What a mess this has become.


They're going to reset the entire team at the deadline, all in one go. Stone, Duchene, Dzingel, Pyatt, Paajarvi, Karlsson, Wideman - all gone for picks, prospects and young players under control.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 4
#16
Black Lives Matter
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 29,920
Mentions "j'aime": 4,651
Quoting: Hockeylover360
Chabot maybe but yeah, this team is going down hill fast.


Maybe by then, it depends how Chabot plays.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 4
#17
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 24,015
Mentions "j'aime": 7,737
Quoting: rangersandislesfan
There's no way to know he wants out. Maybe he does, or maybe he just wants more money and they might be willing to give it to him next year. And it's unlikely that all 3 of Karlsson, Stone, and Duchene leave, but imagine if they do. Then their best player would be ... Bobby Ryan? squinty smile


Depends who they pick up in the deadline trades. I imagine the return for Karlsson will include someone better than Chabot or Ryan.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 12
#18
Let's go Pens!
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 1,788
Mentions "j'aime": 382
Man, nobody wants to play for Ottawa anymore. Poor Sens fans...
Trickster et ForeverDED a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 26
#19
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: août 2018
Messages: 2
Mentions "j'aime": 2
Quoting: krakowitz
He wants out. Hence the one year deal to bring him to UFA status. Ottawa’s three best players are all pending UFAs. They already traded one of their best guys for pennies on the dollar. It’s amazing to think how this team went South so fast. They were in double overtime of Game 7 of the Eastern Conference Finals, and all of a sudden this is what’s going on. It’s a damn shame


I think it's pretty clear that this is about three things
1. If you get that far in the playoffs you don't add by substraction but you just add (i mean roster players of course). I do think Duchene is better than Turris but the latter was their clear No. 1 center and you can't trade away your No. 1 center even if it's "just" a Kyle Turris and hope that brings you over the top.
2. Dorion is just not a good GM. I pointed it out with the departure of Turris and the latest "great" move was trading away Hoffman for a cap burden like Boedker. Doug Wilson (Sharks GM) kicked Dorions ass by getting almost market value for Hoffman and sending him back into the Atlantic Division (pretty hilarious if you're not supporting the Sens).
3. Eugene melnyk can't sit back and tries to control everything but - and that's the problem - he just doesn't have a clue about hockey.

That's why Karlsson (no explanation needed), Stone (makes it clear with that contract) and Duchene (doesn't want to be part of a rebuild in Colorado so he's not going to cheer for it in Ottawa) want out and i can absolutly understand them.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 28
#20
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2018
Messages: 973
Mentions "j'aime": 243
Quoting: CD282
They're going to reset the entire team at the deadline, all in one go. Stone, Duchene, Dzingel, Pyatt, Paajarvi, Karlsson, Wideman - all gone for picks, prospects and young players under control.


Why wait? They should get more in return for a full year of a UFA then just for the last few months of the season.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 30
#21
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 9,721
Mentions "j'aime": 2,805
2019-2020 NHL Lockout coming soon...

Btw.. Is Pierre Dorion even a real General Manager?
Trickster et Joe_La_Garnotte a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 34
#22
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mars 2017
Messages: 24,015
Mentions "j'aime": 7,737
Quoting: Newanda
Why wait? They should get more in return for a full year of a UFA then just for the last few months of the season.


Most contending teams can't fit another $6.5 - 7.35M under their cap for the whole year. Because the cap hit is calculated daily, by the deadline those figures will have gone down to more like $2.2 - 2.5M, which is manageable for many more teams. Also, teams will know where they are in the standings, whereas right now fewer GM's are going to mortgage the future if they aren't certain they'll be in the race.
FireShero a aimé ceci.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 38
#23
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2017
Messages: 9,552
Mentions "j'aime": 3,052
once again, we have the random troll who voted “yes”
3 août 2018 à 11 h 39
#24
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: janv. 2018
Messages: 973
Mentions "j'aime": 243
Quoting: CD282
Most contending teams can't fit another $6.5 - 7.35M under their cap for the whole year. Because the cap hit is calculated daily, by the deadline those figures will have gone down to more like $2.2 - 2.5M, which is manageable for many more teams. Also, teams will know where they are in the standings, whereas right now fewer GM's are going to mortgage the future if they aren't certain they'll be in the race.


Yeah that makes sense, also forgot they don't even have their 1st round pick anymore so...... lose for Hughes isn't even an option.
3 août 2018 à 11 h 45
#25
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: avr. 2017
Messages: 345
Mentions "j'aime": 234
Would have expected longer term, particularly for this Cap Hit. That said, it’s inconsequential (I wish $7M could be inconsequential for me, LOL) as the Sens will neither be a Cap team nor will they have to worry about this being good/bad as he is unlikely to have that major of a decline in 1 season.
What the Sens are doing is cleaning house. There will be an unprecedented sell off of their pending UFAs (and likely some other pieces as well). By April there could be just a handful of players remaining from their Conference Final team of just 14 months ago (seems impossible to imagine).

The lack of money on the books beyond 2019 could make the team easier to sell to a new ownership group, in Ottawa or elsewhere (I hope not as the NHL has deep roots in Ottawa dating back to the 1910’s - the Senators, new and old, have been in the League for over a third of it’s entire history & it would be a shame to lose it).
The most unfortunate thing for the Sens is that their 1st round pick this year is in the hands of the Avelanche. No matter how many 1st rounders they get this year - and they’ll get at least 2 this year alone for Karlsson & Stone, respectively - none will be as high as their’s.
The question that remains, to me (other than the sale of the team) is what Dorion’s Expiry Date will be? Before he goes and bungled more trades and squanders their picks, I would expect management to make a move and bring in a fresh face to start building from as close to scratch as you ever will get. that it hasn’t happened so far signals to me that there may be a sale in the near future and that they are waiting for a new ownership group to install their own handpicked GM.
 
Répondre
To create a post please Login or S'inscrire
Question:
Options:
Chargement de l'animation
Soumettre les modifications du sondage