Tavares is not the reason Toronto hasn't gone past the first round in the past couple of seasons.

It’s debatable.

It's actually not. There are a plethora of other reasons why the Leafs haven't made substantial progress, and these issues have been addressed in the time between this signing and now. Tavares joining the team was not one of them.

Likely not, but it's not like he played a huge part in trying to get over that slump.

8 PT's in 12 playoff games isn't what you should expect from an 11 million dollar player

Who's fault was it then?Also,he is overpaid, so that is also some dislike to him. @TheLeafsSeason @LGR @dzad96

Not really. He's lived up to that contract and more. 2018-19 it was all Nylander's fault and 2019-20 it was pretty much every leaf except Nylander and Matthews (and there was that Covid thing).

All he did was get 47 goals and 88 points, and compared to how bad he is at Defence, and he's not a playoff performer, he's overpaid.

That's not "all he did". He got 60 points in only 63 games due to injury and... well, you know. Also he is the captain. Also he has 30 career playoff points in 36 games, or 8 points in 12 games with the leafs. Sure, nothing crazy, but he doesn't completely disappear. He still produces.

It wasn't one person's fault.

Ya, but he’s not worth 11 mil.

True.

It's debatable. What's not debatable is that Tavares is not to blame for the leafs failing to move past round 1.

Maybe.

lmao

Ive confessed this before. Tavares has been caught with my wife. Hence I cannot like him

lol why am I getting tagged in this exactly?

Because you said it was a bad decision to sign Tavares.

Fair. Still stand by my statement.

Jesus I knew he was gonna sign in Toronto but I didn’t expect him to get that much money

Yep.

Damn, reading these comments make me feel really smart. People should just accept what I say as the truth.

I'm pretty sure the Isles are happy with Lamourello for Tavares

People acting like this one decision is the cause for every single thing that happens in Toronto.

John Tavares is not responsible for Mitch Marner and Auston Matthews scoring a combined one goal in seven games against a team that finished 19th in the regular season. John Tavares is not responsible for Alex Galchenyuk blindly throwing a puck in the middle of the ice that immediately lead to a Suzuki GWOTG. John Tavares is not responsible for him being injured and hospitalized 10 minutes into Game 1 of that series. John Tavares is not responsible for Jake Muzzin getting hurt at the end of that series. John Tavares is not responsible for Sheldon Keefe not adjusting to how the Canadiens were defending them in the neutral zone.

As currently constructed, that roster was good enough to beat the Montreal Canadiens. It went to seven games. Two of their four losses went to overtime. There are reasons why they didn't win, yes. Maybe if they had Tavares's $11M to spend, they could have gotten some more depth scoring and players who are tougher to play against. Or, John Tavares could have been healthy. Do I believe that having John Tavares in the lineup would have made a difference in a series decided by three one goal games, including two in overtime? Yes. Absolutely.

And let's not forget, Montreal is now in the Stanley Cup Finals. Toronto came closer to beating them than Vegas did. It's not a perfect comparison by any means, but it's not out of the question that a healthy Tavares (and Muzzin) are taking the Leafs to at least the semi finals. That's not to take away anything from Montreal, because they've certainly earned it. And if they've earned it as much as we all say they have, does it really look that bad on Toronto for losing to them without two of their key pieces? Nothing that happened to Toronto in the postseason has anything to do with John Tavares's play or this contract.

Not sure what is implied here.....

JT has been great every year for us, and we still managed to upgrade the right side with Brodie.

Your comment implied that Tavares was going to turn this team into a true contender and its been the opposite

We were considered contenders this year? We blew the first round because AM and Mitch didn't bother to show up (JT being injured and Price being insane also played a big role). Tavares vastly improved this team, and has not been the reason at all that they lost since he's joined.