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Most Over/Under Rated Player from each Team V2

29 juin 2018 à 10 h 57
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Under/Over respectivly

Ducks: Henrique // Montour
Coyotes: Raanta // Stepan
Bruins: Krejci // Mccavoy
Sabres: Mccabe // Reinhart
Flames: Gaudreau // Hamonic
Hurricanes: Teravainen // Faulk
Chicago: Hinostroza // Saad
Avalanche: Rantenen // Johnson
Stars: Lindell // Radulov
Red Wings: Larkin // Dekeyser
Oilers: RNH // Klefbom
Panthers: Trochek // Dadanov
LA: Muzzin // Toffoli
Minnesota: Dumba // Zucker
Montreal: Danault // Alzner
Nashville: Ekholm // Johansen
Devils: Palmieri // Severson
Islanders: Lee // Bailey
Rangers: Skej // Vesey
Senators: Stone // Ceci
Flyers: Patrick // Gostisbehere
Penguins: Hornqvist // Maata
San Jose: Hertl // Tierney
Blues: Edmundson // Steen
Lightning: Gourde // Killorn
Leafs: Hyman // Gardiner
Canucks: Horvat // Edler
VGK: Theordore // Neal
Capitals: Niskanen // Wilson
Winnipeg: Connor // Ehlers
30 juin 2018 à 13 h 49
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Under/Over respectivly

Ducks: Henrique // Montour
Coyotes: Raanta // Stepan
Bruins: Krejci // Mccavoy
Sabres: Mccabe // Reinhart
Flames: Gaudreau // Hamonic
Hurricanes: Teravainen // Faulk
Chicago: Hinostroza // Saad
Avalanche: Rantenen // Johnson
Stars: Lindell // Radulov
Red Wings: Larkin // Dekeyser
Oilers: RNH // Klefbom
Panthers: Trochek // Dadanov
LA: Muzzin // Toffoli
Minnesota: Dumba // Zucker
Montreal: Danault // Alzner
Nashville: Ekholm // Johansen
Devils: Palmieri // Severson
Islanders: Lee // Bailey
Rangers: Skej // Vesey
Senators: Stone // Ceci
Flyers: Patrick // Gostisbehere
Penguins: Hornqvist // Maata
San Jose: Hertl // Tierney
Blues: Edmundson // Steen
Lightning: Gourde // Killorn
Leafs: Hyman // Gardiner
Canucks: Horvat // Edler
VGK: Theordore // Neal
Capitals: Niskanen // Wilson
Winnipeg: Connor // Ehlers


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1 juill. 2018 à 0 h 30
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3 juill. 2018 à 10 h 45
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Underrated player is shown first, overrated player second.

ANA: Kase/Perry
ARI: Ekman-Larsson/Connauton
BOS: Heinen/Backes
BUF: Ristolainen/Sobotka
CGY: Backlund/Frolik
CAR: Faulk/Ferland
CHI: Hinostroza/Kane
COL: Rantanen/Landeskog
CBJ: Panarin/Murray
DAL: Klingberg/Janmark
DET: Green/Abdelkader
EDM: Talbot/Klefbom
FLA: Barkov/Bjugstad
LAK: Phaneuf/Brown
MIN: Zucker/Niederreiter
MTL: Pacioretty/Gallagher
NSH: Subban/Turris
NJD: Boyle/Zajac
NYI: Lee/Bailey
NYR: Skjei/Kreider
OTT: Ryan/Duchene
PHI: Giroux/Simmonds
PIT: Schultz/Letang
SJS: Kane/Vlasic
STL: Steen/Edmundson
TBL: Girardi/Killorn
TOR: Hyman/Gardiner
VAN: Tanev/Roussel
VGK: Marchessault/Karlsson
WSH: Backstrom/Wilson
WPG: Little/Byfuglien
5 juill. 2018 à 14 h 56
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Underrated player is shown first, overrated player second.

ANA: Kase/Perry
ARI: Ekman-Larsson/Connauton
BOS: Heinen/Backes
BUF: Ristolainen/Sobotka
CGY: Backlund/Frolik
CAR: Faulk/Ferland
CHI: Hinostroza/Kane
COL: Rantanen/Landeskog
CBJ: Panarin/Murray
DAL: Klingberg/Janmark
DET: Green/Abdelkader
EDM: Talbot/Klefbom
FLA: Barkov/Bjugstad
LAK: Phaneuf/Brown
MIN: Zucker/Niederreiter
MTL: Pacioretty/Gallagher
NSH: Subban/Turris
NJD: Boyle/Zajac
NYI: Lee/Bailey
NYR: Skjei/Kreider
OTT: Ryan/Duchene
PHI: Giroux/Simmonds
PIT: Schultz/Letang
SJS: Kane/Vlasic
STL: Steen/Edmundson
TBL: Girardi/Killorn
TOR: Hyman/Gardiner
VAN: Tanev/Roussel
VGK: Marchessault/Karlsson
WSH: Backstrom/Wilson
WPG: Little/Byfuglien


In what world are Ekman-Larsson, Panarin, Klingberg, Barkov, Pacioretty, Subban, Giroux, Marchessault, and Backstrom underrated?

And in what world are PATRICK FREAKING KANE, Klefbom, Duchene, Simmonds, Vlasic, Karlsson, and Byfuglien overrated?
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6 juill. 2018 à 10 h 34
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Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
In what world are Ekman-Larsson, Panarin, Klingberg, Barkov, Pacioretty, Subban, Giroux, Marchessault, and Backstrom underrated?

And in what world are PATRICK FREAKING KANE, Klefbom, Duchene, Simmonds, Vlasic, Karlsson, and Byfuglien overrated?


You do know what 'underrated' and 'overrated' mean, right? neutral

Seriously though, most of those guys on the top are on teams that i couldn't pick an obvious player for. OEL is sometimes underrated because he plays on a bad team. Panarin isn't as underrated, but i couldn't think of anyone else. So i went with a guy who i feel may already be a 'superstar' when i'm not sure if others think so as much. Klingberg kind of quietly had a Norris trophy type season (not that he should have won it, but i might have put him up for it instead of Subban), Barkov, okay, you're probably right about Barkov, people don't really underrate him as much anymore. Pacioretty scores 30 goals consistently and people act like he's not that good after ONE year where he struggled. Subban was another that i just couldn't think of one. Most people don't underrate him but some don't notice his defensive game as much. Giroux SHOULD have been up for the Hart trophy this year. Marchessault might already be a 'superstar' (maybe), and Backstrom has always been underrated ... always.

Kane i've talked about too many times, and Duchene, and Klefbom. Simmonds was mainly because i couldn't think of anyone else. He's probably not a 1st liner like some think he is. Vlasic is NOT the best defenseman in the NHL, like some people have said he is. W Karlsson had one good year and people are acting like he's already a superstar. And Byfuglien ... well, i've talked about him too many times too.
6 juill. 2018 à 11 h 0
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You do know what 'underrated' and 'overrated' mean, right? neutral

Seriously though, most of those guys on the top are on teams that i couldn't pick an obvious player for. OEL is sometimes underrated because he plays on a bad team. Panarin isn't as underrated, but i couldn't think of anyone else. So i went with a guy who i feel may already be a 'superstar' when i'm not sure if others think so as much. Klingberg kind of quietly had a Norris trophy type season (not that he should have won it, but i might have put him up for it instead of Subban), Barkov, okay, you're probably right about Barkov, people don't really underrate him as much anymore. Pacioretty scores 30 goals consistently and people act like he's not that good after ONE year where he struggled. Subban was another that i just couldn't think of one. Most people don't underrate him but some don't notice his defensive game as much. Giroux SHOULD have been up for the Hart trophy this year. Marchessault might already be a 'superstar' (maybe), and Backstrom has always been underrated ... always.

Kane i've talked about too many times, and Duchene, and Klefbom. Simmonds was mainly because i couldn't think of anyone else. He's probably not a 1st liner like some think he is. Vlasic is NOT the best defenseman in the NHL, like some people have said he is. W Karlsson had one good year and people are acting like he's already a superstar. And Byfuglien ... well, i've talked about him too many times too.


you couldnt think of anyone overrated for philly? Lehtera? MacDonald?
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
You do know what 'underrated' and 'overrated' mean, right? neutral

Seriously though, most of those guys on the top are on teams that i couldn't pick an obvious player for. OEL is sometimes underrated because he plays on a bad team. Panarin isn't as underrated, but i couldn't think of anyone else. So i went with a guy who i feel may already be a 'superstar' when i'm not sure if others think so as much. Klingberg kind of quietly had a Norris trophy type season (not that he should have won it, but i might have put him up for it instead of Subban), Barkov, okay, you're probably right about Barkov, people don't really underrate him as much anymore. Pacioretty scores 30 goals consistently and people act like he's not that good after ONE year where he struggled. Subban was another that i just couldn't think of one. Most people don't underrate him but some don't notice his defensive game as much. Giroux SHOULD have been up for the Hart trophy this year. Marchessault might already be a 'superstar' (maybe), and Backstrom has always been underrated ... always.

Kane i've talked about too many times, and Duchene, and Klefbom. Simmonds was mainly because i couldn't think of anyone else. He's probably not a 1st liner like some think he is. Vlasic is NOT the best defenseman in the NHL, like some people have said he is. W Karlsson had one good year and people are acting like he's already a superstar. And Byfuglien ... well, i've talked about him too many times too.


Literally everyone you named as underrated are legit stars in the game today. Generally when you talk about underrated players, you're supposed to talk about guys that aren't first liners and top pairing defensemen.

Kane is a top 3 RW in the game, no way he is overrated. Duchene was able to put up 60 points on a terrible Ottawa team while playing with the shell of Bobby Ryan. I'll give you Klefbom, he had a poor year even though he was a legit number one defenseman at age 23. Simmonds is a top power forward in the league and had a down year because he got stuck playing with Filppula, Weal, and the rookie Nolan Patrick, in addition to playing fewer minutes than he has in the past. Vlasic is not the best defenseman in the NHL, but he is certainly one of the best defensive defensemen in the league, likely top 3-5. Very few play better in their own end than he does. Karlsson has had only one good year, true, but he was also a catalyst for Vegas' offense while also playing an excellent two-way game and staying out of the box. Scoring 43 goals is also nothing to scoff at. I know what your Byfuglien argument is so I'm not even going to try and reason with you on that one.
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I don’t understand the logic behind both of you picking Gardiner as overrated. We all know his defense is subpar at best
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
Underrated player is shown first, overrated player second.

ANA: Kase/Perry
ARI: Ekman-Larsson/Connauton
BOS: Heinen/Backes
BUF: Ristolainen/Sobotka
CGY: Backlund/Frolik
CAR: Faulk/Ferland
CHI: Hinostroza/Kane
COL: Rantanen/Landeskog
CBJ: Panarin/Murray
DAL: Klingberg/Janmark
DET: Green/Abdelkader
EDM: Talbot/Klefbom
FLA: Barkov/Bjugstad
LAK: Phaneuf/Brown
MIN: Zucker/Niederreiter
MTL: Pacioretty/Gallagher
NSH: Subban/Turris
NJD: Boyle/Zajac
NYI: Lee/Bailey
NYR: Skjei/Kreider
OTT: Ryan/Duchene
PHI: Giroux/Simmonds
PIT: Schultz/Letang
SJS: Kane/Vlasic
STL: Steen/Edmundson
TBL: Girardi/Killorn
TOR: Hyman/Gardiner
VAN: Tanev/Roussel
VGK: Marchessault/Karlsson
WSH: Backstrom/Wilson
WPG: Little/Byfuglien


How the heck is Gallagher overrated? He’s been underrated his whole career until last year when he scored 30 goals and all of a sudden he’s overrated?
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6 juill. 2018 à 12 h 0
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Girardi is underrated... yeah okay
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ANA - Gibson // Manson
ARI - Fischer // Stepan
BOS - Rask // Carlo
BUF - Scandella // McCabe
CAL - Monahan // Brodie
CAR - Teravainen // Faulk
CHI - Hinostroza // Saad (a lot of options here)
COL - Kerfoot // Zadorov
CBJ - Dubois // Dubinsky
DAL - Janmark // Methot
DET - Bertuzzi // Green
EDM - Klefbom // Strome
FLA - Trocheck // Matheson
LAK - Carter // Martinez
MIN - Brodin // Niederreiter
MTL - Danault // Drouin (lots of options here too)
NSH - Arvidsson // Josi
NJD - Palmieri // Vatanen
NYI - Leddy // Bailey
NYR - Skjei // Shattenkirk
OTT - Ryan // Anderson
PHI - Konecny // Simmonds
PIT - Guentzel // Letang
SJS - Meier // Kane
STL - Schwartz // Bozak
TAM - Stralman // Gourde
TOR - Andersen // Reilly
VAN - Horvat // Gagner
VGK - Miller // Reaves
WAS - Vrana // Burakovsky
WPG - Lowry // Perreault
6 juill. 2018 à 12 h 27
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you couldnt think of anyone overrated for philly? Lehtera? MacDonald?


Not many people are supposed to agree about a player being underrated or overrated. If everyone agrees, then they can't be underrated or overrated.

Quoting: DoctorBreakfast
Literally everyone you named as underrated are legit stars in the game today. Generally when you talk about underrated players, you're supposed to talk about guys that aren't first liners and top pairing defensemen.

Kane is a top 3 RW in the game, no way he is overrated. Duchene was able to put up 60 points on a terrible Ottawa team while playing with the shell of Bobby Ryan. I'll give you Klefbom, he had a poor year even though he was a legit number one defenseman at age 23. Simmonds is a top power forward in the league and had a down year because he got stuck playing with Filppula, Weal, and the rookie Nolan Patrick, in addition to playing fewer minutes than he has in the past. Vlasic is not the best defenseman in the NHL, but he is certainly one of the best defensive defensemen in the league, likely top 3-5. Very few play better in their own end than he does. Karlsson has had only one good year, true, but he was also a catalyst for Vegas' offense while also playing an excellent two-way game and staying out of the box. Scoring 43 goals is also nothing to scoff at. I know what your Byfuglien argument is so I'm not even going to try and reason with you on that one.


I only read the 1st paragraph. I'm not reading the next one because i know it's just gonna be naming how a bunch of these guys are too good to be underrated. Since when can superstars not be underrated?

Quoting: EthanK24
How the heck is Gallagher overrated? He’s been underrated his whole career until last year when he scored 30 goals and all of a sudden he’s overrated?


I didn't notice he got 30 goals this year.
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Girardi is underrated... yeah okay

He's pretty good for a guy who's trash
6 juill. 2018 à 12 h 56
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ANA - Henrique / Cogliano
ARZ - Perlini / Stephan
BOS - Krejci / Krug
BUF - Reinhart / McCabe
CGY - Backlund / Hamonic
CAR - Terravainen / Pesce
CHI - Hinnistroza / Crawford
COL - Kerfoot / Cole
CBJ - Bjorkstrand / Foligno
DAL - Faksa / Bishop
DET - Bertuzzi / DeKeyser
EDM - Nurse / Larsson
FLA - Trocheck / Petrovic
LA - Muzzin / Toffoli
MIN - Coyle / Suter
MTL - Byron / Alzner
NSH - Jarnkrok / Johanssen
NJD - Palmieri / Severson
NYI - Lehner / Bailey
NYR - Spooner / Shattinkerk
OTT - Stone / Pageau
PHI - Konecny / Lehtera
PIT - Dumoulin / Johnson
SJS - LaBanc / Kane
STL - Dunn / Bozak
TBL - Palat / McDonaugh
TOR - Andersen / Zaitsev
VAN - Stecher / Sutter
WSH - Stephenson / Eller
WPG - Trouba / Little
6 juill. 2018 à 12 h 58
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He's pretty good for a guy who's trash


I’m no genius, but it sounds like your argument as to why a player is good is because he’s bad...

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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I only read the 1st paragraph. I'm not reading the next one because i know it's just gonna be naming how a bunch of these guys are too good to be underrated. Since when can superstars not be underrated?


I'm not going to read this because it's probably idiotic and doesn't make any sense.
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ANA - Miller / Montour
ARI - Fischer / Stepan
BOS - Krejci / Rask
BUF - Bogosian / Beaulieu
CLG - Tkachuk / Frolik
CAR - Slavin / Ferland
CHI - Crawford / Kunitz
COL - Kerfoot / Johnson
CBJ - Bjorkstrand / Foligno
DAL - Janmark / Methot
DET - Zetterberg / Nielsen
EDM - Nurse / Larsson
FLA - Trochek / Petrovic
LAK - Brown / Muzzin
MIN - Brodin / Suter
MTL - Byron / Schlemko
NSH - Forsberg / Rinne
NJD - Palmeri / Severson
NYI - Eberle / Ladd
NYR - Skej / Hayes
OTT - Ryan / Ceci
PHI - Provorov / Elliott
PIT - Guentzel / Maata
SJS - Vlasic / Kane
STL - Edmunson / Allen
TBL - Point / McDonagh
TOR - Hyman / Zaitsev
VAN - Baerschi / Markstrom
VGK - Karlsson / Reaves
WSH - Stephenson / Burakovsky
WPG - Roslovic / Perrault
6 juill. 2018 à 16 h 40
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Leafs most underrated has to be Connor Brown, overrated is Nikita Zaitsev.
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ANA - Miller / Montour
ARI - Fischer / Stepan
BOS - Krejci / Rask
BUF - Bogosian / Beaulieu
CLG - Tkachuk / Frolik
CAR - Slavin / Ferland
CHI - Crawford / Kunitz
COL - Kerfoot / Johnson
CBJ - Bjorkstrand / Foligno
DAL - Janmark / Methot
DET - Zetterberg / Nielsen
EDM - Nurse / Larsson
FLA - Trochek / Petrovic
LAK - Brown / Muzzin
MIN - Brodin / Suter
MTL - Byron / Schlemko
NSH - Forsberg / Rinne
NJD - Palmeri / Severson
NYI - Eberle / Ladd
NYR - Skej / Hayes
OTT - Ryan / Ceci
PHI - Provorov / Elliott
PIT - Guentzel / Maata
SJS - Vlasic / Kane
STL - Edmunson / Allen
TBL - Point / McDonagh
TOR - Hyman / Zaitsev
VAN - Baerschi / Markstrom
VGK - Karlsson / Reaves
WSH - Stephenson / Burakovsky
WPG - Roslovic / Perrault


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I’m no genius, but it sounds like your argument as to why a player is good is because he’s bad...

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The 'trash' part was a joke.
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I'm not going to read this because it's probably idiotic and doesn't make any sense.

I'm not going to read this because ... well, it's too late, i read it.
6 juill. 2018 à 21 h 49
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Wayne Simmonds had a down year last year because he had a ton of injuries he played though. I wouldn't put him on the over rated list for that.
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everyone is arguing about this but its so subjective. each person has their own perception of how good each player is, which means a player that is overrated according to one person may be underrated according to another person
 
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