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Tavares isn't Stamkos

Créé par: Bruinsdiehard
Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 27 juin 2018
Publié: 27 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Has nobody pointed out the fact that Tavares and Stamkos were in very different situations career-wise when reaching the cusp of UFA status? Stamkos had just made the SCF and the ECF in his prior two seasons before re-signing with Tampa (albeit he was injured the playoffs before his new contract). The Islanders have missed the playoffs the past two years, and the last two teams to win the Cup reside in that division. Point is, Stamkos had a reason to re-sign with the Lightning as his team was a contender at the time. The Islanders are not, and cannot reasonably be expected to be one until at least 2 years from now.

Anyways, here is another JT to Boston scenario where they move money to make it work. I still don't believe that Backes will waive his NMC to go anywhere else, but I guess we need to do something to pass the time. Follow along if you can...
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
2910 500 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
711 500 000 $
21 100 000 $
11 000 000 $
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MIN
  1. Krug, Torey
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
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BOS
    Carolina sends Backes (with 1M salary retained) and their 2019 3rd round pick to Minnesota
    CAR
    1. Backes, David (1 000 000 $ retained)
    2. Brodin, Jonas
    3. Ennis, Tyler
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    TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
    2379 500 000 $78 539 501 $774 000 $4 162 500 $960 499 $
    Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
    6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
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    NMC
    UFA - 7
    6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 4
    6 666 667 $6 666 667 $
    AD
    UFA - 5
    900 000 $900 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
    AG, C, AD
    UFA - 1
    11 500 000 $11 500 000 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 7
    5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 4
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    AD, AG
    UFA - 2
    7 250 000 $7 250 000 $
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    872 500 $872 500 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
    AG, AD
    UFA - 1
    1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
    AG
    UFA - 2
    910 500 $910 500 $
    C, AG
    UFA - 3
    925 000 $925 000 $
    AG, AD
    UFA - 2
    725 000 $725 000 $
    C, AD
    UFA - 1
    650 000 $650 000 $
    AD
    UFA - 1
    Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
    5 000 000 $5 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 750 000 $$2M)
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    NMC
    UFA - 1
    916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
    DD
    UFA - 1
    7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
    DG/DD
    UFA - 2
    789 167 $789 167 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
    1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
    DG
    UFA - 2
    2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
    DD
    UFA - 1
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    G
    UFA - 3
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    27 juin 2018 à 12 h 55
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    MIN says no, also Backes has a NMC so hes staying
    27 juin 2018 à 14 h 13
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    Quoting: Codyymd16
    MIN says no, also Backes has a NMC so hes staying


    I literally said in my description that I can't see Backes waiving his NMC to leave, so nice job offering a useless comment.
    27 juin 2018 à 14 h 59
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    Quoting: Codyymd16
    MIN says no, also Backes has a NMC so hes staying


    Players can waive a NMC? That wouldn't be the reason he stays.
    27 juin 2018 à 18 h 50
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    I think trying to sign a player with a cap-hit like Nino's while also signing JT is a mistake. Even with the 7.75 mil off the books with Chara and McQuaid leaving in 19-20 and potential cap increase that year, it's going to be tight to sign McAvoy, Donato, Carlo, Heinen, plus lower level FA's. Not to mention the need to have room for DeBrusk in 20-21.

    I think the only way JT fits in the cap structure is to trade Krug, like you did, but also find a taker for Krejci's albatross. Moving Krejci would likely mean losing a high end prospect or younger high level roster player (Heinen, Donato, or DeBrusk) in the deal in exchange for Krejci's cap hit.


    Moving Backes may prove difficult without retaining substantial salary, in which case they may wait to for 19-20 for a buy out.
    28 juin 2018 à 8 h 16
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    Quoting: KnifeBoot28
    I think trying to sign a player with a cap-hit like Nino's while also signing JT is a mistake.


    He wasn't a signing, he was included in the trade from Minnesota. I included him in the trade because the value of doing this trade from Minnesota's perspective lies more in clearing money off the books for Zucker and Dumba instead of the assets they get back (although they are getting those too).

    Quoting: KnifeBoot28

    I think the only way JT fits in the cap structure is to trade Krug, like you did, but also find a taker for Krejci's albatross. Moving Krejci would likely mean losing a high end prospect or younger high level roster player (Heinen, Donato, or DeBrusk) in the deal in exchange for Krejci's cap hit.


    That's not really true. Bruins fans have been doing 2019-2020 roster builds for the last few days since the Tavares rumors picked up steam. And while the Bruins may need to buyout Krejci (or perhaps move him) in the 2019 offseason IF they sign Tavares, they certainly don't need to trade him AND Krug this year to make a JT signing work. Please see:

    https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/754305

    And

    https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/757055

    And

    https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/742167

    Moving Backes and Krejci in the 2019 offseason is a much simpler proposition since they will no longer be in possession of full NMCs. However...

    Quoting: KnifeBoot28
    Moving Backes may prove difficult without retaining substantial salary, in which case they may wait to for 19-20 for a buy out.


    They cannot buyout David Backes' contract. The cap hit for a buyout would be virtually identical to the cap hit for his contract, because almost all of the money he's paid comes in the form of a signing bonus. I suspect this was done intentionally to prevent the Bruins from being able to buyout Backes' contract, knowing that it was a very unlikely proposition that he would still be worth the money in year 4 or 5 of the contract (sadly, he wasn't worth the money starting in year 1).

    Also, the trade scenario above has Boston retaining 1M and Carolina retaining 1M of Backes salary before he eventually ends up in Minnesota. I'm not sure how much more of his salary you want retained, but the CBA stipulates no more than 50% of a player's salary can be retained in a trade, and no more than 3 teams can retain a player's salary on their books. I think having 2M of Backes' 6M cap hit retained is more than fair for Minnesota to take him on.
     
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