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Trouba Bye Bye

Créé par: BlackieO
Équipe: 2018-19 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 4 juin 2018
Publié: 4 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
66 000 000 $
87 000 000 $
21 500 000 $
84 750 000 $
21 500 000 $
22 000 000 $
1850 000 $
11 600 000 $
1900 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
33 500 000 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $73 516 666 $0 $4 095 000 $1 483 334 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 6
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C, AD
UFA - 2
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
839 167 $839 167 $ (Bonis de performance200 000 $$200K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 750 000 $4 750 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
G
UFA - 6
900 000 $900 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
850 000 $850 000 $
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4 juin 2018 à 10 h 45
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Islanders would give up anything for this guy
4 juin 2018 à 10 h 49
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I know it's more chancy but the Wings can just hope that Trouba is available as a UFA in two years without giving up a valuable first rounder. Or the Wings spend that 7m on another player and keep their first rounder.
Trouba might be a tough trade as he might not sign long term without a guarantee of going to team that he desires. And if the Wings know that, maybe they don't have to give up as much.
4 juin 2018 à 10 h 58
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Not interested in Mason straight up, may consider as part of a package.
4 juin 2018 à 11 h 35
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We're not trading Trouba. A 1st pairing RHD for a guy who has less points per game than Jack Roslovic, and a 1st round pick that will take 1-3 years to develop. We're trying to win a cup next year. Think about that for a second.
4 juin 2018 à 12 h 4
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Quoting: TheCelt
We're not trading Trouba. A 1st pairing RHD for a guy who has less points per game than Jack Roslovic, and a 1st round pick that will take 1-3 years to develop. We're trying to win a cup next year. Think about that for a second.


I agree but how are you going to get everyone under the cap for next season?....in this scenario that is. Laine / Wheeler / Conner? My signing of Stastny could be deleted I guess. Also, for those thinking that Myers is going to fetch a big return you can forget about that. It seems every Armchair GM believes that he is the guy on his way out. Sorry, but Trouba will be the target to address future cap issues.

However after all that being said Chevy has been a wizard managing the cap. Other than the Little deal he's done pretty good.
4 juin 2018 à 12 h 25
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Quoting: BlackieO
I agree but how are you going to get everyone under the cap for next season?....in this scenario that is. Laine / Wheeler / Conner? My signing of Stastny could be deleted I guess. Also, for those thinking that Myers is going to fetch a big return you can forget about that. It seems every Armchair GM believes that he is the guy on his way out. Sorry, but Trouba will be the target to address future cap issues.

However after all that being said Chevy has been a wizard managing the cap. Other than the Little deal he's done pretty good.


Trade Myers. He's a 3rd pairing Dman on this team right now who makes 5.5 mill. The only people who don't think he won't get a big return are Leafs and Oilers fans, and that's because they don't want to give up their 1st. He's got 36pts in 82 games. The only free agent RHD that did better was Carlsson who will make 7-8mill. He will absolutely get a 1st round pick or an early 2nd, especially if he agrees to an extension. It's ignorant to think otherwise.

Bridge Connor and wait till Buff comes off the books, to sign him to the long term deal. And don't sign Statsny. As much as I love him as a jet, Roslovic showed us that he's more or less the same style as Pauly and his points per game and corsi indicate that he will be an above average 2C next year. I think he plays the kind of game that can mesh well with Laine and Ehlers. He's very responsible defensively and he is very good at making those stretch passes that Ehlers and Laine love. If you reaaaaally want Statsny, you could trade Little before his NMC kicks in on July 1st, but even then, the only reason fans are higher on Stats than Little is because Stats meshes better with Laine.

If you want to reduce cap even further, you can move Kulikov. It will be little to no return but you clear his cap and the UFA market for LHD's is very strong this year. Hickey or De Haan could get signed for 3mill or less for a year while we wait for Samberg to develop.

Finally, we have a ton of assets that you haven't even addressed. Petan, Lemieux, and Dano are all good LW prospects and at least two of them won't ever play for the Jets if Vesalainen develops into what we think he'll be. You can use those guys to move our cap to rebuilding teams like the Islanders, Wild, and Coyotes. Also Samberg just had a monster year at college and the WJC's. He's an LHD, we have Niku who set the record for rookie scoring in the AHL, and Morrissey who will get signed long term. That's 3 good LHD young players and prospects who can make our Left side formidable for the next 10 years. That means Stanley, who is an absolute monster is left outside looking in, meaning we can trade him too to either dump serious amounts of cap or acquire draft capital that we can use in the next 3 years.

We're only in cap trouble if we can't move two of Myers, Kulikov, Little and Perrault (I love him but he can be replaced by Vesalainen), and if you want Statsny we'll have to move 3. But that's not going to be hard at all given the amount of assets Chevy's acquired.
4 juin 2018 à 13 h 25
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Quoting: TheCelt
We're not trading Trouba. A 1st pairing RHD for a guy who has less points per game than Jack Roslovic, and a 1st round pick that will take 1-3 years to develop. We're trying to win a cup next year. Think about that for a second.


I'll agree that good teams/ true contenders should not worry about their upcoming UFAs. Contending teams trade for upcoming UFA at TDL. If the Jets think Trouba is needed for the next two Cup run....just keep him.
But it many upcoming UFAs do not hold as much trading value as fans want and think. Other teams have cap limitations or time lines that doesn't necessarily fit with acquiring such players.
4 juin 2018 à 14 h 8
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Trade Myers. He's a 3rd pairing Dman on this team right now who makes 5.5 mill. The only people who don't think he won't get a big return are Leafs and Oilers fans, and that's because they don't want to give up their 1st. He's got 36pts in 82 games. The only free agent RHD that did better was Carlsson who will make 7-8mill. He will absolutely get a 1st round pick or an early 2nd, especially if he agrees to an extension. It's ignorant to think otherwise.

Bridge Connor and wait till Buff comes off the books, to sign him to the long term deal. And don't sign Statsny. As much as I love him as a jet, Roslovic showed us that he's more or less the same style as Pauly and his points per game and corsi indicate that he will be an above average 2C next year. I think he plays the kind of game that can mesh well with Laine and Ehlers. He's very responsible defensively and he is very good at making those stretch passes that Ehlers and Laine love. If you reaaaaally want Statsny, you could trade Little before his NMC kicks in on July 1st, but even then, the only reason fans are higher on Stats than Little is because Stats meshes better with Laine.

If you want to reduce cap even further, you can move Kulikov. It will be little to no return but you clear his cap and the UFA market for LHD's is very strong this year. Hickey or De Haan could get signed for 3mill or less for a year while we wait for Samberg to develop.

Finally, we have a ton of assets that you haven't even addressed. Petan, Lemieux, and Dano are all good LW prospects and at least two of them won't ever play for the Jets if Vesalainen develops into what we think he'll be. You can use those guys to move our cap to rebuilding teams like the Islanders, Wild, and Coyotes. Also Samberg just had a monster year at college and the WJC's. He's an LHD, we have Niku who set the record for rookie scoring in the AHL, and Morrissey who will get signed long term. That's 3 good LHD young players and prospects who can make our Left side formidable for the next 10 years. That means Stanley, who is an absolute monster is left outside looking in, meaning we can trade him too to either dump serious amounts of cap or acquire draft capital that we can use in the next 3 years.

We're only in cap trouble if we can't move two of Myers, Kulikov, Little and Perrault (I love him but he can be replaced by Vesalainen), and if you want Statsny we'll have to move 3. But that's not going to be hard at all given the amount of assets Chevy's acquired.


We agree to disagree. No matter what happens it's going to be an interesting off season.
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4 juin 2018 à 14 h 15
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Islanders would give up anything for this guy


... wouldn't mind islanders 2 first round pickssmile would use them to trade up or get 2 good prospects drafted close to where trouba was
jets right def lines would then be... just sign myers for a few more years
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