Quoting: Missouri
OMG, just before coming on, I said to myself, "watch with my luck this trade will be "BOG Flagged". I was laughing and then I seen this.
You know, the NHL isn't as serious as this video game. (Yes, its a video game, don't argue) There is a bunch of trades every year in the NHL and I know for a fact that there is no BOG going around flagging pretty well every trade made. Its a video game, who cares if someone makes a bad trade its not the end of the world, as long as both GM's are happy who cares. It would be better to have a trade ratings thread like in V2 and NO BOG flagging. This game restarts every year so if a bad trade is made who cares.
If you want my opinion to make this game better here it is:
1. NO BOG Flagging, let GM's do what they want cause they have faith in what they are doing. Have a trade ratings thread instead then the GM's can still see if they are making the right moves or not.
2. After each month the BOG should review what the GM has done, review there pros and cons. Then decide whether or not it was a winning month or a losing month for that GM. After at least 2 months if the GM has horrible lost them both and hurt his team, then fire him and give another person a chance.
3. Don't be so judgy on people - BOG judges people before they are even given a job, that does make sense in a real life job, but in a video game job. Who cares, give everyone a chance. This is one of the reasons you guys don't have a bunch of people wanting to join this game because it is way to serious, judgy and extremely controlling.
I will be honest it is very offensive and hurtful when BOG is always flagging trades, I love this game because I am making trades and being my own GM, but this game is absolutely no fun when you have the BOG peeking over your back about everything, basically controlling your decisions to make sure "general market values aren't impacted". Who gives a crap about General Market Values, its a damn video game!
Now BOG, I ask that you think about this alot, discuss it.
Sincerely,
Missouri
Well here goes: (P.S. Michael, feel free to stay out of it. I'm in no mood to deal with you tonight)
First of all, we've heard it time and time again about people mad that we review and sometimes revise trades. We get it. There are a select handful of you who think that we do it too much. Well, what if we stop reviewing trades? Guess what happens then? We get people (oftentimes the same people who complain that we review too many), who complain that we should never allow such a terrible trade to pass through.
You make the comparison that this isn't real life, and you're right. But that doesn't mean we're going to allow terrible trades to go through left and right. I should also mention that just because we flagged your and Daryl's trade doesn't mean it will be voted to revise. There is a much, much higher percentage of trades that we vote on that make it through then ones that we vote to revise, which I think a lot of you don't realize. We also should've been a lot stricter at the beginning of V3 to set a good precedent because a lot of dumpster fire trades made it through at the beginning.
Just because both GM's are happy with a trade doesn't make it less of a dumpster fire, might I add. For example, before you were the GM of the Panthers, the previous GM *acquired* Brent Seabrook, not to mention gave up *real value* to acquire him. Trades like that have no place here and we refuse to allow things like that happening because it sets a bad example.
As for your three suggestions: First of all, there will always be BOG flagging whether you and others like it or not. No amount of complaining about trade reviews will change our mindsets on that. We will not allow for our Game to turn into the Expansion or Discord game with the awful, awful trades that are allowed to happen over there. We hold our game to some level of realism. You say this isn't real-life, but we try to keep it as real as possible for a game that isn't real. Just because a GM feels that they know what they're doing, doesn't mean they actually do. The amount of trades we saw happen that were just so bad during V1 and V2 and nothing was done was absurd. So, long story short, trade flagging isn't going anywhere.
I'd also like to mention as I stated before just because a trade is flagged by no means is it assured to be reversed please keep that in mind. 6 out of our 7 BOG members need to feel that it was completely unfair and needs to be fixed.
Your second point has some decent points, as I personally partially like the idea of reviewing GM's after a certain period of time. But it's not like we're out here firing people left and right. If you'll notice, the only people who leave the game are either fired because they've made continuously bad trades or they've left under their own accord. I for one don't exactly feel as though it would be worth reviewing people every month or two because the group we have here is solid and most of the time any GM's that make terrible trades aren't here for long. Mostly everyone here has been a mainstay for quite a while and if they've lasted this long, there's not much chance we have at firing them. The biggest problems we have are with newer GMs making mistakes which brings me to your last point.
I think it's pretty clear that if we just hired anybody that wanted to be a GM we'd have problems. Numerous times we've made new hires and had to fire them 2 or 3 trades into their tenure because they were just that bad. Now, don't get me wrong, we've had people prove us wrong before but the rate at which new GMs arrive and stick around is quite slim because they just have no idea what fair value or good trades are. We like to make sure the people that we hire are qualified and that we can ensure they aren't fleeced the moment they get into the game. Sometimes, guys slip by us that end up being not-so-great. That's bound to happen. But we're going to take the best measures that we can to make sure our new GMs are good fits to be apart of our league.
I'm sorry you happen to feel offended and hurt if we review trades, but this is probably the first instance where I've had that kind of reaction to trade reviews. If you feel that way, all I can do is apologize. But that's not going to stop us from flagging trades. We have yet to have a single good reason for us to scrap trade reversals. All we've had are people who either fleece and are upset about not being able to keep their fleeces.
Thanks for understanding,
The BOG