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Oilers 18/19 - realistic trades, massive improvements

Créé par: SamySeif
Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 17 mai 2018
Publié: 17 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
In making this team I am trying to find realistic options for the oilers to improve their skill position yet also maintaining draft picks to rebuild a "depleted farm system." Carolina is a mess and seem to be on the verge of a fire sale, Dallas might not be able to afford Janmark long term and might look at an alternative in strome due to lineup flexibility. Detroit and AA seem to be at a crossroad, had a hard time negotiating a contract last year, maybe more of the same happens in the coming years. Let me know your guys thoughts, am I underselling the players from other teams here (I'm not sure how other fan bases feel about these players.) Cheers!
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
74 300 000 $
21 250 000 $
1950 000 $
32 850 000 $
31 850 000 $
42 500 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
32 250 000 $
Transactions
1.
EDM
    rights to Elias Lindholm
    CAR
    1. Kassian, Zack
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
    2.
    EDM
    1. Faulk, Justin
    Détails additionnels:
    2018 second round pick - #42
    CAR
    1. Sekera, Andrej
    Détails additionnels:
    2018 first round pick - #10
    - not a fan of trading the first rounder but seems very possible, hopefully the oilers are able to gain picks of some sort in return to continue to rebuild the farm
    - ($300 000 retained for equal salary)
    3.
    EDM
      rights to Andreas Athanasiou
      DET
      1. Safin, Ostap
      Détails additionnels:
      2018 second round pick (either one from carolina or dallas from prior deals)
      4.
      EDM
        matias janmark
        2018 2nd round pick - #44
        DAL
          ryan strome
          2018 2nd round pick - #40
          Rachats de contrats
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          2019
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          2020
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          2021
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          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
          2280 000 000 $76 796 165 $0 $2 500 000 $3 203 835 $
          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
          6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 3
          12 500 000 $12 500 000 $
          C
          UFA - 8
          2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 3
          5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
          AG, AD
          NMC
          UFA - 5
          8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
          C, AG
          UFA - 7
          2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
          C, AD
          UFA - 6
          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 1
          925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
          AD
          UFA - 1
          950 000 $950 000 $
          AG, AD
          UFA - 2
          675 000 $675 000 $
          AG, C
          UFA - 1
          800 000 $800 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          650 000 $650 000 $
          AD, AG
          UFA - 1
          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
          4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 5
          4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
          DD
          UFA - 3
          4 166 666 $4 166 666 $
          G
          M-NTC
          UFA - 1
          4 300 000 $4 300 000 $
          DG
          UFA - 2
          4 150 000 $4 150 000 $
          DD
          M-NTC
          UFA - 2
          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
          G
          NMC
          UFA - 1
          4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
          DG/DD
          NMC
          UFA - 3
          1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
          DD
          UFA - 2
          1 062 500 $1 062 500 $
          G
          UFA - 1

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          17 mai 2018 à 14 h 32
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          Carolina says no Lindholm is worth more than a 4th liner and a second.
          Dallas trade does not make sense, not sure how a 1st can be pick #40 when there are 31 teams. I would think just a straight sway Strome for Janmark would be even if Dallas wanted to do that.
          Carolina might like that trade but cant see them wanting to take on Sekera for free basically. As you are trading the 1st for Faulk and then throwing in Sekera so they would probably need more.
          Not sure who Safin is so I cannot say much about the AA trade but think he will get at least 3 mil from someone in an offer sheet maybe, Janmark and Lindholm will get paid more as well.
          17 mai 2018 à 14 h 34
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          Carolina says no to both
          17 mai 2018 à 14 h 55
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          I’m a canes fan. I’m not against giving up Faulk but you need more then that. Sekera doesn’t want to go back to Carolina and Carolina don’t want seekers back. As for the Lindholm trade. You need more as well. A fourth liner and a second for a Fifth overall pick isn’t fair value. Lindholm can be an elite player some games. Others he goes missing but when he’s own he’s unstoppable. IMO Carolina says no to both. Just one guys opinion though. Well thought out and the pieces you want would be available.
          17 mai 2018 à 15 h 2
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          Quoting: Caniac2000
          I’m a canes fan. I’m not against giving up Faulk but you need more then that. Sekera doesn’t want to go back to Carolina and Carolina don’t want seekers back. As for the Lindholm trade. You need more as well. A fourth liner and a second for a Fifth overall pick isn’t fair value. Lindholm can be an elite player some games. Others he goes missing but when he’s own he’s unstoppable. IMO Carolina says no to both. Just one guys opinion though. Well thought out and the pieces you want would be available.


          Thank you for the feedback. I figure Edmonton would probably have to give up a little more but tossing in a first round pick might be enough, possible a younger man in Caleb Jones as well. Oilers imo need to be able to recoup picks in this deal as well. I agree Lindholm has value but based on the comments from Tom Dundon, he seems content on his team looking for more "grit".. trust me as an Oilers fan that shouldn't mean a sacrifice of skill. If you substitute Victor Rask instead of Lindholm is that more reasonable?
          17 mai 2018 à 15 h 9
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          Quoting: nikeBauer4411
          Carolina says no Lindholm is worth more than a 4th liner and a second.
          Dallas trade does not make sense, not sure how a 1st can be pick #40 when there are 31 teams. I would think just a straight sway Strome for Janmark would be even if Dallas wanted to do that.
          Carolina might like that trade but cant see them wanting to take on Sekera for free basically. As you are trading the 1st for Faulk and then throwing in Sekera so they would probably need more.
          Not sure who Safin is so I cannot say much about the AA trade but think he will get at least 3 mil from someone in an offer sheet maybe, Janmark and Lindholm will get paid more as well.


          Thank you for your feedback, and I corrected that mistake, I meant the second round (pick 40), just forgot to change the initial part, it's corrected. IMO faulk based on his underlying numbers is not good 5 on 5, you are essentially trading for a number 4-5 dman that has offensive upside (has only produced over 40 points once in his career.. Yes he has a great shot, but he is not good defensively and that alone doesn't make him worth a top 10 pick if there is no salary retained the other direction.
          Fair point on Lindholm, I understand Carolina under Tom Dundon appears to be looking to get "tougher", so i figure they are looking for kassian type players, Lindholm is probably overshooting things, but is Victor Rask available?

          I agree that someone will probably offer AA an offer sheet and Detroit is kind of hooped against the cap if I am not mistaken.. Hopefully that team is Edmonton.
          17 mai 2018 à 15 h 11
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          Thank you for the feedback. I figure Edmonton would probably have to give up a little more but tossing in a first round pick might be enough, possible a younger man in Caleb Jones as well. Oilers imo need to be able to recoup picks in this deal as well. I agree Lindholm has value but based on the comments from Tom Dundon, he seems content on his team looking for more "grit".. trust me as an Oilers fan that shouldn't mean a sacrifice of skill. If you substitute Victor Rask instead of Lindholm is that more reasonable?


          Rask isn't as skilled as Lindholm for a start and Lindholm is more versatile. Lindholm can play any attacking position. Rask is skilled enough to be a 2C but with rask's grit and ability and will to win the pucks back in the corners or to lay a guy out, I don't think dundon would want to move him unless they were getting a deal that was robbing the other. So theoretically this trade could happen because Peter Chirelli is a mad man. For value it differs. Lindholm is much more valuable. I could only see Rask getting moved out if you are paying for Lindholm if that makes sense
          17 mai 2018 à 15 h 17
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          Quoting: Caniac2000
          Rask isn't as skilled as Lindholm for a start and Lindholm is more versatile. Lindholm can play any attacking position. Rask is skilled enough to be a 2C but with rask's grit and ability and will to win the pucks back in the corners or to lay a guy out, I don't think dundon would want to move him unless they were getting a deal that was robbing the other. So theoretically this trade could happen because Peter Chirelli is a mad man. For value it differs. Lindholm is much more valuable. I could only see Rask getting moved out if you are paying for Lindholm if that makes sense


          Ah that does make sense. So what you are saying is we can expect a massive Chiarelli overpayment in the near future if a deal was to happen, buckle up. If there was a player from Carolina most likely to be traded aside from Faulk, who do you figure that might be? Skinner?
          17 mai 2018 à 18 h 30
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          Ah that does make sense. So what you are saying is we can expect a massive Chiarelli overpayment in the near future if a deal was to happen, buckle up. If there was a player from Carolina most likely to be traded aside from Faulk, who do you figure that might be? Skinner?


          Skinner seems to be the odd one out after winning the draft lottery. Faulk Skinner and Rask are the three that had poor seasons last year but the first two have proven themselves to be better then that years prior. Slavin and Pesce might as well be joined at the hip. They are going nowhere. Hanifin isn't moving. I can't see Bean or Fleury or TvR moving. Any goaltender you want except Nedeljokovic is available. #aho Tuevo and Staal stay. Necas Zykov and the second overall pick if thats Zadina or Svechnikov, isn't moving. Williams has a NTC. But so does Skinner. McGinn and Lindholm I don't see getting moved. Maybe they move Derek Ryan at the draft. Lee Stempniak as well. Other then that I think the roster will be the same next season. Idk how they make Skinner fit but they could get a lot for him or they could make this one HELL of a team

          For Edmonton I could see them trying to aquire Rowland Mckeown or Justin Faulk. Both good RHD and both very talented offensviely but Mckeown is better in his own end than Faulk. In any case if edmonton make a trade with Carolina, I'd expect a D-man going to Edmonton and Al Montoya coming back the other way
           
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