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Which Team do you think will have the best offseason?

4 juill. 2018 à 0 h 48
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After spending $24M on Jay Beagle and Antoine Roussel alone, it’s safe to say the Vancouver Canucks were, once again, the clear winners of the offseason

I mean, really. I thought they couldn’t outdo last year’s $20.5M on Gagner + MDZ + Nilsson, and of course, the previous seasons beloved $36M on Loui Eriksson
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4 juill. 2018 à 0 h 50
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After spending $24M on Jay Beagle and Antoine Roussel alone, it’s safe to say the Vancouver Canucks were, once again, the clear winners of the offseason

I mean, really. I thought they couldn’t outdo last year’s $20.5M on Gagner + MDZ + Nilsson, and of course, the previous seasons beloved $36M on Loui Eriksson


Lol wait until Montreal signs Bouwmeester for 6 years 10 Million a year. “Bouwmeester is future”
4 juill. 2018 à 1 h 46
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My offseason winners (A- or better grade)
Washington Capitals (A)
Toronto Maple Leafs (A)
Philadelphia Flyers (A)
Carolina Hurricanes (A)
St. Louis Blues (A-)

Losers (D- or worse)
New York Islanders (F)
Ottawa Senators (F)
Vancouver Canucks (F)
Chicago Blackhawks (D-)
Anaheim Ducks (D-)
4 juill. 2018 à 1 h 58
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My offseason winners (A- or better grade)
Washington Capitals (A)
Toronto Maple Leafs (A)
Philadelphia Flyers (A)
Carolina Hurricanes (A)
St. Louis Blues (A-)

Losers (D- or worse)
New York Islanders (F)
Ottawa Senators (F)
Vancouver Canucks (F)
Chicago Blackhawks (D-)
Anaheim Ducks (D-)


Blues did better than Toronto yes they brought in Tavares but lost JVR Blues didn’t lose anyone really that valuable besides hutts.
4 juill. 2018 à 7 h 6
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Blues did better than Toronto yes they brought in Tavares but lost JVR Blues didn’t lose anyone really that valuable besides hutts.


Besides Tavares being a vastly superior player, I don't view JVR as much of a loss. The Leafs have exceptional depth at wing.
10 juill. 2018 à 0 h 18
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@HawksFan28 Anything new to report here? This team is going to be a legitimate Cup contender, right?


It's July 9th.... A bit premature to judge ANY TEAM yet? lol

I cant wait until you're wrong.

Few teams have made many moves at all - the Karlsson situation is holding up a lot of movement for ALL teams.
10 juill. 2018 à 0 h 43
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Quoting: tadhockey
My offseason winners (A- or better grade)
Washington Capitals (A)
Toronto Maple Leafs (A)
Philadelphia Flyers (A)
Carolina Hurricanes (A)
St. Louis Blues (A-)

Losers (D- or worse)
New York Islanders (F)
Ottawa Senators (F)
Vancouver Canucks (F)
Chicago Blackhawks (D-)
Anaheim Ducks (D-)


I wouldn't give the Islanders an F ... sure, they were one of the losers of the offseason but i'd give them better than that ... they lost JT but they got Barry Trotz, and Lou Lamoriello, as well as Lehner and today they got Jan Kovar.
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10 juill. 2018 à 0 h 47
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I wouldn't give the Islanders an F ... sure, they were one of the losers of the offseason but i'd give them better than that ... they lost JT but they got Barry Trotz, and Lou Lamoriello, as well as Lehner and today they got Jan Kovar.


They got the coaching. Now it’s time for an exciting rebuild with the amazing draft they had. So no not a F but nothing higher than a C.
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10 juill. 2018 à 1 h 58
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Quoting: HawksFan28
It's July 9th.... A bit premature to judge ANY TEAM yet? lol

I cant wait until you're wrong.

Few teams have made many moves at all - the Karlsson situation is holding up a lot of movement for ALL teams.


Dude. The Central Division only got better with the Blues adding big time with ROR, Perron and Bozak. Plus the Hawks used all that cap space on Brandon Manning, Cam Ward and Chris Kunitz. Where’s the top line winger or both top four defenseman they needed?
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12 déc. 2018 à 15 h 4
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Well, I think Stan Bowman and the Blackhawks will have a "busy" offseason......Bowman has cap space burning a hole in his pocket and a couple of players that really have no role on this team any longer (Anisimov for sure)..

So I expect some new faces in the fall and a completely revamped 2018-19 Blackhawks team ready to contend once again for the Cup.


Quoting: HawksFan28
Dude, they won the Western Conference in 2016-17, and yea - they got swept - SO WHAT - it happens.

Yea, Bowman didn't have the cap space last summer to make the changes he would have liked to have made, but guess what? the moves he made last summer got the Hawks out of cap hell - now they have 20 million to spend and get the guys that WILL INDEED make the Hawks a contender in 18-19...

The Hawks have the core players it takes to be a contender and win a Cup, however this season the Hawks didn't have the supporting cast to contend because Bowman had no cap space so the Hawks were stuck playing rookies 19 of them to be exact.......

Besides, the Hawks were a playoff team until Crawford went down in December, and from there it was all down hill - Hawks used 7 goalies this season.

The Hawks problems aren't "major" and the Hawks aren't slipping into the abyss of NHL mediocrity........ This UFA class has everything the Hawks need to be contenders next season....... Yes, this past season sucked for the Hawks, however they got an 8th overall pick and in this deep draft they're guaranteed a stud, lets not forget the Hawks already have 2 young studs already in Schmaltz and DeBrincat...

Look, the Hawks have the foundation to be a Cup contender next season - they just need to add the right players and they will be there..... Bowman knows what he's doing - he's rebuilt the Hawks over and over again on the fly and every time he rebuilt the Hawks they were contenders again....

I don't know how many times I have heard "oh the Hawks are done"....... lol.... You can believe that all you like but you would be wrong....

I've been watching hockey for 35 years and if I felt the Hawks were actually done and it was time for a rebuild I would agree with you and say it but the truth is that this core has another 5 years left in them (minus Seabrook, because he's slowing down) but I'm sure the Hawks will nab Dobson or Bouchard at the draft and by the time Seabrook is done one of those kids will be primed to take over......

If the core transition goes smoothly over the next 5-6 years or so and the Hawks continue to draft the right players the Blackhawks will be contenders for a very long time..


Quoting: HawksFan28
Dude, first off Schmaltz is a stud - a legitimate #2 ceneter, and second - the Blackhawks have 20 million in cap space.

The Hawks have lots of options to drastically improve this team.

There were a few reasons why the Hawks failed last season. The Hawks played 20 rookies last season, that's a lot - why did they play 20 rookies? because Bowman didn't have the cap space to improve this team via free agency, so he was stuck picking through the UFA bargain bin. Also, Corey Crawford got vertigo in December and up until then the Hawks were a playoff team, not only that but the team as a whole had a down year (it happens) but the biggest reason why the Hawks had a lousy season was mainly because they were stuck playing rookies - especially on defense... The only defenseman the Hawks had that played more than 50 NHL games were Keith, Seabrook and Murphy - that's not good..... Not to mention in goal Forsberg & Bureube had almost no NHL experience at all and the same can be said for the bottom 6......Wingels, Sharp and Bouma (who was eventually sent down to the AHL mid-season) were the only bottom 6 guys with any significant NHL experience - the rest of the bottom 6 were basically rookies.

With 20 million in cap space the Hawks can go out and get the vets they need to fill out the team..... Lets not forget the Hawks also have trade bait to bring in some assets as well....... Anisimov is no longer needed, I'm sure the 27th overall pick is in play for the right player and Crawford could be traded as well (or potentially go on LTIR).... I don't know what's going on with him really...

The Hawks have all the important core players they need to be a contender next season, in Toews, Kane, Keith, Saad, DeBrincat, Schmaltz and Seabrook (if he can regain form)....... All the Hawks really need is a legitimate #2 LW (Wahlstrom, Kovalchuk, TVR etc) to play with Schmaltz and Kane, a couple of legitimate veteran defensive/two-way specialists (Wingels, Bozak, Vermette etc) that can win draws in the bottom 6 and 1 top 4 defenseman (J. Faulk) and a veteran #5 defenseman (John Moore)........ And depending on the goaltending situation and Crawfords health a legitimate veteran backup (Hutton, Ward etc)..... And the Hawks will be fine.

The Hawks are nowhere near Detroit status, the Hawks run isn't even close to up yet - sure it's getting narrower but the Hawks have maybe 5 years left..

Look, if the Hawks were done I would admit it and think about the best rebuild possible - but they're not close to rebuilding yet...

The Hawks downfall last season was 80% cap related and 20% the fact that the core didn't have anyone to play with that knew the system because the were ROOKIES....

Yes, I am aware many hockey fans hate the Hawks and they would love to see the Hawks window closed and locked - but that just isn't the reality of the situation. Wishful thinking is not fact or reality....... I've been a hockey fan for 35 years since I was about 3-4 so I have seen plenty of contenders come and go so I know what a team looks like when it's time to rebuild and this Blackhawks team just isn't one of them....... The salary cap finally made it difficult for the Hawks to build a competitive team last season, and a lot of people questioned the trades Bowman made (but really didn't need to make last summer) but Bowman made those moves for a reason - so the Hawks wouldn't be in "cap hell" ever again or at least not in the near future and guess what? it worked - the Blackhawks now have 20 million in cap space to get the players they want - not the players they can afford...... Besides this past season of sucking got the Hawks the 8th overall pick in one of the deepest drafts in nearly 40 years so..... And I think the Hawks could draft a guy like Wahlstrom who could step right into the NHL considering Wahlstrom played on a line on the USDP program with a Patrick Kane clone named Jack Hughes (who will be taken 1st overall next draft).....SO...... The Hawks have a lot of options to make improvements this summer and they certainly will and I fully expect the Blackhawks to be a contender next season - there is zero doubt in my mind there, just as long as they address the obvious issues that plagued them all last season...

Sorry, but this is a cap era and very good teams can take a temporary step back due to cap constraints but then turn around a season later and be a contender like nothing happened...

The Blackhawks will be fine.


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12 déc. 2018 à 16 h 49
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The hawks predictions in here are getting absolutely demolished lol. Hey, once they have Hughes next year, THEN they’ll be a contender right?
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12 déc. 2018 à 21 h 7
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Surprisingly it's the Sabres would have improved the most. One trade Skinner, one draft pick Dahlin, and goalie Hutton And Houlsey as a coach
The Carolina trade has helped the Flames, and despite iffy goaltending at times...are in a playoff spot.
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12 déc. 2018 à 21 h 52
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Don't mind me, just getting a seat for the show.

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13 déc. 2018 à 12 h 22
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Don't mind me, just getting a seat for the show.

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*Ahem* The winner is Buffalo... *ducks for cover*
19 déc. 2018 à 0 h 1
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Contend for the Cup? They just missed the playoffs by a long shot, got swept the year before and didn’t make it out of the first round the year before that. They have massive holes on defense and in the forward group. Not sure where they’re going to find they defensemen they need as well as the secondary scoring



Thats what Mitchell, Jokiharju, Boqvist, Beaudin and Krys are for guy. No team has a better collection of D prospects than the Hawks they will be fine in a season or two when they break in to the league.
19 déc. 2018 à 3 h 20
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Quoting: HawksFan28
The Hawks are contending for the Cup next season go read my above post..


*****EDIT, just saw this post was made in May, here’s my take for next offseason though******
1- Land either Hughes or Kappo
2- young D make a legitimate impact next season
3- sign Panarin
4- GM finally makes some better roaster moves filling out the depth of his bottom 6

Yes then they absolutely could contend for a cup.
Lmao people are so quick to count the hawks up due to recent bias of struggling. People thought San Jose’s window was closed but look at 2016 and their team now. If hawks play their cards right (and have some luck) they could absolutely contend next year.

Saad-toews-debrincat
Panarin-strome- Kane

Plus potentially Hughes or Kappo is a very strong Top 6

Keith- Jokiharju
Good free agent/trade - Boquist

Has potential to be a very solid top 4 as well depending on the development of their young guys.

Not saying they’re GONNA contend again, but definitely not saying they “can’t” contend either. This offseason/draft is CRUCIAL to the success of the franchise imo
19 déc. 2018 à 3 h 21
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My offseason winners (A- or better grade)
Washington Capitals (A)
Toronto Maple Leafs (A)
Philadelphia Flyers (A)
Carolina Hurricanes (A)
St. Louis Blues (A-)

Losers (D- or worse)
New York Islanders (F)
Ottawa Senators (F)
Vancouver Canucks (F)
Chicago Blackhawks (D-)
Anaheim Ducks (D-)


Pittsburgh: F

Traded a good depth scorer in sheary to erase the hunwick signing, then signed an even WORSE player in Johnson to a worse contract. JEEZE

All could’ve been avoided if they signed dehaan instead
19 déc. 2018 à 3 h 24
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