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Créé par: ItWasIn
Équipe: 2018-19 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 1 mai 2018
Publié: 1 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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RFAANSCAP HIT
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UFAANSCAP HIT
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CGY
  1. Demers, Jason
Détails additionnels:
5th overall pick in the 2018 NHL draft

CGY selects Oliver Wahlstrom. In 88 games in USDP/USHL he had 139 points this season.

As he is committed to Harvard he is at least one season away from being an NHLer. I don't wanna move Hamilton, but it's necessary if you wanna pick in the top 5. ARI almost acquired Hamilton from BOS in 2015 but that deal fell through at the last minute. Demers is sent to CGY as ARI will have OEL, Hamilton, Goligoski, Chychrun, Hjalmarsson already on the back end, I don't think they wanna pay Demers that much to play 3rd pair minute
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CGY
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
Détails additionnels:
2018 2nd round pick
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1 mai 2018 à 12 h 17
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I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 29
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I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.


I think the issue with Demers was his NTC as he vetoed a trade to VAN and Florida wanted to get rid of him. Probably an overpayment though you are right, but maybe TOR is desperate enough for a serviceable too 4 D that won’t cost them a Nylander
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 31
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I like the Hamilton trade. Its interesting idea to say the least.

The Demers valuation is way off though. He's not worth that much from T.O. Not even close. Guy was traded for Jamie McGinn this past season.


Kapanen has scored 8 NHL goals and 2 NHL assists in the 3 years and 11 months since being drafted. Demers isn't being traded for Matthews here.
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 32
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Hamilton is not worth 5th overall , az cuts you out and sends demers to Toronto ,
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 33
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Kapanen has scored 8 NHL goals and 2 NHL assists in the 3 years and 11 months since being drafted. Demers isn't being traded for Matthews here.


Yeah but many can see this kid is stuck behind depth. Give him opportunity and he could surprise. He was very good in the playoffs.
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 35
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Yeah but many can see this kid is stuck behind depth. Give him opportunity and he could surprise. He was very good in the playoffs.


1 goal, 0 assists in 7 games.

guys like connor brown are nice players, but the way leafs fans talk about kapanen, if he cant beat him out...
1 mai 2018 à 12 h 43
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U overvalue Demers...
1 mai 2018 à 13 h 12
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
1 goal, 0 assists in 7 games.

guys like connor brown are nice players, but the way leafs fans talk about kapanen, if he cant beat him out...


Oh right. Cuz goals and assists are the only way to know if a player is good or not....... laugh Matthews has what 3 points? Stupid 4th liner i guess....

Nah man I have no allegiance to the leafs. I'm a Habs fan but i also try to be as non biased as possible. Kapanen was way better than I expected. Not top line player like Nylander or anything but potentially a good top 6/9.
1 mai 2018 à 13 h 14
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U overvalue Demers...


Based off what? Demers hasn't exactly killed it or anything. Guy was shipped out by Florida for Jamie McGinn. I don't think anyone is undervaluing anyone. Demers is your average top 4. nothing special. What sets him apart is he is a RHD which are harder to come by.
1 mai 2018 à 13 h 55
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Oh right. Cuz goals and assists are the only way to know if a player is good or not....... laugh Matthews has what 3 points? Stupid 4th liner i guess....

Nah man I have no allegiance to the leafs. I'm a Habs fan but i also try to be as non biased as possible. Kapanen was way better than I expected. Not top line player like Nylander or anything but potentially a good top 6/9.


Again, I'm speaking about this trade.

The Flames ship a good 2nd paring RHD AND 2nd round pick to the leafs, for a guy who has 10 points in 3 years and 11 months since being drafted.

You said thats not enough, I say Kapanen has proven nothing and is one of the worst performing 1st rounders of his draft class and is on the verge of being a bust
1 mai 2018 à 14 h 28
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Again, I'm speaking about this trade.

The Flames ship a good 2nd paring RHD AND 2nd round pick to the leafs, for a guy who has 10 points in 3 years and 11 months since being drafted.

You said thats not enough, I say Kapanen has proven nothing and is one of the worst performing 1st rounders of his draft class and is on the verge of being a bust


Again? Im talking about this trade too. The one where Demers is traded for Kapanen and a 2nd rounder!

I think you misinterpreted the trade. Its:

Kapanen
2nd round pick 2018 SJ
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Demers

Look at Demers's track record. Traded for Mcginn. Traded for Dillon. We're not talking about a game breaker here. For 4.5M a year your getting a guy that is barely top 4.

Losing 4.5M in cap and getting a 21 year old with potential on a ELC that has played very well in the limited time he has been given AND a 2nd rounder?

Im not sure how you're justifying this here?
1 mai 2018 à 14 h 58
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Quoting: Originalfan
Hamilton is not worth 5th overall , az cuts you out and sends demers to Toronto ,


A 24 year old top pairing 40 or even 50+ point Dman is not worth the 5th overall pick?

You people that over rate draft picks make my head hurt.

He's worth 5th overall and more. He's an actual star NHL player just heading into his prime, and not a ****ing magic bean. You realize that right?
1 mai 2018 à 15 h 9
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Based off what? Demers hasn't exactly killed it or anything. Guy was shipped out by Florida for Jamie McGinn. I don't think anyone is undervaluing anyone. Demers is your average top 4. nothing special. What sets him apart is he is a RHD which are harder to come by.

I said OVERVALUE!! Read before u react, bro!
1 mai 2018 à 16 h 35
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I said OVERVALUE!! Read before u react, bro!


Yup misread undervalue. Chill.
 
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