Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
I don't like this deal very much. It's one of those "All-in" type deals. You can't afford to give away a fringe 2nd line RW + 1st + top 4 d prospect for a rental if we lose in the first couple of rounds. If Nash is really good then it won't be terrible, but I just don't understand why Sweeney took this type of risk on this year. Grabner only cost a 2nd + marginal prospect and I would have been looking at Maroon from EDM.
Bruins acquired a top 6 winger, which was a need, and didn't give up any of their big-time prospects to do so. I'm not sure why this is viewed as an "all-in" move? All he did was add to a contender this season. That's why he "took on the risk". Every team takes on a risk when making a trade to try and win the Cup. You can afford to give that stuff away when:
1.) You've made 6 first round picks over the last 3 drafts (2015 x3, 2016 x2, 2017 x1).
2.) You replace that 'fringe 2nd line RW" with an actual top 6 RW.
3.) The LHD prospect you traded wasn't one of the big three you currently hold. Zboril/Lauzon/Vaakanainen all ahead of him, and when you have Krug locked up and Grzelcyk showing he's an NHL ready defenseman, he's even farther down the depth chart. Lindgren probably doesn't go professional for another 2 years. Bruins could easily find another defensive prospect in that time.
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This isn't very good value at all compared to the other deals Sweeney has completed. I don't know if Chiarelli is refusing to make a deal with Boston because he was fired here, but I think Sweeney should have atleast taken Grabner from NYR given the price differential. I'd rather have Grabner for a 2nd + Cedric Pare or someone like that than Nash for Spooner + Lindgren + 2018 1st. Getting rid of Beleskey at 50% isn't a big enough value to be worth the 1st or Lindgren, so this is kind of a head scratcher to me.
You seem to ignore the fact that it takes two to tango, and it's not as simple as "Sweeney should have at least taken Grabner from the NYR". To start, Pare isn't even close to being as equally valued as Rykov. Pare, if he's lucky, will make the NHL as a 4th liner. Rykov has top 4-6 upside. Also, the Rangers probably have scouted Rykov seeing their star goalie prospect, Igor Shestyorkin, plays on the same team. Also, there's a potential that the Devils 2nd is higher than the Bruins 2nd. There's much more that goes into it. Someone like Pare isn't getting you in the conversation either because he's not a prospect that holds any value in a trade.
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I'm expecting a big post season now. If we hadn't made a deal like this and went on to lose in the 2nd round it wouldn't have bothered me much, but now that we're giving up futures it changes the equation. If we make it to the conference finals I won't be too down on this deal, but anything worse than that would be pretty terrible.
You weren't expecting a big post season before the trade? Bruins have plenty of 'futures' even after this trade. Fans need to get out of this mindset that you need to hold onto everyone. The Bruins made a trade for NHL talent and still have a strong prospect pool. This is an overreaction level comment.