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....VS much needed aggressive dealing

Créé par: MajesticWalrus
Équipe: 2017-18 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 16 févr. 2018
Publié: 16 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
What I would do.
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Kapanen, Kasperi
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
2.
VAN
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
3.
VAN
  1. Aston-Reese, Zach
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
4.
VAN
  1. Nosek, Tomas
Détails additionnels:
Pending UFA for a cap dump (can be put on IR if Vegas ever needs the space)
5.
VAN
  1. Bowey, Madison
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (FLA)
WSH
  1. Del Zotto, Michael (1 500 000 $ retained)
6.
VAN
  1. Heiskanen, Miro
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (DAL)
DAL
  1. Edler, Alexander (2 000 000 $ retained)
7.
VAN
  1. Petan, Nicolas
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
Petan would be in his hometown, he's on the trading block, jets get a legit centre.
8.
VAN
  1. Wedgewood, Scott
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (ARI)
Détails additionnels:
Pending UFA, yotes still need a goalie, both goalies get a change of scenery.
9.
VAN
  1. Gudlevskis, Kristers
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
Détails additionnels:
Pending UFA, NY needs a goalie.
10.
VAN
  1. Dell, Aaron
Détails additionnels:
UFA this summer, Dell would be close to his hometown, he's on the trading block too.
SJS
  1. Bachman, Richard
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2075 000 000 $48 418 333 $0 $1 912 500 $26 581 667 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
C
UFA - 6
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AG
NMC
UFA - 1
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 1
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, AD
NMC
UFA - 5
900 000 $900 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
AG
UFA - 2
750 000 $750 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
687 500 $687 500 $
AG
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
625 000 $625 000 $
G
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
G
UFA - 1
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
765 000 $765 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
D
UFA - 1

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16 févr. 2018 à 13 h 38
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Modifié 16 févr. 2018 à 13 h 50
The year after, we'd use some of those guys in the trades and/ or use juolevi, pettersson, demko, lind, dahlen, gaudette, chatfield, holm, goldobin, boucher, pouliot... And/ or whoever we pick up in the 2018 draft especially with all those picks we'd have after this. And we'd also easily and happily outbid anyone for guys like Carlson or Tavares. .....aaaahhhh... Perfect world. as for the lower limit cap issue, this is a 20 man roster so a few guys would need to be called up anyway and the dorsett deal can always be done later too.
16 févr. 2018 à 16 h 25
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As you go down the list the deals get more reasonable. I have to air on the side of most of these would never happen, here's why:

1. Gudbranson, a bottom pairing Dman is not going to fetch a top prospect AND a 3rd round pick, at this point the Canucks will be happy if they just get a 3rd rounder for him.
2. Hutton is entering his prime but not worth a budding prospect and 1st rounder in Juulsen and a 5th rounder, as much as I like Hutton, that's serious over payment by the Habs. He'll probably return a 2nd tops.
3. If salary wasn't a thing this might work. Pens are looking for a 3rd line center which Gagner could fill, but they are only $750k away from the cap and Gagner is $3.45M.
4. Could work, but I don't get this trade for VGK, they don't gain anything by taking on Dorsett's contract.
5. Del Zotto is simply not worth 2 2nd round picks.
5. Edler has a full NMC so that's a non-starter, but even if he did there's no way Dallas is trading their #3 overall pick for a guy who would play 2nd pairing minutes on their team.
6. I actually like this trade for both teams. The Jets have the cap space too to make it work.
7. I like this trade for the Canucks, but I don't know if the Coyotes would like to have a 1A-1B with Raanta and Markstrom
8. Could work, but I don't think NYI sees Nilsson as an upgrade over what they have now.
9. The Canucks would have to sweeten the deal a lot of get Dell from SJ. If Jones got injured and they only had Bachman as their backup they'd be completely screwed haha.
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16 févr. 2018 à 19 h 31
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As you go down the list the deals get more reasonable. I have to air on the side of most of these would never happen, here's why:

1. Gudbranson, a bottom pairing Dman is not going to fetch a top prospect AND a 3rd round pick, at this point the Canucks will be happy if they just get a 3rd rounder for him.
2. Hutton is entering his prime but not worth a budding prospect and 1st rounder in Juulsen and a 5th rounder, as much as I like Hutton, that's serious over payment by the Habs. He'll probably return a 2nd tops.
3. If salary wasn't a thing this might work. Pens are looking for a 3rd line center which Gagner could fill, but they are only $750k away from the cap and Gagner is $3.45M.
4. Could work, but I don't get this trade for VGK, they don't gain anything by taking on Dorsett's contract.
5. Del Zotto is simply not worth 2 2nd round picks.
5. Edler has a full NMC so that's a non-starter, but even if he did there's no way Dallas is trading their #3 overall pick for a guy who would play 2nd pairing minutes on their team.
6. I actually like this trade for both teams. The Jets have the cap space too to make it work.
7. I like this trade for the Canucks, but I don't know if the Coyotes would like to have a 1A-1B with Raanta and Markstrom
8. Could work, but I don't think NYI sees Nilsson as an upgrade over what they have now.
9. The Canucks would have to sweeten the deal a lot of get Dell from SJ. If Jones got injured and they only had Bachman as their backup they'd be completely screwed haha.


I kind of agree. But let's be honest as hockey fans, we've all seen deals that seemed questionable to us before. Plus defence is the most valuable position right now, defense, centre, winger, goalie... In that order. So that's why the first few deals may seem less reasonable compared to when you go down the list. If I was the GM though I would try and get the most of these players but at the end of the day would want to see them gone even if it is just a second for Hutton for example. As for the goalie things, do you think Bachman for gudlevskis and nilsson for dell instead, I though of it later and I think it's maybe better especially since you basically agree.
17 févr. 2018 à 14 h 32
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I kind of agree. But let's be honest as hockey fans, we've all seen deals that seemed questionable to us before. Plus defence is the most valuable position right now, defense, centre, winger, goalie... In that order. So that's why the first few deals may seem less reasonable compared to when you go down the list. If I was the GM though I would try and get the most of these players but at the end of the day would want to see them gone even if it is just a second for Hutton for example. As for the goalie things, do you think Bachman for gudlevskis and nilsson for dell instead, I though of it later and I think it's maybe better especially since you basically agree.


I think Bachman for Gudlevskis would make much more sense as well as Nlsson for Dell as those are much closer to lateral moves for the organizations involved. In year's past, I agree with you that there has been a premium on Dmen, but this year with Johnson asking for a trade and McDonagh looking like he is open, the amount of quality D available is driving the price down for B-level players like Hutton IMO.
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