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GM Game 17/18

Créé par: ricochetii
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 18 janv. 2018
Publié: 21 janv. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Petry: Available once his contract rolls over to M-NTC.
Byron: Taking offers.
Looking for at least a 2nd this year and good prospect for either.

Cap hit adjusted due to Plekanec's retention irl:
Cap hit: $70,827,917 Remaining: $4,172,083

Main roster set, with the following exceptions:
None

----- On The Block -----
Lernout
Fucale
Jerabek


----- AHL -----
Kevin Roy - Ang - Senyshyn
Chapie - Eisenschmid - Bastian
Addison - Gregoire - Terry
Gabriel Bourque - Holland - Waked
Repo - Mitchell - Froese

Jerabek - Santini
Simon Bourque - Juulsen
Parisi - Lernout
Taormina - Redmond

Fucale - McNiven - Sateri

----- OTHER -----
F: Naatinen Cates Vejdemo Ikonen Trunev Friberg
D: Koberstein Staum Henrikson Tyszka Fleury Brook
G: Hawkey
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Redmond, Zach
Détails additionnels:
Reversing IRL trade Oct 4th
2.
MTL
  1. Martinsen, Andreas
Détails additionnels:
Reversing IRL trade Oct 4th
3.
MTL
  1. Mitchell, Torrey
Détails additionnels:
Reversing IRL trade Nov 23rd
LAK
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (LAK)
4.
MTL
  1. Holland, Peter
Détails additionnels:
Reversing IRL trade Nov 30th
5.
MTL
  1. Montoya, Al
Détails additionnels:
Reversing IRL trade Jan 4th
EDM
  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (EDM)
6.
MTL
  1. Tanev, Brandon
Détails additionnels:
September 19th
WPG
    Brandon Davidson
    7.
    MTL
    1. Hartnell, Scott
    2. Johansen, Ryan
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
    Détails additionnels:
    September 22nd
    NSH
    1. Hudon, Charles
    2. Lindgren, Charlie
    3. Pacioretty, Max
    4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
    8.
    MTL
    1. Williams, Justin (2 000 000 $ retained)
    Détails additionnels:
    September 22nd
    CAR
    1. McCarron, Michael
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (CHI)
    9.
    MTL
    1. Staal, Eric
    Détails additionnels:
    September 23rd
    MIN
    1. Gallagher, Brendan
    Détails additionnels:
    3-way with NYR
    JT Miller -> MIN
    Gallagher -> NYR
    Staal -> MTL
    10.
    MTL
    1. Fowler, Cam
    2. Kase, Ondrej
    3. Roy, Kevin
    4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
    Détails additionnels:
    October 8th
    ANA
    1. Galchenyuk, Alex
    2. Scherbak, Nikita
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
    Détails additionnels:
    Mark Streit
    11.
    MTL
    1. Fortin, Alexandre
    2. Saad, Brandon
    Détails additionnels:
    October 16th
    CHI
    1. Alzner, Karl
    2. De La Rose, Jacob
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
    12.
    MTL
    1. Barberio, Mark
    2. Bourque, Gabriel
    Détails additionnels:
    November 4th
    13.
    MTL
    1. Ang, Jonathan
    Détails additionnels:
    Leddy
    Baertschi
    Bastian
    5th (TOR - 2019)
    14.
    MTL
    1. Leddy, Nick
    Détails additionnels:
    Via Florida above
    NYI
    15.
    MTL
    1. Baertschi, Sven
    Détails additionnels:
    Via Florida above
    VAN
    16.
    MTL
    1. Bastian, Nathan
    Détails additionnels:
    Via Florida above
    NJD
    17.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
    Détails additionnels:
    Via Florida above

    December 1st
    TOR
    18.
    MTL
    1. Prince, Shane
    Détails additionnels:
    Waiver claim
    NYI
    19.
    MTL
    1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
    Détails additionnels:
    December 20th
    BOS
      Cayden Primeau
      20.
      MTL
      1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
      2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
      Détails additionnels:
      Noah Cates

      December 21st
      PHI
        Jake Evans
        21.
        MTL
        1. Senyshyn, Zach
        Détails additionnels:
        January 4th
        BOS
          Poehling
          Bitten
          22.
          MTL
            PK Subban
            Winnik
            FLA
            1. Carr, Daniel
            2. Weber, Shea
            3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (MTL)
            Détails additionnels:
            3-way with Nashville
            23.
            MTL
            1. Subban, P.K.
            Détails additionnels:
            Via Florida above
            NSH
            24.
            MTL
            1. Winnik, Daniel
            Détails additionnels:
            Via Florida above

            January 7th
            MIN
            25.
            MTL
              Linus Ohlund Rights
              Antti Niemi
              PIT
              1. Montoya, Al (531 250 $ retained)
              26.
              MTL
                Reversing IRL waiver claim
                27.
                MTL
                  Santini
                  5th (STL 2018)

                  January 25th
                  VAN
                  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (WSH)
                  28.
                  MTL
                  1. Santini, Steven
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Via Vancouver
                  NJD
                  29.
                  MTL
                  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (STL)
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Via Vancouver
                  STL
                  30.
                  MTL
                  1. Chapie, Adam
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Pavelski ($3M previously retained by SJS)
                  31.
                  MTL
                  1. Pavelski, Joe (3 000 000 $ retained)
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Via NYR
                  SJS
                  32.
                  MTL
                  1. Shore, Nick
                  2. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (LAK)
                  Détails additionnels:
                  February 1st
                  33.
                  ANA
                  1. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Alexandre Fortin
                  34.
                  MTL
                    Part of Vermette trade
                    35.
                    MTL
                    1. Repo, Sebastian
                    2. Säteri, Harri
                    Détails additionnels:
                    Beauchemin
                    7th (DET - 2019)
                    FLA
                    1. Martinsen, Andreas
                    2. Morrow, Joe
                    3. Choix de 5e ronde en 2018 (STL)
                    4. Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
                    Détails additionnels:
                    Pezzetta
                    36.
                    MTL
                    1. Beauchemin, Francois
                    Détails additionnels:
                    Via Florida
                    ANA
                    37.
                    MTL
                    1. Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (DET)
                    Détails additionnels:
                    Via Florida

                    February 10th
                    DET
                    38.
                    MTL
                      Victor Rask
                      NYR
                      1. Danault, Phillip
                      Détails additionnels:
                      Conditional 3rd (below)

                      March 17th
                      39.
                      MTL
                      1. Rask, Victor
                      Détails additionnels:
                      via NYR
                      CAR
                      40.
                      MTL
                        *NYR receives Montreal's 3rd round pick in 2019 if Danault misses 4 of the first 12 games of the 18/19 season due to concussion or concussion-like symptoms.
                        NYR
                        1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
                        Détails additionnels:
                        Conditional
                        41.
                        MTL
                        1. Gionta, Brian
                        Détails additionnels:
                        Signed as a free agent via waivers
                        BOS
                          (Not a trade)
                          Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
                          Enfoui
                          Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
                          2018
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de NSH
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de BOS
                          Logo de MTL
                          2019
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de PHI
                          Logo de LAK
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de DET
                          2020
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          Logo de MTL
                          TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                          2275 000 000 $62 077 917 $0 $1 000 000 $12 922 083 $
                          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 6
                          4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                          C, AD
                          UFA - 8
                          3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
                          AD
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          670 000 $670 000 $
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                          C
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
                          AD
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 2
                          1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 2
                          2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
                          C
                          UFA - 5
                          700 000 $700 000 $ (Bonis de performance300 000 $$300K)
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          1 750 000 $1 750 000 $
                          C, AG
                          M-NTC
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          700 000 $700 000 $
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 1
                          660 000 $660 000 $
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                          4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                          DG/DD
                          UFA - 1
                          9 000 000 $9 000 000 $
                          DD
                          UFA - 5
                          6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
                          G
                          NMC
                          UFA - 1
                          2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
                          DG
                          UFA - 5
                          5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                          DD
                          NMC
                          UFA - 4
                          700 000 $700 000 $
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          1 000 000 $1 000 000 $ (Bonis de performance700 000 $$700K)
                          DG
                          UFA - 1
                          1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
                          DG/DD
                          UFA - 2
                          750 000 $750 000 $
                          DG
                          UFA - 1
                          Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
                          1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
                          AG
                          UFA - 1
                          850 000 $850 000 $
                          AG
                          UFA - 1

                          Exclus de la formation

                          Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          759 166 $759 166 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 4
                          863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
                          AD
                          UFA - 3
                          642 500 $642 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          RFA - 1
                          720 000 $720 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AG
                          RFA - 3
                          633 333 $633 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 1
                          728 333 $728 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD
                          UFA - 4
                          750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD, AG
                          UFA - 1
                          675 000 $675 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 2
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AG, AD
                          UFA - 1
                          740 000 $740 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C, AD
                          UFA - 3
                          726 667 $726 667 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD
                          UFA - 3
                          800 000 $800 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          AD
                          UFA - 1
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          C
                          UFA - 2
                          1 200 000 $1 200 000 $ (175 000 $$175K175 000 $$175K)
                          C, AD
                          UFA - 1
                          Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                          750 000 $750 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DG
                          UFA - 1
                          925 000 $925 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1
                          714 167 $714 167 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
                          G
                          UFA - 1
                          720 000 $720 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DG
                          RFA - 3
                          863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DD
                          UFA - 3
                          682 222 $682 222 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance55 000 $$55K)
                          G
                          UFA - 3
                          717 500 $717 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance157 500 $$158K)
                          D
                          UFA - 1
                          653 333 $653 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (Bonis de performance257 500 $$258K)
                          DD
                          UFA - 2
                          650 000 $650 000 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DG
                          UFA - 2
                          612 500 $612 500 $ (0 $$00 $$0)
                          DD
                          UFA - 1

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                          21 janv. 2018 à 18 h 52
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                          Alex Iafallo for that 2018 2nd maybe?
                          21 janv. 2018 à 18 h 58
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                          Looks like you could use a stronger 4th line center. What do you think of Matt Stajan? We might be able to retain on him.

                          What do you think of Eric Fehr, Joel Ward, Marcus Sorenson, Jannik Hansen or Micheal Grabner as some additional winger depth?
                          21 janv. 2018 à 19 h 44
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                          Quoting: Icegirl
                          Alex Iafallo for that 2018 2nd maybe?


                          Interesting idea, but not at this time. Iafallo is a longer term investment. I'm more interested in immediate impact and will hold onto my picks to see what my options are after I do some other minor shuffling.

                          Quoting: Missouri
                          Looks like you could use a stronger 4th line center. What do you think of Matt Stajan? We might be able to retain on him.

                          What do you think of Eric Fehr, Joel Ward, Marcus Sorenson, Jannik Hansen or Micheal Grabner as some additional winger depth?


                          Grabner interests me, but I think the price is higher than I'm willing to pay. I probably wouldn't do more than a 2nd and Hartnell being included. If that's in range let me know.
                          21 janv. 2018 à 21 h 47
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                          What would your asking price be on Sven Baertschi?
                          21 janv. 2018 à 22 h 16
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                          Quoting: ricochetii
                          Interesting idea, but not at this time. Iafallo is a longer term investment. I'm more interested in immediate impact and will hold onto my picks to see what my options are after I do some other minor shuffling.



                          Grabner interests me, but I think the price is higher than I'm willing to pay. I probably wouldn't do more than a 2nd and Hartnell being included. If that's in range let me know.


                          Eh, not really. He's been a solid playmaker; moreover, if he wasn't cursed, he could be on pace for 41 points.
                          21 janv. 2018 à 22 h 30
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                          Quoting: TonyStrecher
                          What would your asking price be on Sven Baertschi?


                          I don't see a fit right now. Unless an opportunity to upgrade comes along I'm going to hang onto him. The guys I might consider are younger and won't help me compete this season. Maybe at the draft if you're still interested.
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                          Oh, and speaking of Baertschi, could I add to Iafallo to get him?
                          21 janv. 2018 à 23 h 28
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                          who would u give for Ryan Murray and or Atkinson
                          21 janv. 2018 à 23 h 34
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                          Anthony Duclair??
                          22 janv. 2018 à 0 h 25
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                          Quoting: Icegirl
                          Oh, and speaking of Baertschi, could I add to Iafallo to get him?


                          Buchnevich is the type of player I'd want in order to move him now. Anything beyond 1 for 1 will probably be an off season consideration.

                          Quoting: Rodzikhockey93
                          who would u give for Ryan Murray and or Atkinson


                          I don't really have the room or enough interest in either player at this time.

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                          Anthony Duclair??


                          I'm assuming that had nothing to do with Miller / Schlemko. Why are you just posting a random player name? laugh
                          22 janv. 2018 à 0 h 58
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                          Quoting: ricochetii
                          I'm assuming that had nothing to do with Miller / Schlemko. Why are you just posting a random player name? laugh


                          oh right, you wanted Miller. Sorry, too many teams and names in my head.

                          You had mentioned Miller + Fiore.
                          Would you be willing to swap out Schlemko and insert Benn + Kevin Roy +the 2019 5th (ANA)
                          I think that too would balance out the salary exchanges
                          22 janv. 2018 à 2 h 4
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                          Quoting: flamesfan419
                          oh right, you wanted Miller. Sorry, too many teams and names in my head.

                          You had mentioned Miller + Fiore.
                          Would you be willing to swap out Schlemko and insert Benn + Kevin Roy +the 2019 5th (ANA)
                          I think that too would balance out the salary exchanges


                          I'm going to reason this out, to make sure we both understand the values involved.

                          Miller's a luxury I can't afford without moving Schlemko, so if you don't want Schlemko, there's not really a deal to be made.
                          Benn I need for a playoff run, because I can trust him on either side. Wouldn't consider moving him for a 3rd goalie or a prospect.
                          Your proposal adds $1M in cap as well. I'd be better off with a $1M dollar goaltender and spending that money elsewhere.

                          You offered Miller for two 7ths (to Chicago) and Fiore is an undrafted prospect.
                          I think you undervalued Miller. I'd give you the value of a 5th because the goalie market is weak, as I'm guessing you've noticed. I could get someone less expensive for a lower pick and just run with Niemi as my backup. He's been more or less league average since joining Montreal.

                          Undrafted prospects are harder to put a value on. Fiore is considered to be fast, but otherwise pretty unrefined. He's back in the Q after only dressing for 1 NHL games, so he still has work to do.

                          I'll knock the price on Schlemko down to a 5th. That's even with what I would offer for Miller, and a trade I'm willing to make at this point in time.
                          Roy is worth more than Fiore. I'd be willing to trade Roy, but you'd have to add some value.

                          I'd be fine with giving you the 5th for Fiore. Maybe you can get a prospect you like better with that pick, or would rather move his contract to make room for someone else. I don't know the details of your situation, so that's your call. I don't know what you value him at, and maybe you'd prefer to keep him. I'd be willing to add Hartnell to free up a roster spot or Mitchell to shave some cap space.

                          So what that all boils down to is:
                          Schlemko for Miller
                          or
                          Schlemko + 5th (ANA - 2019) + one of Hartnell or Mitchell for Miller + Fiore
                          or
                          Schlemko + Roy for Miller + Fiore + ???
                          22 janv. 2018 à 11 h 1
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                          I know the door is closed on the Eller deal for now but when one door closes, another one opens, so with that being said, would you be willing to move Cale Fleury and also what would you want from me for Fucale?
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                          Grabner interests me, but I think the price is higher than I'm willing to pay. I probably wouldn't do more than a 2nd and Hartnell being included. If that's in range let me know.

                          Matt and I are going to consider your offer for Grabner.
                          22 janv. 2018 à 15 h 6
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                          Quoting: TabooPenguo
                          I know the door is closed on the Eller deal for now but when one door closes, another one opens, so with that being said, would you be willing to move Cale Fleury and also what would you want from me for Fucale?


                          I'm keeping Fleury. Ward is a possibility for Fucale, but he'd be among my last considerations for a 3rd goaltender and I likely wouldn't be able to take his full salary, so maybe later.
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                          Quoting: Missouri
                          Grabner interests me, but I think the price is higher than I'm willing to pay. I probably wouldn't do more than a 2nd and Hartnell being included. If that's in range let me know.

                          Matt and I are going to consider your offer for Grabner.


                          Sounds good. Let me know. smile
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                          22 janv. 2018 à 23 h 13
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                          Quoting: ricochetii
                          I'm going to reason this out, to make sure we both understand the values involved.

                          Miller's a luxury I can't afford without moving Schlemko, so if you don't want Schlemko, there's not really a deal to be made.
                          Benn I need for a playoff run, because I can trust him on either side. Wouldn't consider moving him for a 3rd goalie or a prospect.
                          Your proposal adds $1M in cap as well. I'd be better off with a $1M dollar goaltender and spending that money elsewhere.

                          You offered Miller for two 7ths (to Chicago) and Fiore is an undrafted prospect.
                          I think you undervalued Miller. I'd give you the value of a 5th because the goalie market is weak, as I'm guessing you've noticed. I could get someone less expensive for a lower pick and just run with Niemi as my backup. He's been more or less league average since joining Montreal.

                          Undrafted prospects are harder to put a value on. Fiore is considered to be fast, but otherwise pretty unrefined. He's back in the Q after only dressing for 1 NHL games, so he still has work to do.

                          I'll knock the price on Schlemko down to a 5th. That's even with what I would offer for Miller, and a trade I'm willing to make at this point in time.
                          Roy is worth more than Fiore. I'd be willing to trade Roy, but you'd have to add some value.

                          I'd be fine with giving you the 5th for Fiore. Maybe you can get a prospect you like better with that pick, or would rather move his contract to make room for someone else. I don't know the details of your situation, so that's your call. I don't know what you value him at, and maybe you'd prefer to keep him. I'd be willing to add Hartnell to free up a roster spot or Mitchell to shave some cap space.

                          So what that all boils down to is:
                          Schlemko for Miller
                          or
                          Schlemko + 5th (ANA - 2019) + one of Hartnell or Mitchell for Miller + Fiore
                          or
                          Schlemko + Roy for Miller + Fiore + ???


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                          No rush, just wanted to make sure this was seen.
                          Hit me back when you're ready and have an answer.
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                          @flamesfan419

                          No rush, just wanted to make sure this was seen.
                          Hit me back when you're ready and have an answer.


                          Hey. Thank you for taking the time to write out a very good explanation above.
                          I have a few things on the go so I can't give a definitive answer right now.
                          If other things don't work out and this is still an option on your end I'll see if you'd still want to deal.

                          Again, thank you for the clarity.
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                          Hey. Thank you for taking the time to write out a very good explanation above.
                          I have a few things on the go so I can't give a definitive answer right now.
                          If other things don't work out and this is still an option on your end I'll see if you'd still want to deal.

                          Again, thank you for the clarity.


                          K. I only have 1 trade left this month, so I won't wait. If I end up using that trade we can talk next week.
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                          K. I only have 1 trade left this month, so I won't wait. If I end up using that trade we can talk next week.


                          hahaha I only have 1 trade left this month too. So looks like we'll both be choosing wisely on where we use it.
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                          Sounds good. Let me know. smile

                          Just as a heads up, we’ve elected to take a different offer for Grabner. Thank you for the offer though.
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                          Just as a heads up, we’ve elected to take a different offer for Grabner. Thank you for the offer though.


                          Price out of my range?
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                          Price out of my range?

                          Pretty much, got a recent 1st round pick prospect, tried to aim for higher quality, less quantity in this deal.
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                          Pretty much, got a recent 1st round pick prospect, tried to aim for higher quality, less quantity in this deal.


                          Yup. That'd do it. Thanks anyway. smile
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                          Weal for Hartnell+ something small interest you? Not sure what type of bottom 6 forward you are looking for.
                           
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