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Deadline + draft day trades Pacioretty gone and so galchenyuk

Créé par: darknngel
Date de création initiale: jan 11, 2018
Publié: 12 jan 2018 à 6 h 25
Équipe: 2017-18 Canadiens de Montréal
Explications
I Luv galchenyuk and i know he will explode... but bergevin sign him 3 years n then UFA he wont sign when hes gonna be ufa we cant wait since he goes, we have to trade him before ufa.
Transactions
MTL
  1. Tierney, Chris
  2. O'Regan, Danny
  3. 2018 1e round pick (SJS)
  4. 2020 2e round pick (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
r2 cond if pacioretty re-sign in SJS.
SJS
  1. Pacioretty, Max
MTL
  1. Connor, Kyle
  2. Petan, Nicolas
  3. 2018 2e round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Galchenyuk, Alex
MTL
  1. Kylington, Oliver
  2. Lazar, Curtis
  3. 2018 3e round pick (CGY)
CGY
  1. Shaw, Andrew
  2. De La Rose, Jacob
MTL
  1. Hagelin, Carl
  2. Dea, Jean-Sébastien
  3. 2018 1e round pick (PIT)
  4. 2018 5e round pick (PIT)
Détails additionnels:
1st because we take hagelin with 1 year left next year 4M .
PIT
  1. Plekanec, Tomas
  2. Carr, Daniel
Détails additionnels:
50% cap retain 3M Plekanec.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
  • Max Pacioretty: 450 000 $ (10%)
  • Marco Scandella: 2 000 000 $ (50%)
  • Tomas Plekanec: 3 000 000 $ (50%)
ANNÉE DE REPÊCHAGERONDE 1RONDE 2RONDE 3RONDE 4RONDE 5RONDE 6RONDE 7
2018
MTL
SJS
PIT
MTL
CHI
WSH
WPG
MTL
CGY
EDM
LAK
MTL
PIT
2019
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
2020
MTL
MTL
SJS
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS BONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2275 000 000 $47 993 749 $0 $1 032 500 $27 006 251 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Connor, Kyle
925 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
O'Regan, Danny
858 750 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
Drouin, Jonathan
5 500 000 $
AG
UFA - 6
Hudon, Charles
650 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Danault, Phillip
912 500 $
C
UFA - 1
Gallagher, Brendan
3 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 4
Lehkonen, Artturi
839 166 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
Tierney, Chris
735 000 $
C
RFA - 1
Byron, Paul
1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Deslauriers, Nicolas
775 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Petan, Nicolas
758 333 $
AG, AD, C
RFA - 1
Lazar, Curtis
950 000 $
C, AD
RFA - 2
Hagelin, Carl
1 875 000 $
AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Mete, Victor
748 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 3
Petry, Jeff
5 500 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Price, Carey
6 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Alzner, Karl
4 625 000 $
DG
NTC
UFA - 5
Benn, Jordie
1 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
Niemi, Antti
700 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Jeřábek, Jakub
925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Schlemko, David
2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Morrow, Joe
650 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Weber, Shea
7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 9
Hemsky, Ales
1 000 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Addison, Jeremiah
720 000 $
AG
RFA - 3

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12 jan 2018 à 6 h 58
#1
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We don’t want Plekenac for a 1st. “but muh we are taking hagelin’s contact hxhsjjs”
12 jan 2018 à 6 h 59
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Lafreniere
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forgot to rate
12 jan 2018 à 7 h 32
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That is an incredible overpay for Pacioretty. A few good young players, a first, a second, and potentially another second for a guy with 23 points is very extreme. He’s not worth anything more than a first and a decent young player at this point, and even that’s questionable.
12 jan 2018 à 8 h 52
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Quoting: linehan10
That is an incredible overpay for Pacioretty. A few good young players, a first, a second, and potentially another second for a guy with 23 points is very extreme. He’s not worth anything more than a first and a decent young player at this point, and even that’s questionable.


Do your homework. Pacioretty is 4th or 5th in goal scoring over the past 5 years? Half a season doesn't ruin his value. Everyone knows he will break out once he has a defenseman that can get him the puck.
12 jan 2018 à 10 h 24
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Quoting: RobbStark03
Do your homework. Pacioretty is 4th or 5th in goal scoring over the past 5 years? Half a season doesn't ruin his value. Everyone knows he will break out once he has a defenseman that can get him the puck.


History alone doesn’t justify a trade. Just because a player has been good in the past (and to his credit, Pacioretty has been very good), that does not even in the slightest justify throwing a kings ransom at that player. Tierney is a young player that is doing pretty well this year. O’Regan is one of the Sharks’ top prospects. Then we’re throwing in a first, a second, and potentially another second? That’s a very poor evaluation, even if you’re banking on Pacioretty to find his old self, which is just not a risk any rational NHL GM would take, especially for that package.
12 jan 2018 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: linehan10
History alone doesn’t justify a trade. Just because a player has been good in the past (and to his credit, Pacioretty has been very good), that does not even in the slightest justify throwing a kings ransom at that player. Tierney is a young player that is doing pretty well this year. O’Regan is one of the Sharks’ top prospects. Then we’re throwing in a first, a second, and potentially another second? That’s a very poor evaluation, even if you’re banking on Pacioretty to find his old self, which is just not a risk any rational NHL GM would take, especially for that package.


I would sooner judge Pacioretty's last 5 years than his previous 4 months to judge his value. I understand you disagree, but I know Bergevin doesn't. So it would take an "overpayment" to get this done. None of those pieces are even what we are targeting in a return. so its not happening from Montreal's perspective.
14 jan 2018 à 2 h 31
#7
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just want to precise to Linehan10 that its NOT 2 2nd round pick.. the 2nd round 2020 is conditionnal it's only A 1st, Tierney O'Regan and if pacioretty re-sign there it was a 2nd in 2020. i dont see it at an overpayment im not even sure it would appeal our gm but didnt want to look to greedy. And Shaffer Pens Without Hagelin next year it give you 4M more to spend elsewhere and i had carr to the equation.. Dea is not an NHler he's not even a top AHL guy Carr can become a top 9 maybe even more in Pittsburgh ... and he's cheap. so to not having Hagelin 4M caps this n next year, having another spot free without Dea, Getting deeper in the middler and stronger in term of defensively and maybe even offensively because what you had in middle.. and getting carr in the equation who i think could thrive in Pit playing LW or RW anywhere in line up for a 1st ands a 5th i didnt think it was too much.. except if the fact is the player and not the price pay for it. IF you keep Hagelin dea and we dont add Carr, prob a 2nd + another picks would have been my call.. but cap salarial wouldnt have fitt for youyr team.
 
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