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I want Carolina's First Round Pick

Créé par: HawksFan28
Équipe: 2018-19 Blackhawks de Chicago
Date de création initiale: 8 mars 2018
Publié: 8 mars 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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UFA - 5
Description
I think the title is self explanatory... I want that #9-14 pick. Why? because I want Joe Veleno. Chicago is the perfect environment for Veleno, and I believe it will be only here in Chicago that Veleno can reach max potential, and shed his "exceptional status bust" image.

Here in Chicago he will have the opportunity to learn from one of the best 2-way centers of the 2010's in Toews, and will be managed by one of the best coaches in NHL history in Quenneville - coach that loves the very style that Veleno plays...

Why does Carolina do this deal? because the only real asset they're giving up is that #9-14 pick.. Kruger is a cap dump, TvR is a RFA and nothing special. So it's basically Anisimov, pick #25 & pick #70 for pick #9-14 (Veleno).....

I can't possibly see how ANYONE could question that trade - it's MORE than fair for Carolina.

As for the rest of the team - it's DEEP with both young and veteran talent - a very, very good mixture of both......

Yes, I put numerous options on #2 LW with an average of 5 per - but it could be a bit more.

Yes, I know it's over cap but the roster is 27 players so obviously not ALL would be included...I put Veleno & Boqvist on the roster to merely demonstrate who the Hawks would take with their picks at the draft if I was responsible for making the picks... Of course they would have an opportunity to make the roster out of camp but like I said it was merely to showcase who I would pick.

Also, I'm trying to point out that putting a legitimate and deep roster together under the cap IS NOT AN ISSUE for Bowman if he plays his cards right..... The Hawks ARE NOT in cap hell as can be clearly seen below ... I believe my salaries are "in the ballpark" on these players - I think if averaged out collectively I would be spot on with the UFA's.

Alright, now flame me and tell me how Ron Francis would have to be absolutely INSANE to do that deal because you know ......"muh hawks hate".
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RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
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Veleno, Joe
3925 000 $
Sikura, Dylan
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1900 000 $
Kovalchuk, Neal, Perron, Ilya, James, David
15 000 000 $
Boqvist, Adam
3925 000 $
Transactions
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  1. Krüger, Marcus (1 500 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Trevor van Riemsdyk.
2018 Carolina First Round Pick (#12)
CAR
  1. Anisimov, Artem
Détails additionnels:
2018 First Round Pick (#27) Nashville
2018 Third Round Pick (#75) Chicago
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2882 000 000 $75 299 295 $1 232 500 $982 500 $6 700 705 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
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UFA - 5
778 333 $778 333 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Kovalchuk, Neal, Perron, Ilya, James, David
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD, C
UFA - 1
2 625 000 $2 625 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 5
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG
UFA
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Sikura, Dylan
925 000 $925 000 $
1 275 000 $1 275 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA
925 000 $925 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Veleno, Joe
925 000 $925 000 $
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 538 462 $5 538 462 $
DG
NMC
UFA - 5
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
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M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
3 850 000 $3 850 000 $
DD
UFA - 4
6 875 000 $6 875 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 6
750 000 $750 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Boqvist, Adam
925 000 $925 000 $
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
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UFA - 2
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UFA - 3

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8 mars 2018 à 13 h 14
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The deal may be fair in terms of value, but it doesnt help the Canes at all. We already have three #2-3 centers and Anisimov is no different. This doesnt make the Canes better at all and we lose a better prospect (assuming Valeno) and extremely reliable/versatile #4-5 D in TVR. Im not saying the trade isn't fair but it's not the type of deal the Canes are going to make.
8 mars 2018 à 13 h 33
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The deal may be fair in terms of value, but it doesnt help the Canes at all. We already have three #2-3 centers and Anisimov is no different. This doesnt make the Canes better at all and we lose a better prospect (assuming Valeno) and extremely reliable/versatile #4-5 D in TVR. Im not saying the trade isn't fair but it's not the type of deal the Canes are going to make.


You have Staal and Rask, and Anisimov can give either one of them a run for their money.... Anisimov is supremely talented, and the only reason why I advocate trading him is because his talents and skill-set doesn't mesh in well with the Hawks core..... Think of it this way - cake is good, pizza is good - now would you mix the two? no, because they just don't mesh well and that's a good analogy here for Anisimov in Chicago.

So I would really have to disagree here - this is a sweetheart deal, one of those deals you cant pass up.

Besides, If I were Bowman I would go out and get what the Canes would "want" for TvR, Kruger and that pick.

Also, It's not like the trade makes or breaks that roster..... I just want Joe Veleno because I believe he would reach max potential here in Chicago and could be the steal of the draft because of that...

I mean the Hawks will be drafting somewhere around there too, but I want to have my cake and eat it and have BOTH Veleno AND Boqvist in the process (smile - because Veleno, Boqvist, Jokiharju, Schmaltz, DeBrincat would be a really nice core for the Hawks moving forward...
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8 mars 2018 à 13 h 33
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Quoting: Rcsherwo
The deal may be fair in terms of value, but it doesnt help the Canes at all. We already have three #2-3 centers and Anisimov is no different. This doesnt make the Canes better at all and we lose a better prospect (assuming Valeno) and extremely reliable/versatile #4-5 D in TVR. Im not saying the trade isn't fair but it's not the type of deal the Canes are going to make.


I don't think the deal is fair for Carolina, TVR isn't necessarily a throw in, and AA has seen his production drop with Kane. Moving that many places for a 2C isn't really a great move.
8 mars 2018 à 13 h 45
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I don't think the deal is fair for Carolina, TVR isn't necessarily a throw in, and AA has seen his production drop with Kane. Moving that many places for a 2C isn't really a great move.


TBH, it's not like this deal makes or breaks getting Veleno, Kruger or TvR..... TvR is a RFA - the Hawks could offer-sheet him for up to 3 per and only have to give up a 3rd in compensation. Kruger can be had for a bag of pucks and Veleno is slotted to go right around where the Hawks are picking so...... I bet Francis would trade Kruger & TVR to the Hawks for a 2nd or 3rd round pick......

Honestly it would be nice to walk away from this draft with a couple of the top 12 prospects.... Outside of the top 5 I love Adam Boqvist & Joe Veleno....

My point is it's not like getting these guys are impossible.... We're not talking Karlsson here.
8 mars 2018 à 14 h 4
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Francis wouldn't like this deal but he has no say. He is no longer the gm, and whoever the new one will be must report directly to Tom Dundon. So you have TD to worry about instead
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